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[quote]Envision wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
Anabolic_Mike wrote:
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep.

Oh yeah, real smart. Then the media would have said that the steroids made him suicidal.

I mean, isn’t that the reason why Benoit killed his family and himself?

Oh and Taylor Hooton, a high school baseball player that was also on steroids when he committed suicide, I mean, it couldnt have been the antidepressants he was taking…

Benoit’s was attributed to multiple years of compounded brain damage which was also linked to a few NFL players going wacko.[/quote]

Wait, what front page of what newspaper was that info given?

If the answer is, “it wasn’t on the front page and no one even discussed it on Nancy Grace for an hour”, then it doesn’t matter what the truth is. The general public will ALWAYS relate what happened to steroids just like Lyle Alzedo.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
But…when I originally posted that question, it seemed to me that some of the posters felt that it was unfair that women could take estrogen to prevent pregnancy but men could not take test to gain muscle. And to me, that just seemed like a silly comparison. I mean, I like big strong men as much as the next girl (ok probably a little more) but I don’t think that is exactly the most logical comparison. (If we were talking about the pill simply for bigger boobs, or steroids for AIDS patients, maybe).

Neither the pill, nor AAS are the problem. It’s irresponsible people and a narrow minded society.

Whether the intended benefit is preventing pregnancy, or increased muscle size/strength, hormone therapy is a choice. Women are encouraged to use hormonal manipulation - men are incarcerated. So yes - it is unfair in my opinion.

Drug companies have advertised for years that the pill will help regulate the menstrual cycle, if not cut it down to only a week a year. At that point hormonal manipulation stops being birth control, and becomes something else. I am at a loss as to what it should be called, but “performance enhancer” doesn’t sound right.

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Hormone therapy is a choice, the choice between having a child and not having a child. It is not the equivalent of big muscles and bigger muscles. Just because they are both choices, doesn’t make them the same regardless of motivation.

I don’t agree with girls of 11 or 12 taking the pill, and I wouldn’t agree with boys of that age taking steroids…obviously.

It sucks that some are suffering consequences of ass backwards laws around here, but I honestly think these two things are completely unrelated. You have a right to be angry at the system, you are entitled to what you say, but comparing this to pregnancy prevention, citing all sorts of bogus secondary purpose, is just plain wrong. Barking up the wrong tree of ‘equality’.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

It’s evident that the pill helps with mood enhancement too.

I shan’t be a-thinkin ye be a-teasin any cocks today, sweetheart.

You’ve got to remember that in discussions like these, speaking in generalities is the norm. There will always be exceptions. Now get your wool panties unwedged out of your cunt crack and relax.[/quote]

Lol…

I shan’t be a-carin about ye boners anytime, cumquat…

I understand generalities, but I’m pretty sure there are many women like myself who haven’t sacrificed sex drive to the pill. I think everybody should stop demonizing the pill and look to the heart of this situation.

All this finger pointing is just sad. They are both hormones, the reasons for use are totally different. Nobody in law will equate steroid use with the pill, yes they are both choices, … NO those choices are not of equal value to this world they would argue. Anybody with a brain would argue your muscle development and a prevented unwanted pregnancy are not the same.

Yes they are selling the pill under guises of better skin and less periods, but NO, that is not the reason most women take them. Who wants to open that can of worms, about children and people who shouldn’t have had them. Who wants to start ranting about welfare and bullshit.

If you are in here bitching about the pill, I suggest you don’t even start. It is ironic as hell to me that most ppl in here bitching about the pill are also the same fuckers that wont shut the fuck up about pro- life stances. So what do you want assholes? We can’t take a pill to prevent it, because you think its unfair. We can’t abort if we don’t wish it, because you think it’s inhumane. What can we do… besides call you all god and get it over with. Never going to happen motherfuckers. Never.

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As long as the anti-steroid groups have a few examples such as that, and poorly done specials such as The Man Whose Arms Exploded and Science of Steroids, the public who knows next to nothing about AAS use will forever condemn it.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
pushharder wrote:

It’s evident that the pill helps with mood enhancement too.

I shan’t be a-thinkin ye be a-teasin any cocks today, sweetheart.

You’ve got to remember that in discussions like these, speaking in generalities is the norm. There will always be exceptions. Now get your wool panties unwedged out of your cunt crack and relax.

Lol…

I shan’t be a-carin about ye boners anytime, cumquat…

I understand generalities, but I’m pretty sure there are many women like myself who haven’t sacrificed sex drive to the pill. I think everybody should stop demonizing the pill and look to the heart of this situation.

All this finger pointing is just sad. They are both hormones, the reasons for use are totally different. Nobody in law will equate steroid use with the pill, yes they are both choices, … NO those choices are not of equal value to this world they would argue. Anybody with a brain would argue your muscle development and a prevented unwanted pregnancy are not the same.

Yes they are selling the pill under guises of better skin and less periods, but NO, that is not the reason most women take them. Who wants to open that can of worms, about children and people who shouldn’t have had them. Who wants to start ranting about welfare and bullshit.

If you are in here bitching about the pill, I suggest you don’t even start. It is ironic as hell to me that most ppl in here bitching about the pill are also the same fuckers that wont shut the fuck up about pro- life stances. So what do you want assholes? We can’t take a pill to prevent it, because you think its unfair. We can’t abort if we don’t wish it, because you think it’s inhumane. What can we do… besides call you all god and get it over with. Never going to happen motherfuckers. Never.

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All arguing aside, you have a shit attitude.
Flame away.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
They are both hormones, the reasons for use are totally different. Nobody in law will equate steroid use with the pill, yes they are both choices, … NO those choices are not of equal value to this world they would argue. Anybody with a brain would argue your muscle development and a prevented unwanted pregnancy are not the same. [/quote]

What is the female pill? Estrogen and Progesterone.
What is (would be) the male pill? Testosterone (and) Progestagen.

I’m not one of the steroid gurus, but doesn’t T by itself act as “the pill” as well?

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Hormone therapy is a choice, the choice between having a child and not having a child. It is not the equivalent of big muscles and bigger muscles. Just because they are both choices, doesn’t make them the same regardless of motivation.

But there are other ways of preventing pregnancy, such as the IUD or the female condom. However these are not as dare I say it, ‘convenient’.

Many women like the pill for its ease of use.[/quote]

Oh yes, IUD’s are lovely. They pulled a 5 pound tumor out of my mother because of one, and then she had a total hysterectomy…well that’s one convenient way of preventing pregnancy!

Oh, and female condoms, because men only want to make a choice when it comes to steroids? Suddenly they become far less ‘choosy’ when it comes to getting their dick wet.

Listen, take your steroids…I don’t give a shit. But this crying about women having the option to prevent pregnancy and take the pill is ABSURD. Oh, but there are other methods! Why do they get to take estrogen…insert sobbing.

Because other methods FAIL. ALOT. Because men DON’T want the responsibility. Hey, I know what would be most convenient, vasectomy’s! I’d be glad to administer one to each and every poor excuse for a man who is crying about birth control.

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I do agree that the pill is almost fail safe.

However, the reasons behind using something don’t make it any more right.

The fact is, taking the pill messes with natural hormones, and if abused can be very dangerous.
The same goes for AAS.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I do agree that the pill is almost fail safe.

However, the reasons behind using something don’t make it any more right.

The fact is, taking the pill messes with natural hormones, and if abused can be very dangerous.
The same goes for AAS.[/quote]

Lol… reasons don’t matter. That’s a good one jehovah.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Betcha? Okay then. Now, you may have fucked every girl under the sun and they told you this or that with regards to the pill, but forgive me If I don’t take the word of your cunt’s for gospel. I have been on the pill off and on for many years, through ‘college’ and otherwise all the way up until year 34. I have not lost my interest in sex. I am living proof against what you are trying to prove. All your years of sucking and fucking don’t qualify you for shit. Other than to shut the fuck up. You can fuck as many women as you want, it doesn’t get you any closer to understanding what you are talking about. [/quote]

Take me now.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I do agree that the pill is almost fail safe.

However, the reasons behind using something don’t make it any more right.

The fact is, taking the pill messes with natural hormones, and if abused can be very dangerous.
The same goes for AAS.

Lol… reasons don’t matter. That’s a good one jehovah.

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yeah, you got me there, lol.

Maybe I should say the reason behind using the pill doesn’t make it any more right.
Granted, I’m not against the pill, in fact I think it’s a good thing.

But, just because it prevents pregnancy why does that make it any more acceptable than AAS?

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I do agree that the pill is almost fail safe.

However, the reasons behind using something don’t make it any more right.

The fact is, taking the pill messes with natural hormones, and if abused can be very dangerous.
The same goes for AAS.

Lol… reasons don’t matter. That’s a good one jehovah.

yeah, you got me there, lol.

Maybe I should say the reason behind using the pill doesn’t make it any more right.
Granted, I’m not against the pill, in fact I think it’s a good thing.

But, just because it prevents pregnancy why does that make it any more acceptable than AAS?
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I am blatantly obviously of the opinion that BECAUSE it prevents unwanted pregnancy is reason enough.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
pushharder wrote:

It’s evident that the pill helps with mood enhancement too.

I shan’t be a-thinkin ye be a-teasin any cocks today, sweetheart.

You’ve got to remember that in discussions like these, speaking in generalities is the norm. There will always be exceptions. Now get your wool panties unwedged out of your cunt crack and relax.

Lol…

I shan’t be a-carin about ye boners anytime, cumquat…

I understand generalities, but I’m pretty sure there are many women like myself who haven’t sacrificed sex drive to the pill. I think everybody should stop demonizing the pill and look to the heart of this situation.

All this finger pointing is just sad. They are both hormones, the reasons for use are totally different. Nobody in law will equate steroid use with the pill, yes they are both choices, … NO those choices are not of equal value to this world they would argue. Anybody with a brain would argue your muscle development and a prevented unwanted pregnancy are not the same.

Yes they are selling the pill under guises of better skin and less periods, but NO, that is not the reason most women take them. Who wants to open that can of worms, about children and people who shouldn’t have had them. Who wants to start ranting about welfare and bullshit.

If you are in here bitching about the pill, I suggest you don’t even start. It is ironic as hell to me that most ppl in here bitching about the pill are also the same fuckers that wont shut the fuck up about pro- life stances. So what do you want assholes? We can’t take a pill to prevent it, because you think its unfair. We can’t abort if we don’t wish it, because you think it’s inhumane. What can we do… besides call you all god and get it over with. Never going to happen motherfuckers. Never.

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  1. Are you on your period, little girl?
  2. Use condoms + pull out (even while wearing condoms) + don’t have so much sex if you aren’t prepared for a baby

And PLEASE stop all this “we” and “you” talk. Stop acting like all men think this way, and stop victimizing yourself and being a drama queen, for god’s sake. If you aren’t prepared for the consequences, then learn to make different lifestyle choices.

That’s the problem with society today. Everybody thinks their the fucking victim

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[quote]Seinix wrote:

  1. Are you on your period, little girl?
  2. Use condoms + pull out (even while wearing condoms) + don’t have so much sex if you aren’t prepared for a baby

And PLEASE stop all this “we” and “you” talk. Stop acting like all men think this way, and stop victimizing yourself and being a drama queen, for god’s sake. If you aren’t prepared for the consequences, then learn to make different lifestyle choices.

That’s the problem with society today. Everybody thinks their the fucking victim

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She obviously doesn’t need me to defend her, but what you just said doesn’t make a lick of sense. If she was relying on men to use condoms and pull out, then she’d be setting herself up to be the victim. If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?

No one’s forcing birth control on anyone. If some women choose to take it, that is up to them. Everybody else should mind their own business.

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[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?

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You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?

You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?

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I use both genius.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?

You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?

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Condoms break, slip off.

Let me ask you a question. Is there any logical reason for any of the guys here who are making such a big fucking deal about birth control to pretend like it’s any of their business?

Edit: Illiteracy

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[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?

You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?

Condoms break, slip off.

Let me ask you a question. Is there any logical reason for any of the guys here who are making such a big fucking deal about birth control to pretend like it’s any of their business?

Edit: Illiteracy[/quote]

I think the overriding question should be, “why is any consenting ADULT being questioned about their use of hormone supplementation when under the care of a physician?”

The answer is, “oh, we don’t care when it comes to women…”.