[quote]brownab wrote:
Astar wrote:
UpChucker wrote:
Why no knee wraps? Any of the self proclaimed “fanboys” know? I am too lazy to search it out.
Matt K: “I don’t need them.”
For a wide stance lifter squatting that high they aren’t gonna do much.[/quote]
eh I never really understood it personally, they may not be adding alot but I’d really doubt they’d detract from his squat. And if you’re gonna lift unlimited gear why not use everything at your disposal?
But whatever, I’m sure Matt knows more about what works for his squat then I do
I’ve got to be insane to resurrect a thread that was a crapfest from teh beginning, but I’ve been thinking about this for a while…
Yes, I understand that rules are rules, but when did this become more about jerking off to technicalities than about strength? Kroc pulls a weight to lockout without hitching it … on what planet is that not a deadlift? Because someone else made a mistake that in no way aided the lift? It’s mind-boggling.
This goes way beyond Kroc too. It is an absolute travesty that Brian Siders is not officially a 1000 lb squatter. What REASON is there to disallow foot movement during the lift? Someone will probably bring up the safety argument, but please. The guy got underneath a grand. That’s not safe no matter what.
Yeah, rules are rules, but unless you ask what is the POINT of a rule, then why not just legislate everything? Twitch your head and it’s a no-lift. Pick up the bar without walking around it 3x first and it’s not a deadlift.
powerlifting may be a sport (or a competition, or whatever you want to call it) but the lifts themselves are veritable forces of nature. While they may not have existed since the beginning of time, this is not some tautology to be manipulated and redefined at the capricious whims of a few. Strong is strong.
I don’t know what the “right” answer is. Should the lift have counted or not, but you are correct, the executives of the feds should be going back to the rules and saying, OK, this happened, what guidance should be give for future events?"
The only thing I’m sure about is, that was on hell of a pull!
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i actually thought he locked out that deadlift, guess its why im not a judge[/quote]
I don’t think there’s much question that he did lock it out, but the head judge gave an early down command so technically the lift was already finished.
Personally I think the lifter should have the benefit of the doubt. And as in this case the judges recognized the error on the part of the judge and didn’t penalize the lifter.
[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i actually thought he locked out that deadlift, guess its why im not a judge
I don’t think there’s much question that he did lock it out, but the head judge gave an early down command so technically the lift was already finished.
Personally I think the lifter should have the benefit of the doubt. And as in this case the judges recognized the error on the part of the judge and didn’t penalize the lifter.[/quote]
Yeah, someone said the lift wasn’t locked out but it totally was.
The guy who organized the meet (and was a judge himself) said that the dl judge was ahead of himself and not disqualifying the lift. On what grounds would he have?? I don’t understand the debate on this one. Arbitrary calls should in NO way prevent legal lifts from being recognized. If you had just deadlifted obscene weight but the judge was tired of holding his arm up and let it down before you locked out, would you want that taken away from you? YOU did your part, he failed his.
I don’t understand why people are even arguing about his deadlifts still. The point is that he shouldn’t even have made it the DL in the first place with those squats.
[quote]masonator wrote:
I don’t understand why people are even arguing about his deadlifts still. The point is that he shouldn’t even have made it the DL in the first place with those squats.[/quote]
pointing out that youre in no position to judge the squat from those videos has been done to death, so lets put that aside for now - wheres the video of his first squat? he purposely took it in briefs and at 700-something. so even if his second squat had gone down 1-2 instead of being passed 2-1, he still wouldnt ahve bombed