[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the overriding question should be, “why is any consenting ADULT being questioned about their use of hormone supplementation when under the care of a physician?”
The answer is, “oh, we don’t care when it comes to women…”.[/quote]…+1…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?
You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?
Condoms break, slip off.
Let me ask you a question. Is there any logical reason for any of the guys here who are making such a big fucking deal about birth control to pretend like it’s any of their business?
Edit: Illiteracy
I think the overriding question should be, “why is any consenting ADULT being questioned about their use of hormone supplementation when under the care of a physician?”
The answer is, “oh, we don’t care when it comes to women…”.[/quote]
I don’t care when it comes to anyone, and plan on hormone supplementation myself when I get to a certain age. Some of the guys on this thread are taking a stand against birth control, not women taking estrogen when they reach menopause. It’s none of their business. But I just jumped into to this thread because idiot was talking out of his ass with his “stop being a victim” speech
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?
You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?
Condoms break, slip off.
Let me ask you a question. Is there any logical reason for any of the guys here who are making such a big fucking deal about birth control to pretend like it’s any of their business?
Edit: Illiteracy[/quote]
slip off? no offense, but WTF? never has happened to me, lol
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
If she chooses to take birth control then she’s taking charge of her own body, which means she is not allowing herself to be a victim. Understand?
You mean she doesnt have any control over whether or not the penis she is CHOOSING to put into her body has a condom on it or not?
Condoms break, slip off.
Let me ask you a question. Is there any logical reason for any of the guys here who are making such a big fucking deal about birth control to pretend like it’s any of their business?
Edit: Illiteracy
I think the overriding question should be, “why is any consenting ADULT being questioned about their use of hormone supplementation when under the care of a physician?”
The answer is, “oh, we don’t care when it comes to women…”.
I don’t care when it comes to anyone, and plan on hormone supplementation myself when I get to a certain age. Some of the guys on this thread are taking a stand against birth control, not women taking estrogen when they reach menopause. It’s none of their business. But I just jumped into to this thread because idiot was talking out of his ass with his “stop being a victim” speech
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no one is taking a stand against birth control.
people are making a comparison how they both alter hormones and when under Dr’s supervision can be much safer. Hence the double standard because BCs are socially acceptable while stuff for men is not.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
no one is taking a stand against birth control.
people are making a comparison how they both alter hormones and when under Dr’s supervision can be much safer. Hence the double standard because BCs are socially acceptable while stuff for men is not.[/quote]
No, lots of people on the far right do. They blame birth control for the decline of traditional morality and the American family. Haven’t you heard of pharmacists refusing to fill birth control prescriptions for religious reasons? I don’t see anyone doing that on this thread, but I believe that’s why Cocktease got rather pissed off and ripped you a new asshole.
Also, compairing birth control to steroids is compairing apples to tennis balls. Compairing steroids to the hormone replacement therapy that post-menopausal women get is a legitimate comparison and a double standard. The birthcontrol argument is not.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
no one is taking a stand against birth control.
people are making a comparison how they both alter hormones and when under Dr’s supervision can be much safer. Hence the double standard because BCs are socially acceptable while stuff for men is not.
No, lots of people on the far right do. They blame birth control for the decline of traditional morality and the American family. Haven’t you heard of pharmacists refusing to fill birth control prescriptions for religious reasons? I don’t see anyone doing that on this thread, but I believe that’s why Cocktease got rather pissed off and ripped you a new asshole.
Also, compairing birth control to steroids is compairing apples to tennis balls. Compairing steroids to the hormone replacement therapy that post-menopausal women get is a legitimate comparison and a double standard. The birthcontrol argument is not.[/quote]
Then lets stay on topic.
I had a patient in school who was going through a sex change operation. This was THE major spring of gossip at the time because she looked like a short white female Mr. T. She would show up wearing 15 gold chains around her neck, a bald head and a goatee. This was quite possibly the single image that I may never be able to lose in this life time no matter how hard I try.
Now, is anyone in the dark about it being WAAAAAAAAAAY easier for a woman to flat out become a man by using male hormones but damn near impossible now for a man to take the same hormones for esthetic reasons while under the care of a physician?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…she looked like a short white female Mr. T. She would show up wearing 15 gold chains around her neck, a bald head and a goatee…
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Thanks for putting that image in my head.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Be careful, AS. If ye dare utter an opinion that varies in the least from that of Miss Estrogen-Soaked-Calm-Demeanor-the-Pill-Only-Affects-Me-in-a-Positive -Manner-Molotov-Cock-Slammer ye risk the ire of a truly rational and objective thinker.[/quote]
Come on Push, you and I are both gun loving country boys (even though you’re technically from up north we’ll let that slide).
We both know there’s a political movement out there that wants to take away our right to own firearms, and if you’re like me, you sometimes can’t help but get pissed the fuck off that these assholes can’t just stay in their own shitty generic suburbs and mind their own fucking business.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Professor X wrote:
…she looked like a short white female Mr. T. She would show up wearing 15 gold chains around her neck, a bald head and a goatee…
Thanks for putting that image in my head. [/quote]
x2
Im having an urge to photoshop that.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Hormone therapy is a choice, the choice between having a child and not having a child. It is not the equivalent of big muscles and bigger muscles. Just because they are both choices, doesn’t make them the same regardless of motivation.[/quote]
Says who? You? Pardon me, but who fucking asked you? Hormone therapy is the lazy way out. It is hormone therapy out of convenience and nothing more.
This is what I said - since you couldn’t be bothered to read the fucking posts first instead of launching into a premenstrual Helen Gurley Brown tirade: It’s not that at all. If an adult woman wants to take hormones to protect against pregnancy, that his her choice.
Who in the fuck made you the judge? Have you ever suffered from low testosterone? No? Then shut the fuck up.
At what age is it safe to put girls on hormones?
I suggest you find the photo of someone pinning a fucking badge on your chest - because I don’t remember anyone appointing you the fucking sheriff.
Pro-Life has nothing to do with hormones. How about not fucking like a god damned rabbit? How about squeezing your fucking knees together? How about making sure your partner exercises a little responsibility? No. You’d rather act like the fucking pill was the miracle drug.
As it stands now, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do, so shut the fuck up about the pro-lifers. That is a straw man if there ever was one.
This is about a man’s right to take steroids, and the hypocrisy of the doctors and the lawmakers.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Have you ever suffered from low testosterone? No? Then shut the fuck up.
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Don’t all women suffer from low test? 
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Have you ever suffered from low testosterone? No? Then shut the fuck up.
Don’t all women suffer from low test? :P[/quote]
Not really.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Hormone therapy is a choice, the choice between having a child and not having a child. It is not the equivalent of big muscles and bigger muscles. Just because they are both choices, doesn’t make them the same regardless of motivation.
Says who? You? Pardon me, but who fucking asked you? Hormone therapy is the lazy way out. It is hormone therapy out of convenience and nothing more.
This is what I said - since you couldn’t be bothered to read the fucking posts first instead of launching into a premenstrual Helen Gurley Brown tirade: It’s not that at all. If an adult woman wants to take hormones to protect against pregnancy, that his her choice.
Who in the fuck made you the judge? Have you ever suffered from low testosterone? No? Then shut the fuck up.
I don’t agree with girls of 11 or 12 taking the pill, and I wouldn’t agree with boys of that age taking steroids…obviously.
At what age is it safe to put girls on hormones?
If you are in here bitching about the pill, I suggest you don’t even start. It is ironic as hell to me that most ppl in here bitching about the pill are also the same fuckers that wont shut the fuck up about pro- life stances. So what do you want assholes? We can’t take a pill to prevent it, because you think its unfair. We can’t abort if we don’t wish it, because you think it’s inhumane. What can we do… besides call you all god and get it over with. Never going to happen motherfuckers. Never.
I suggest you find the photo of someone pinning a fucking badge on your chest - because I don’t remember anyone appointing you the fucking sheriff.
Pro-Life has nothing to do with hormones. How about not fucking like a god damned rabbit? How about squeezing your fucking knees together? How about making sure your partner exercises a little responsibility? No. You’d rather act like the fucking pill was the miracle drug.
As it stands now, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do, so shut the fuck up about the pro-lifers. That is a straw man if there ever was one.
This is about a man’s right to take steroids, and the hypocrisy of the doctors and the lawmakers.
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Fuck yeah, vote for number one post of the year?
So a 14 year old girl can walk into a clinic and get birth control pills in order to have a great piece of mind wrt having sex, but a 21 year old male has to spend months and months trying to get a doctor to prescribe him test so he can feel normal?
The absolute bottom line is that there is a stigma that follows testosterone that does not follow estrogen.
This isnt about pro-life vs pro-choice. This is about how women can get ESTROGEN (for free in a lot of places) in order to make fucking easier but a man often times cant get TESTOSTERONE in order to feel normal (in the case of low-test individuals). I have no problem with girls/women/transsexuals/whatever taking estrogen, but dont sit there and tell me that thats ok but its the 8th deadly sin for me as a responsible, sane, adult man to take test. No one has any real issue with bc here, the issue is with the contradiction our society is presenting wrt hormones.
As a side note, I would really like to see them selling dbol in those nifty little dispensers like bc comes in. That would make my day.
Stronghold, come to Ohio. We have nifty d-bol dispensers
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Hormone therapy is a choice, the choice between having a child and not having a child. It is not the equivalent of big muscles and bigger muscles. Just because they are both choices, doesn’t make them the same regardless of motivation.
Says who? You? Pardon me, but who fucking asked you? Hormone therapy is the lazy way out. It is hormone therapy out of convenience and nothing more.
This is what I said - since you couldn’t be bothered to read the fucking posts first instead of launching into a premenstrual Helen Gurley Brown tirade: It’s not that at all. If an adult woman wants to take hormones to protect against pregnancy, that his her choice.
Who in the fuck made you the judge? Have you ever suffered from low testosterone? No? Then shut the fuck up.
I don’t agree with girls of 11 or 12 taking the pill, and I wouldn’t agree with boys of that age taking steroids…obviously.
At what age is it safe to put girls on hormones?
If you are in here bitching about the pill, I suggest you don’t even start. It is ironic as hell to me that most ppl in here bitching about the pill are also the same fuckers that wont shut the fuck up about pro- life stances. So what do you want assholes? We can’t take a pill to prevent it, because you think its unfair. We can’t abort if we don’t wish it, because you think it’s inhumane. What can we do… besides call you all god and get it over with. Never going to happen motherfuckers. Never.
I suggest you find the photo of someone pinning a fucking badge on your chest - because I don’t remember anyone appointing you the fucking sheriff.
Pro-Life has nothing to do with hormones. How about not fucking like a god damned rabbit? How about squeezing your fucking knees together? How about making sure your partner exercises a little responsibility? No. You’d rather act like the fucking pill was the miracle drug.
As it stands now, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do, so shut the fuck up about the pro-lifers. That is a straw man if there ever was one.
This is about a man’s right to take steroids, and the hypocrisy of the doctors and the lawmakers.
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I am the fucking sheriff. Who told you I wasn’t? You got one thing in that whole dick speech right, and that’s …I can do whatever the fuck I want to do. If you want to act like every 12 year old girl on the planet is getting a prescription to the pill to make your case, be my guest. It’s pathetic.
Don’t fuck like a rabbit? Saying things like this just makes you look like a man with more issues than a news stand pal. Keep my fucking knees together? Why don’t you put your shriveled ego back up your ass and quit talking out of it.
It’s stupid as hell that people are acting like there is no agenda here. What do you think would be the result of women not being able to take the pill? You know, the ‘easy’ way out of not being knocked up. I’m pretty goddamn sure it would be far more detrimental to society as a whole than the unavailability of legal steroids. The one solution that was made to a fucking horrible problem of unwanted children and cyclical poverty, is being shit on all over the place here, and for WHAT. Your fucking right to 18 inch fucking guns.
You can call it hypocrisy, you can call it whatever the hell you want. So sorry you can’t make your case. The bottom line is, it’s just not as important. It hurts, but the truth always does.
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
Fuck yeah, vote for number one post of the year?[/quote]
Calm down sweetie, you can cast your vote for prom king later.