Keeping a Girl from Saying 'Well Expect to Pay for It'

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

There are no happily married guys, just ask the guys who have never been married.
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Happily married.

For now.

As long as she does not feel any different.

Then you are in deep, deep, deep shit.

Its like jumping from a 10 floor building and thinking everything is perfectly allright because you have not hit the floor… yet. [/quote]

How is it any different than me deciding the same thing. She makes more than I do, (most) everything I have we accumulated together. I know the laws are skewed towards women but don’t make the mistake of thinking they are going to walk away with everything. If it happens we both walk away poorer.

Your analogy is very poor, you are essentially saying don’t live life because bad things happen. And you have had bad luck with women? Imagine that with this kind of attitude.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:
I never suggested that anyone rush into marriage based primarily on some half-baked notion of romance, soul mates or straight up lust. I would suggest that everyone should evaluate a potential mate at least as carefully and critically as they would a business partner. One might even look for many of the same qualities the would in a prospective spouse as they would in a business partner, obviously with a few marked differences, IMO.

I will concede that the nature of marriage makes you more vulnerable and greatly reduces your autonomous control of the outcome. However, if you choose your spouse well in the first place your choices and behaviour absolutely will have a significant impact on the health and success of your union. Admittedly, in some cases someone who appears to be a good mate at in the beginning can later display some unforeseeable qualities or behaviours that may doom the marriage regardless of your input. However, the same can be said of the unforeseeable fluctuations of the marketplace which may coincide to render your business model obsolete, regardless of your input.

I absolutely agree that you must take a long, hard, considered look at the significant risks in your life. I would also say that many people fail to do this when when they choose to get married. Thus many marriages are set up to fail from the outset, just as are many businesses.

This just proves that you shouldn’t be stupid, not that you shouldn’t get married or start a business.[/quote]

I have an incredibly hard time remaining objective when it comes to women. Obviously that’s not exactly a rare problem. But just considering the sheer amount of transformation and “growing up” that my girlfriend and I have gone through, problems that have come and gone, problems we keep coming back to, and even just all of the other change… it’s very hard for me to really be objective in terms of saying “yes, this will work out” and to take it to the next level.

There are points in time where it seemed really clear that things would work, and other points where it seemed really clear they wouldn’t. Now, considering we’ve been together for a few years, we’ve figured a few things out. It’s just, there’s some doubts about long term sustainability.

But maybe I just haven’t met the right girl; maybe it’s different with a different girl?

I’m really not sure if I’m asking for advice or not. What I do know is I’m having a lot of trouble figuring all this out. I don’t have the wisdom of “been there, done that”.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

She makes more than I do, (most) everything I have we accumulated together.

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Marriages where the woman contributes 60% or more to household income have extremely high divorce rates.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.[/quote]

Because Men and women are different.

The fewer sexual partners a woman has, the more likely she is to stay in an relationship. Once a woman has over 16 partners, a relationship has only a 20% chance of success. This is why it is wise for men to avoid slutty women for serious relationships.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.[/quote]

Oh please.

First, it is simply a matter of statistics.

The more cock she had, the less likely a marriage is going to last for 10 years.

No cock?

80%.

10-15 cocks?

20%.

Then, the more cock she had the less likely she was in 2-3 LTRs when she is ready to “settle down”.

That is bad, because she probably know how to get a guy to fuck her, big deal, but not how to get and keep a guy in a relationship and that is a very, very big deal.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

She makes more than I do, (most) everything I have we accumulated together.

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Marriages where the woman contributes 60% or more to household income have extremely high divorce rates.[/quote]

Yeah, that is like magic, in countries like China or India that wrecked marriage traditions that had held up for ages.

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[quote]cubuff2028 wrote:
snowboarding analogy as the season’s almost upon us–what would you rather ride, fresh tracks or where everyone else has been before you? [/quote]

I actually will take snowboarding soon as a matter of fact. :smiley:

I do agree with the worn out thing, one girl I was into last year before I sort of fucked her off is the type to get with every swinging dick that shows her a bit of attention.

She was all over this new guy in the lacrosse team and then started slobbering some other guys face right next to him.

Slag is the only word I’d give her now. Probably one of my best bullet dodge at university so far.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

She makes more than I do, (most) everything I have we accumulated together.

[/quote]

Marriages where the woman contributes 60% or more to household income have extremely high divorce rates.[/quote]

Source? So is there a time frame I should be worried? Been together 23 years, married 18 and it is not nearly the struggle now as it was in our younger years. Of course if you want to look at it that way, anyone can fuck you over at any time.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.[/quote]

Oh please.

First, it is simply a matter of statistics.

The more cock she had, the less likely a marriage is going to last for 10 years.

No cock?

80%.

10-15 cocks?

20%.

Then, the more cock she had the less likely she was in 2-3 LTRs when she is ready to “settle down”.

That is bad, because she probably know how to get a guy to fuck her, big deal, but not how to get and keep a guy in a relationship and that is a very, very big deal.

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Pulling your stats out your ass man is not a good argument.

From a psychological stand point you have some point, someone who is a “slut” and has never had a meaningful relationship of course will be ill equipped to handle the “give and take” of a meaningful relationship. However that is probably a very low % of women.

I still dont understand the almost black and white understanding you have with women. Again this could be a regional issue. But you almost sound like someone who was born and raised with that 1950’s belief of the best place for a women is the kitchen.

Again, you still have not answered the scenario with Jersey shore? Because the same standard you have placed on the women can be placed on him also. If he never does more than get drunk, bang some chick and work out, how is he more prepared to sustain a LTR?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

She makes more than I do, (most) everything I have we accumulated together.

[/quote]

Marriages where the woman contributes 60% or more to household income have extremely high divorce rates.[/quote]

Source? So is there a time frame I should be worried? Been together 23 years, married 18 and it is not nearly the struggle now as it was in our younger years. Of course if you want to look at it that way, anyone can fuck you over at any time.[/quote]

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.[/quote]

Oh please.

First, it is simply a matter of statistics.

The more cock she had, the less likely a marriage is going to last for 10 years.

No cock?

80%.

10-15 cocks?

20%.

Then, the more cock she had the less likely she was in 2-3 LTRs when she is ready to “settle down”.

That is bad, because she probably know how to get a guy to fuck her, big deal, but not how to get and keep a guy in a relationship and that is a very, very big deal.

[/quote]

Pulling your stats out your ass man is not a good argument.

From a psychological stand point you have some point, someone who is a “slut” and has never had a meaningful relationship of course will be ill equipped to handle the “give and take” of a meaningful relationship. However that is probably a very low % of women.

I still dont understand the almost black and white understanding you have with women. Again this could be a regional issue. But you almost sound like someone who was born and raised with that 1950’s belief of the best place for a women is the kitchen.

Again, you still have not answered the scenario with Jersey shore? Because the same standard you have placed on the women can be placed on him also. If he never does more than get drunk, bang some chick and work out, how is he more prepared to sustain a LTR? [/quote]

No, but he is probably not interested in one anyway.

Plus, when he “wises up” and be it in his mid 40s he has a lot of options because his SMV has increased, hers hit a wall at Mach 3 at some point.

And yes, that is deeply unfair.

Not more so than the disparaty of sexual power in the early twenties, but unfair nonetheless.

You sell a commodity when its hot, not when it has bumps and bruises, 4 cats and a bitter attitude.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You have painted a picture of women that I cant agree on, not all women in the US that I have came across have #1 get married #2 have kids as their goals in life. [/quote]

Na, that is not quite true.

I have no problem whatsover if a woman does not want kids and wants to fuck around.

I especially like them if they are upfront about it, whether they have sex with me or not.

If you want me to zero in on the ones I do call sluts, to their face if necessary, are the ones riding the cock carousel in their 20s and then decide they are all grown up now and wonder “why all the good men are gone”.

The men who will not take her are not “kidults”, they are not “Peter Pans”, they are not “afraid of strong women”, they are not losers, they are in fact grown up enough to know that even an X box and internet porn are better than a life with her at her side.

Given that that also positively wreaks havoc demographically, at least in Western Europe, is a big fat plus in my book. [/quote]

What would be the difference of the Jersey Shore fucktards, fucking everything on two legs in their 20’s and then they are ready to settle down in their 30’s?

I think you have this opinion that women fall into “virgin” or “slut” that seems a very narrow box you have put them in.[/quote]

Oh please.

First, it is simply a matter of statistics.

The more cock she had, the less likely a marriage is going to last for 10 years.

No cock?

80%.

10-15 cocks?

20%.

Then, the more cock she had the less likely she was in 2-3 LTRs when she is ready to “settle down”.

That is bad, because she probably know how to get a guy to fuck her, big deal, but not how to get and keep a guy in a relationship and that is a very, very big deal.

[/quote]

Pulling your stats out your ass man is not a good argument.

From a psychological stand point you have some point, someone who is a “slut” and has never had a meaningful relationship of course will be ill equipped to handle the “give and take” of a meaningful relationship. However that is probably a very low % of women.

I still dont understand the almost black and white understanding you have with women. Again this could be a regional issue. But you almost sound like someone who was born and raised with that 1950’s belief of the best place for a women is the kitchen.

Again, you still have not answered the scenario with Jersey shore? Because the same standard you have placed on the women can be placed on him also. If he never does more than get drunk, bang some chick and work out, how is he more prepared to sustain a LTR? [/quote]

I posted the stat he apparently pulled out of his in my reply to you

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Also, pulling out if my ass, my ass!

Umh…

Movin on:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x/abstract

The thing that really interests us, superimposed on that study:

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Damn right I am! After 20+ years of screwing/dating/relationships, I finally found someone that I WANT to be with for the rest of my life. [/quote]

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Correction: 10-15 cocks means actually a 70% divorce risk, not 80%

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[quote]orion wrote:
You sell a commodity when its hot, not when it has bumps and bruises, 4 cats and a bitter attitude.
[/quote]

Didn’t know you liked cats. Zing!!!

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^ Life is not fair thats for sure.

How do you put the number of dicks to make a slut?

What about women who forgo relationship to get a degree? And just want some dick now and then on the way?

What is your theory on the high divorce rate?

Who is to blame?

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
2) According to that DAMN sexual market value chart, if anything ever happens to my husband, I should get myself a golden retriever and a vibrator. Cool. I’m a dog person. Thanks for the tip, Orion.
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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

There are no happily married guys, just ask the guys who have never been married.
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QFT