Keeping a Girl from Saying 'Well Expect to Pay for It'

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Ok, then.

Perhaps things are exactly as you say they are. I am rarely arrogant enough to be 100% certain that I am right, and the other guy is wrong.

But I have to ask: What has all of this alleged “insight” done for you? Has it somehow allowed you to find a healthy, longterm, happy-making relationship?

Which kind of brings me back to my original comment: One has to wonder why the insightful gurus never seem to be the ones in successful longterm relationships.[/quote]

Also, I would really like to know how good my guess was.

Of course I do not want any details about your wife, just whether I was right or not.

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Right about what? Not sure what you’re asking.[/quote]

So, why does it work with your wife?

Statistically speaking, she must not have had too many partners before you married and the ones she had were longterm and not drunken hook ups, there should be a SMV difference slightly in your favor and you are instinctively manly enough to push her buttons, maybe with a little exotic appeal thrown in the mix, also working in your favor.
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Yeah, I guess what you wrote is true.

But then again it was also pretty much true of most of the women I was involved with. If I think about it, if you let me drop one of your “elements” for each other woman, it was true for them all. But none of those relationships lasted 20 years like this one did.

And I fail to see the insight involved in knowing that a LTR is more likely with someone who doesn’t freely have sex with others. Hell, the same thing is true for men.

Bottom line, and as Em has said over and over, it depends on what you select for. Most men have trouble seeing that you can’t make a solid relationship based on sex, but you can find your way to great sex if you truly like, respect, and value your partner. Which is not to say that attraction isn’t necessary; it is, but it’s not sufficient.

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.

Disclaimer: Writng on my phone during a training break. May not be very coherent or eloquent expression of my views.[/quote]

Your post sounds pretty damn good to me, bud.[/quote]

Meh, what the fuck do you know? You’re just one of them happily married guys.

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Damn right I am! After 20+ years of screwing/dating/relationships, I finally found someone that I WANT to be with for the rest of my life. I was ok with being single, too… but…

I MORE than paid my dues to get here. As i’m sure you did, also :slight_smile:

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[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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In my opinion good women are crazy and opportunistic

As good men should be

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[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.

Also, if you do not qualify for the 50 meters, you do not get to the marathon.

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I wouldn’t say Orion is trying to “be right”, he just speaks out against the usual madness.
Just like when during a political debate aka lying contest someone from the audience blurts out an all-too-obvious remark.

BTW, your marathon metaphor was nice, although the truth is that after 50 metre dash, all men suddently find out actually run in a marathon as well, at the same time!

@radagasdcar’s abstinence
I don’t know what gods you kneel to, but there’s one that supposedly created men, along with lust and hormones and certain glands and blue balls.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.

Also, if you do not qualify for the 50 meters, you do not get to the marathon.

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It’s 50 yards.

And that statement is indicative of your lack of understanding.

But who am I to argue with success? Oh, wait…

No more interest in discussing this with you, as you clearly are totally convinced that you’re right.

Good luck with that.[/quote]

If you cant get a woman to have sex with you, I think a marriage is pretty much not going to happen.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.

Also, if you do not qualify for the 50 meters, you do not get to the marathon.

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It’s 50 yards.

And that statement is indicative of your lack of understanding.

But who am I to argue with success? Oh, wait…

No more interest in discussing this with you, as you clearly are totally convinced that you’re right.

Good luck with that.[/quote]

If you cant get a woman to have sex with you, I think a marriage is pretty much not going to happen. [/quote]

If pretty much all you’re focusing on is getting in her pants, you’re not learning how to make a LTR work in a way that makes you happy.

And yeah, I said I was done, but then wrote this anyway.

PS: Why does Schwartz show up to defend you from me like that?[/quote]

Due to our German speaking super secret undergr…

Wait, no, maybe he believes what he posted?

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i always hate the marathon analogy. the only analogous part is that they take a long time. life, relationships, whatever do not move at a steady pace. life’s a rugby match, not an auschwitz physique marathon

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.

Also, if you do not qualify for the 50 meters, you do not get to the marathon.

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It’s 50 yards.

And that statement is indicative of your lack of understanding.

But who am I to argue with success? Oh, wait…

No more interest in discussing this with you, as you clearly are totally convinced that you’re right.

Good luck with that.[/quote]

If you cant get a woman to have sex with you, I think a marriage is pretty much not going to happen. [/quote]

In my experience it’s a totally different skill set/strategy/approach to get a strange woman to have sex with you one night than it is to develop a healthy LTR. Very much like it is a very different skill set/strategy/approach to run a 50 yard dash than it is to run a marathon. A LTR is no more a series of one night stands than a marathon is a series of 50 yard dashes. Being good at one will not make you good at the other. In fact, I would say that they are mutually exclusive.

A woman I would choose for a one night stand possesses almost none of the qualities I would look for in a woman I would consider for an LTR. Conversely a woman who I would consider for a relationship would tend to be non-responsive to the approach I would take with the one night stand chick and would, in fact, be disinclined to engage n one night stands at all.

FTR, I have had the most and the best sex with the least drama and STD testing when I have been in LTR’s up to and including my marriage.

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The take home message(s) of this thread:

  1. Co-ed Quidditch is a rough sport. Orion has taken a bludger to his “place that shall not be named” a few times. Cups should probably be required.

  2. According to that DAMN sexual market value chart, if anything ever happens to my husband, I should get myself a golden retriever and a vibrator. Cool. I’m a dog person. Thanks for the tip, Orion.

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
The take home message(s) of this thread:

  1. Co-ed Quidditch is a rough sport. Orion has taken a bludger to his “place that shall not be named” a few times. Cups should probably be required.

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Lol…

You mean the head right?

Nothing against a warm cup of tea but how could that possibly…

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Oppa Gangnam Style! Eh sexy ladyyy oh oh oh oh!

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

These boards filled with guys searching to find the best way to get laid. Then later they complain about how crazy, opportunistic, whatever, women are. They train like crazy for the 50 yard dash, and then wonder why they can’t complete a marathon. You want a good woman? Make that your priority and you’ll find one.
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This.

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Over 6,000 posts, and I’ve never seen you before? How’d that happen? :slight_smile:

And, thanks.[/quote]

I don’t tend to comment in these parts. But your statement is just so obviously true that I couldn’t help myself.

[quote]orion wrote:
[Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.
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Because I don’t tend to comment doesn’t mean I have never been to any of these boards.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

FTR, I have had the most and the best sex with the least drama and STD testing when I have been in LTR’s up to and including my marriage.[/quote]

This. The right relationship beats the hell out of one-night stands every time in my experience. And you don’t get chlamydia.

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[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
[Not one of you has ever been to any of these boards.

Because that is a tiny part of whats happening.
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Because I don’t tend to comment doesn’t mean I have never been to any of these boards. [/quote]

Really?

So you know that its mostly not about getting laid but about becoming a man that can get laid, which is an entirely different ballgame, and aquiring a few useful skills in the process, making fun of feminists and women that think they are owed a family after they exclusively “hooked up” during her 20s, legal advice and whatnot.

You would also know that nobody is telling anyone to bed any woman in sight but that you can do with this information whatever you want and if LTRs are your thing, fine.

But somehow you dont.

You would also know that MRA and MGTOW sites do not discuss dating AT ALL and yet have themes that overlap with the “game” sites to a large degree.

But you dont know that either.

Yeahhhh…

Well…

Umhhhh…

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Orion, first off… you seem like an intelligent person and a genuine guy.

Other than that, I sincerely hope you find what you’re looking for.