Bodybuilders have a professional responsibility to whoever is endorsing them, but as far as I know no company make it a point to put in their contract “no stripping on the side”. Why would they?
Some of you guys are acting like stripping is illegal or something. It’s lawful, potentially lucrative, it isn’t dangerous, and if Kai Green wants to strip and do movies to make the money for his bodybuilding career I don’t see any problem with it, and it’s certainly no reason to knock him out of the running for the title if his physique is deserving.
If I was strapped for cash and my bodybuilding career was my number one priority, I would do a reasonable amount of gay-for-pay too. I probably wouldn’t fuck a grapefruit, and I wouldn’t touch any other men, but I’d strip and throw my dick around on stage for a thousand dollars. Why not?
It’s also my personal opinion that the people who look down on male stripping and see it as so wrong or risque are the people who would be far too insecure to consider being exposed in public - and REWARDED for it. I think you guys should ask yourselves why are you REALLY bothered by the idea of this?
[quote]mr popular wrote:
Bodybuilders have a professional responsibility to whoever is endorsing them, but as far as I know no company make it a point to put in their contract “no stripping on the side”. Why would they?
Some of you guys are acting like stripping is illegal or something. It’s lawful, potentially lucrative, it isn’t dangerous, and if Kai Green wants to strip and do movies to make the money for his bodybuilding career I don’t see any problem with it, and it’s certainly no reason to knock him out of the running for the title if his physique is deserving.
If I was strapped for cash and my bodybuilding career was my number one priority, I would do a reasonable amount of gay-for-pay too. I probably wouldn’t fuck a grapefruit, and I wouldn’t touch any other men, but I’d strip and throw my dick around on stage for a thousand dollars. Why not?
It’s also my personal opinion that the people who look down on male stripping and see it as so wrong or risque are the people who would be far too insecure to consider being exposed in public - and REWARDED for it. I think you guys should ask yourselves why are you REALLY bothered by the idea of this?[/quote]
I don’t think you understand what the term “gay-for-pay” means. Stripping isn’t gay, nor is fucking produce. Having a sexual encounter with another man for money is. Also, no one is truly “gay-for-pay”. You either take dick or you don’t. The money is just a bonus.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Bodybuilders have a professional responsibility to whoever is endorsing them, but as far as I know no company make it a point to put in their contract “no stripping on the side”. Why would they?
Some of you guys are acting like stripping is illegal or something. It’s lawful, potentially lucrative, it isn’t dangerous, and if Kai Green wants to strip and do movies to make the money for his bodybuilding career I don’t see any problem with it, and it’s certainly no reason to knock him out of the running for the title if his physique is deserving.
If I was strapped for cash and my bodybuilding career was my number one priority, I would do a reasonable amount of gay-for-pay too. I probably wouldn’t fuck a grapefruit, and I wouldn’t touch any other men, but I’d strip and throw my dick around on stage for a thousand dollars. Why not?
It’s also my personal opinion that the people who look down on male stripping and see it as so wrong or risque are the people who would be far too insecure to consider being exposed in public - and REWARDED for it. I think you guys should ask yourselves why are you REALLY bothered by the idea of this?
I don’t think you understand what the term “gay-for-pay” means. Stripping isn’t gay, nor is fucking produce. Having a sexual encounter with another man for money is. Also, no one is truly “gay-for-pay”. You either take dick or you don’t. The money is just a bonus.[/quote]
Thank you for responding to the least important part of my entire post. lol
[quote]anonym wrote:
Well, if we really wanted to help get rid of the homoerotic vibe in pro bodybuilding I would recommend we first petition for more modest posing trunks and less emphasis on how dry a dude can get (more specifically: no thanks on the glute striations, especially when it involves butt flossing with your banana hammock to showcase them).
As for whether or not his past performances will impact his dreams of an Olympia… not sure. I mean, he DID win the Arnold, but he might have to wait a few years before he gets to the top of the mountain… regardless of whether he deserves to win it sooner rather than later. I’m not an expert on the politics of bodybuilding, so I can’t say for sure.
Shit, even Arnie took some nude shots.[/quote]
I personally think if he plays it right, it wi;ll simply add to his exposure.
I think the interesting issue here is whether the ‘powers that be’ will let either Martinez (convicted drug dealer) or Greene (with his uh,… known extracurricular activities) win the Olympia simply due to the attention the non-bodybuilding media will heap upon either of them.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think the interesting issue here is whether the ‘powers that be’ will let either Martinez (convicted drug dealer) or Greene (with his uh,… known extracurricular activities) win the Olympia simply due to the attention the non-bodybuilding media will heap upon either of them.
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Exactly. And it’s not as though Kai is just stripping, here. He fucked a grapefruit, on camera, in what I’ve heard was a gay porn video. Now, I don’t know if that means it is marketed to gays (like his stripping vids are) or if there were actually other men having sex with each other on camera, but either way it is a little tougher for most to wrap their heads around than dancing naked for cash.
it’s really a matter of will the Weider Machine allow a non-Weider athlete to win. I hope Kai wins but i believe the best man on that day should win. Kai has the tools to win, if he’s on and looks the best i hope Joe Weider and the judges whom are influenced by bu Joe’s opinion and cash, have the integrity to let the best guy win.
Sidebar: in terms of promoting the sport, yes Phil is the glamor guy, Mr. Crest toothpaste smile, but Kai is very thoughtful and seems well read, intelligent, and articulate, he’s good for the sport. The population afraid of Kai’s “free nature with himself persona” need to re-evaluate their own insecurities. I heard of his stripping video but guess what, i didn’t watch it because the only dick i like is my own.
[quote]Bingbeast wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
This thread has nothing to do with bodybuilding.
When I want to read about stripping and citrus fruit I usually head over to GAL or SAMA.
Personally I think it has a lot to do with bodybuilding. The athletes involved at the highest level of the IFBB are the ambassadors of the sport. I am no bodybuilding aficionado but I definitely recognize the skill, hard work and genetic structure of Kai Greene. I am not trying to take away from his accomplishments, I am simply pondering what it would mean if he became Mr.O. Like I said these guys are the real ambassadors to the sport. If you google his name right now the first suggestion under his name is “Kai Greene Grapefruit video”
I have a feeling that will only add to the ridicule the sport is already facing in the general public.[/quote]
I meant bodybuilding in the sense of what this particular subforum is about. If the discussion stuck to what the title of the thread implies then sure, debate away.
Gay porn and grapefruit fucking has nothing to do with bodybuilding competition or training. Keep it in GAL that’s all I’m saying
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Since when is stripping “GAY PORN”? Maybe some of you are feeling a little gay after watching him strip.[/quote]
I think all of you should feel gay if you watched him strip. And just so we’re clear, there’s a vid of Greene sticking his weiner in a grapefruit? Wasn’t aware there was a market for that?
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think the interesting issue here is whether the ‘powers that be’ will let either Martinez (convicted drug dealer) or Greene (with his uh,… known extracurricular activities) win the Olympia simply due to the attention the non-bodybuilding media will heap upon either of them.
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You mean the same non-bodybuilding media that doesn’t even show the competitions on TV, lol??
I feel like Charles Manson could win the Mr O and no one would care. My other opinion is that Martinez’s conviction is much worse for the image of the sport than Greene’s video(s). But yes I agree that the politics make it completely impossible to predict the outcome of the O.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Since when is stripping “GAY PORN”? Maybe some of you are feeling a little gay after watching him strip.
I think all of you should feel gay if you watched him strip. And just so we’re clear, there’s a vid of Greene sticking his weiner in a grapefruit? Wasn’t aware there was a market for that?[/quote]
Grapefruit will increase the absorbtion of dbol and other oral drugs, obviously. He was just a little confused on how to use the grapefruit properly.
Grapefruit will increase the absorbtion of dbol and other oral drugs, obviously. He was just a little confused on how to use the grapefruit properly. [/quote]
I think some of you are missing the point of my post. I’m not asking if Kai is gay, if Kai really really likes citrus fruit, if me liking Kai as a bodybuilder makes me gay or if male stripping is evil…
The only point I was looking to debate is whether his past activities will hurt his chances at winning the Mr.O. and if so would that be a bad thing in general. There’s no denying that there’s a lot of politics involved in bodybuilding and I do believe these factors may play a factor in the results of the show.
The only reason why I bring up the whole Grapefruit thing is because it’s the first ‘suggestion’ that pops up when you google his name. So that means if he were to win and somebody unfamiliar with the sport will google his name and find “Kai Greene Grapefruit Video”. In my opinion that may not be the best scenario for the top bodybuilder in the world.
I apologize if he was never in a gay porn. A friend of mine who HATES bodybuilding emailed me a vid of Johnny Jackson wearing leather straps and dancing around with his c*#k out. He later sent another one of Kai and said that he’s his favorite gay porn actor (my friend is actually gay!)…so if he only stripped, I re-phrase.
Uh…Not that im not a big fan about talking about homosexual fruit encounters, back to the matter at hand-
I think kai is a huge Contender for the O. I personally dont put Jay in the top 5, ive never really liked the way he looked, i always saw him as disproportional and not as striated has some.
Dex Kai heath are my top 3, Maybe wolf. We will see, im very curious actually as to what’ll happen. Gonna be some good competition this year.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Uh…Not that im not a big fan about talking about homosexual fruit encounters, back to the matter at hand-
I think kai is a huge Contender for the O. I personally dont put Jay in the top 5, ive never really liked the way he looked, i always saw him as disproportional and not as striated has some.
Dex Kai heath are my top 3, Maybe wolf. We will see, im very curious actually as to what’ll happen. Gonna be some good competition this year. [/quote]
Outside of finding another manana, how does one have a homosexual fruit encounter?
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Uh…Not that im not a big fan about talking about homosexual fruit encounters, back to the matter at hand-
I think kai is a huge Contender for the O. I personally dont put Jay in the top 5, ive never really liked the way he looked, i always saw him as disproportional and not as striated has some.
Dex Kai heath are my top 3, Maybe wolf. We will see, im very curious actually as to what’ll happen. Gonna be some good competition this year. [/quote]
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Akuma01 wrote:
Uh…Not that im not a big fan about talking about homosexual fruit encounters, back to the matter at hand-
I think kai is a huge Contender for the O. I personally dont put Jay in the top 5, ive never really liked the way he looked, i always saw him as disproportional and not as striated has some.
Dex Kai heath are my top 3, Maybe wolf. We will see, im very curious actually as to what’ll happen. Gonna be some good competition this year.
Outside of finding another manana, how does one have a homosexual fruit encounter?[/quote]
Party bus?
And victor is def a possibility. But those are who im picking for my top 3.