[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
I’m thinking of buying some injectable B12 from synthetek.
Opinions regarding my use of it?
Retailboy swears by it in the “Appetite Stimulant” topic. But I guess you already knew that.
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Yep, that’s where I got the idea 
However, is it necessary/beneficial at my level of development?
That avatar is hypnotic.
Now kay why the hell would you go and make your avatar so distracting? you need an appetite stimulant? watch food network or force feed yourself. my two centavos
If you’re gaining then I think you’re fine. The pounds seem like they’ve really been flying on. Good job. I’m glad my idea was of use!
Haha, I cannot believe Altered fell for that video. That’s golden. Anyhow, I wouldn’t bother with that B12 supplement until you use Trenbolone because it is supposed to possibly decrease your appetite quite a bit.
Btw, that supplement has to be injected. The site says it’s oral, but it’s not. It’s in a vial.
[quote]BestDaddyEver wrote:
If you’re gaining then I think you’re fine. The pounds seem like they’ve really been flying on. Good job. I’m glad my idea was of use!
Haha, I cannot believe Altered fell for that video. That’s golden. Anyhow, I wouldn’t bother with that B12 supplement until you use Trenbolone because it is supposed to possibly decrease your appetite quite a bit.
Btw, that supplement has to be injected. The site says it’s oral, but it’s not. It’s in a vial.[/quote]
Yeah I know you inject it… hehe i read the thread at PRO M. Just a thought.
Anyway, I’m going clubbin tonight but I’m going to eat a lot before I go and limit myself to two beers and two girls.
In addition, last night I went to a bar, had 1 beer, 1 grape bomb shot (monster energy drink+grape vodka) and I almost (by almost, I mean i was in the bathroom over the trashcan) puked. I think it’s because I had 1400 calories of milk+protein about an hour before…
Oops.
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Anyway, I’m going clubbin tonight but I’m going to eat a lot before I go and limit myself to two beers and two girls.[/quote]
Why limit the girls?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
Anyway, I’m going clubbin tonight but I’m going to eat a lot before I go and limit myself to two beers and two girls.
Why limit the girls?[/quote]
If I didn’t impose a limit on myself, I would rush through them… 11 pm, 12 am, 1 am, 2 am, 3 am , 4 am… before you know it it’s 6 am and I need a meal and some sleep to grow.
If I limit myself to two girls, I can be done with both by 2 or 3 and get some rest… well shit, I am on test… I’ll probably be up til 6 am with just 1 girl…
damn.
I always leave my meals in the car when i go out… or atleast a gainer shake.
[quote]Hussayn wrote:
I always leave my meals in the car when i go out… or atleast a gainer shake.[/quote]
Yeah. I have done that a couple times. "Excuse me for a couple minutes I’m going to go grab my (insert necessary item, such as credit card here) from my car, be right back. Then snarf down some food in the car, head back into the bar.
Nice lat spread in your avi, btw. You’re making good progress. you haven’t started yet, have you?
Sorry for the highjack Kay, but I know everybody gathers at your thread.
Read this today. Could be interesting…?
Friday » August 1 » 2008
Pills are where the action is
Drugs that mimic exercise are open to abuse by athletes
MARGARET MUNRO
Canwest News Service
Friday, August 01, 2008
Exercise in pill form was unveiled yesterday - along with a warning that Olympians in Beijing could be tested for abusing the medications that transform mice into long-distance runners.
The drugs “genetically reprogram” muscle fibres, mimicking many of the effects of exercise, say researchers, who describe the impact on rodents as “stunning.”
There is a good chance the drugs will work in humans and enable athletes to boost their endurance, says molecular biologist Ronald Evans, who heads the team at the Salk Institute in California. He also envisions the drugs giving couch potatoes a workout and helping bed-ridden individuals stay in shape.
His team is reporting in the journal Cell that mice given the experimental medications ran up to a kilometre, or 68 per cent, farther than untreated mice.
The drugs, taken orally, are readily available from laboratory supply companies. While they are not approved for human use, there is concern some athletes may already be taking them to try to shave time off their races.
The World Anti-Doping Agency is aware of the possibility and has been working with Evans “to develop and implement ways to detect these molecules,” said Frederic Donze, senior media relations manager for the Montreal-based agency that will check for a long-list of performance-enhancing drugs in Beijing.
The molecules, known as GW1516 and AICAR, mimic many of the physiological effects of exercise, says Evans, who describes them as “exercise pills” that trick muscles into “believing” and performing as if they have been working out.
In their research paper they describe how the drugs genetically reprogram muscle fibres to burn fat and contract repeatedly without
fatigue.
In what Evans describes as a “couch-potato experiment” they treated sedentary mice with AICAR for a month before putting them on a treadmill. Remarkably the treated mice ran almost 600 metres in 40 minutes, or 44 per cent longer, than untreated mice.
They report GW1516 had an even more dramatic effect, but only when coupled with exercise. The scientists had mice run 30 minutes a day for a month, with one group also receiving GW1516. When the mice were put on the treadmill after four weeks, the GW1516 treated mice ran more than three hours and three kilometres, or 68 per cent farther than the mice that had only done exercise training. “The dramatic effect of the drug was stunning,” Evans said.
Trials to test how the drugs affect human muscles and endurance have yet to start, but Evans said there is “a very good chance” they will be a similar response in humans.
Evans says the molecules have long been of interest to drug companies and there are human trials under way using them to treat high cholesterol and heart disease.
Evans sees plenty of potential for use, and abuse, of the drugs to try to improve endurance.
“We’re not trying to bypass the need to exercise,” Evans said. “But the idea that you could have exercise in a pill has a lot of potential benefits and could have widespread and valuable use.”
He says the drugs might offer “a jump start” to people who are so obese they cannot exercise and might also counter the muscle-wasting effects of aging and diseases such as muscular dystrophy.
Couch potatoes and people who simply don’t get enough exercise might also benefit by popping a pill while watching TV, he says.
Evans’s team appears to be on to something that could have “far-reaching implications,” said James Rupert, who studies human kinetics at the University of B.C. “This may be huge for people with muscle-wasting conditions, or for muscle loss with age.”
Rupert stresses it is a “big jump” to go from mice to humans. “But this is certainly an intriguing start,” said Rupert, who expects athletes looking for an edge will be tempted by the drugs.
Anti-doping officials are trying to stave off abuse.
The anti-doping agency received “key information” from Evans to develop and implement ways to detect the molecules, Donze says.
The agency is not revealing whether it will test for AICAR and GW1516 in Beijing. But Donze noted that testing could be done retroactively because the International Olympic Committee stores doping control samples for eight years for potential future retesting.
© The Gazette (Montreal) 2008
Copyright © 2008 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc… All rights reserved.
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That should’ve gotten it’s own thread because I’m sure people here are gonna be fuming about it. I, myself am as well. So in other words… Lazy people get to stay lazy without any consequences. Great.
the point of posting that on my thread was because everyone gathers here? As opposed to everyone gathering on the main forum, right?
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
the point of posting that on my thread was because everyone gathers here? As opposed to everyone gathering on the main forum, right?[/quote]
Sorry for the bad etiquette. It won’t happen again.
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Hussayn wrote:
I always leave my meals in the car when i go out… or atleast a gainer shake.
Yeah. I have done that a couple times. "Excuse me for a couple minutes I’m going to go grab my (insert necessary item, such as credit card here) from my car, be right back. Then snarf down some food in the car, head back into the bar.
Nice lat spread in your avi, btw. You’re making good progress. you haven’t started yet, have you?[/quote]
I just openly tell people i’m going to go eat… they know i’m a bodybuilder so anything out of the ordinary goes.
But thanks for the compliments, i was shocked at the picture myself. I don’t look at my back much. I haven’t cycled yet (in august) so I imagine how it’s going to be at the end of the cycle. But never skip a meal.
I even got into a tiny argument with my manager at work because he’d see me eating every 2 hours and I wouldn’t give that up.
Please.
[quote] Brook wrote:
“…they know i’m a bodybuilder…”
Please.[/quote]
Do you have a problem with this statement?
Here, let your “old friend” Wikipedia explain to you what a bodybuilder is:
Bodybuilding is the process of maximizing muscle hypertrophy through the combination of weight training, sufficient caloric intake, and rest. Someone who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder. (Bodybuilding - Wikipedia).
Now, I thought not.
[quote]Hussayn wrote:
Brook wrote:
“…they know i’m a bodybuilder…”
Please.
Do you have a problem with this statement?
Here, let your “old friend” Wikipedia explain to you what a bodybuilder is:
Bodybuilding is the process of maximizing muscle hypertrophy through the combination of weight training, sufficient caloric intake, and rest. Someone who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder. (Bodybuilding - Wikipedia).
Now, I thought not.
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You look like a fat twat to me boy.
I know what a bodybuilder is, no matter whether wikipedia says it is a guy with a big, round, red nose, big baggy trousers and spotty dungarees.
I know that you aspire to be a bodybuilder, but as fat and under-developed as you are, you cannot rightly call yourself a ‘bodybuilder’ with a straight face… do you seriously say that to people and they just nod sternly and dont smile at least?
Jesus. Who do you hang with? Retards?
Any compliment that i may have made about your current progress was scratched with your ignorant arrogance.
However, i do understand that technically, you are trying to build your body, which TECHNICALLY makes you a ‘body-builder’, however, to claim it at your level is nothing short of ridiculous, let alone arrogant as hell - which your last post just confirmed.
You are a little kid who has lifted for a couple of years and made some improvements. that doesnt make you a bodybuilder i am afraid my child… It makes you a little kid who likes to lift stuff… who may or may not have aspirations to one day become a bodybuilder.
If you truly believe that you have ‘arrived’… then you are in for a big shock.
You have recently started posting here like you belong or something, but… um, what do you have to add to this forum if i may? What worldly experience do you have to offer the majority (KVA not included - as i am sure he values your input, as he is trying to learn as much as possible and cannot yet see the fools from the diamonds).
So please do us all a favour and do more reading than writing. There is a rite of passage here… and you do not have it at this point.
[I think i did very well not to swear in that one. thanks for your advice Altered! ;)]
JJ
I won’t even bother with defending myself, this is childish.
[quote]Hussayn wrote:
I won’t even bother with defending myself, this is childish.[/quote]
You’re a good man, Hussayn.
Play nice, boys.
I have a red, swollen area from my last shot, it’s about the size of a half dollar. Shot was 36 hours ago… the knot is pretty dense and painful to touch.
Haven’t had one like this before, hoping it’s just a knot or normal swelling.