Knee Pressure During Squats

[quote]IronDude17 wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
I think the pressure occurs during the time that I complete my A2G squat and am coming out of the hole. That’s when I feel it happen although it is subtle.

Are your knees rolling in a little on the way up? use a technique called “spreading the floor” on the way up. to do it you push out on your feet as if you are trying to spread the floor with your feet. this will take the pressure off your knees.

meat

YES! After paying close attention to it, I realize this was my problem. Pressure on the inside of the knee as they roll in a tiny bit. I’ll try your tip. I guess this doesn’t mean anything problematic?[/quote]

Another tip to help prevent the knee rolling in problem: do squats with bands round your legs at knee level, so you have to actually resist the band to keep your knees out. An alternative is the static knees out:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=13412&tid=101

Also, you should get someone experienced to make sure you don’t have this problem:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=38577&tid=101

[quote]
maraudermeat wrote:

nope… It’s a common form problem that many people have. The knees want to role in. You have to consciously think about pushing out. Besides the benefit of keeping your knees healthy you will also have more power.

congratulations for being intune with what your body is doing! Most people don’t listen to their bodies until the problem becomes an injury.

I’ll give you another freebie to help maintain proper position during your squat- when you are coming out of the hole consciously pull your elbows forward. they will naturally want to drift back. think of it as if someone is standing in front of you and pulling your elbows towards them. you will be amazed at how much more power you have and it will help you maintain a tight arch as well.

good luck,
meat[/quote]

thanks for the help, meat!

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:

An individual’s being quad dominant would most likely be due to his training methods. I’m not sure if you’re quad dominant, but most people don’t include enough work for the posterior chain anyway. Also, keep in mind that on movements like parallel back squats, box squats, romanian deadlifts, deadlifts, good mornings, pullthroughs, and pretty much any other “rear end” movement, flat soled shoes like converse will be better. On most deadlift variations, you can even go barefoot.

I wouldn’t say standing leg curls are problematic. But they just may not be all that beneficial. I’d stick to glute ham raises and just vary the loading, sets, and reps. You don’t need more than 1 “isolation” type movement for hamstrings in a single workout. Try throwing in some more compound moves for the hamstrings as well…perhaps romanian deadlifts.

To make sure we are referring to the same sissy squat, I’ll include this video. http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/WTSissySquat.html
Machine would be essentially the same thing here. The farther the knees are in front of the toes during a squat, the more pressure will be placed on the knee. This is not to say that it should never pass the toes, but it should be limited. Your hamstring and glute strength should be strong enough that you can “sit back” into a squat. Sissy squats are the extreme here…the levels of pressure on the knees is great and without much benefit in my opinion. There are far better exercises for putting size and strength on the quads without putting your knee in such a disadvantaged position.

As far as your backoff goes, generally you want to reduce the volume of your work. If you were doing really heavy training, you might want to back off of reps between 1-4 as well.
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/deload.htm

As far as the upper body goes, it depends on how you feel. If you feel like you need a brake all over, then take one. If you are still progressing on upper body lifts and aren’t experiencing pain, then keep goign with it.

Good luck, keep us posted.

-Matt[/quote]

Thanks for the advice. Good point on the sissy squats, I’ll give em a break for now. And I did include romanian deadlifts last month and took em out for this month or so for a break. It’s hard to find lots of hamstring compound movements that I don’t use already.

And I’m not gonna take a back-off week for now since I’m gonna see what happens with changing up the exercises to make them more knee-friendly and see what happens.

[quote]sharetrader wrote:

Another tip to help prevent the knee rolling in problem: do squats with bands round your legs at knee level, so you have to actually resist the band to keep your knees out. An alternative is the static knees out:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=13412&tid=101

Also, you should get someone experienced to make sure you don’t have this problem:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=38577&tid=101[/quote]

Wow that second link makes you worry. Thanks for them though! If I see this problem continue in the future, I’ll try a band thing like that first link.

Whenever I get knee pains during squats I always take a minute and simply massage the cartiledge after performing said set which triggered the pain. I usually just prop my legs up 1 at a time on the safety bar of the squat rack, straighten the leg and massage below and around the knee-cap area. I’m not sure if this applies to your problem, but it has helped me a lot as a simple massage is usually enough to remove the pain on the next set.

I think a lot of people don’t think to “stretch” their knee cartiledge since it kind of gets overlooked and bypassed in favor of the larger leg muscles when doing normal warmup stretching routines. This neglect can result in problems when loading the weight on them, as is (was) my case.