[quote]nik133 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
FTR, I enjoy bodybuilding for the pure freakness of it. Big guts are a price to pay for being a mass monster. Personally, I think it adds another layer of competition and enjoy the fact that there are several top pros with bigger guts with bigger muscles everywhere along with a crop of “smaller” pros with tighter waistlines but with equally smaller builds overall. I’d prefer the tighter waistline look myself, but I like the idea of mass monsters as they add a different look and another layer of competition and make the sport more interesting as a whole.
And I was unaware it’s impossible for one to think pro bodybuilders have distended guts but make impressive progress oneself. [/quote]
Your last statement = ridiculous, since that isn’t what anyone said. However, if we were to poll all of these guys who love to come in here for the apparent whole purpose of talking shit about certain pros while claiming everyone loved the 60’s (they didn’t), I am willing to bet 99% of them look either untrained or like weekend warriors.
People who really work hard at this, understand how hard those fuckers work even if we may not want to look exactly like them.
The moment someone comes in boasting “all drugs” through a megaphone, you can guarantee they still wear a size medium t-shirt.[/quote]
I’m sure while it took a lot of hard work to achieve Kai’s current physique, it was also due to a large amount of drugs. You don’t gain 70-80 pounds of contest weight in 3 years without dosing a lot of something. Kai’s physique looks marvelous in the first picture I posted,however I think that with the way that bodybuilding has morphed, it took his beautiful physique and changed it into something that is far less appealing. Let’s take a look at a post from MD:
Regarding the biggest drug users in the sport
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Kai Greene - of the current flock of top pros he is by far one of the worst especially when it comes to androgens. Of the guys competing in the Mr O he is on the highest amount of total test per week by a big margin.
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Dennis Wolf - scared to eat a single carb meal without slin
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Trey Brewer - not a pro, but basically added an extra gram of hormones into his stack every time he didnt place how he wanted. ended up learning the hard way that if you cant turn pro on 6 grams of gear, 20+ iu’s of gh, etc you wont necessarily turn pro with 8 grams of gear, 25 iu’s of gh…
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Ronnie Coleman - slammed more parabolan than most people would believe, at times went to almost 40 iu’s of gh, was a pig with slin, still wont stop using slin tren and 2+ grams of test even when he will never compete again
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Silvio Samuel - not sure how current he is anymore after getting jaundice and frying his liver thanks to year long use of high dosed orals without any break
Then Mike Arnold (who is the leader of the steroid forum, so I’m assuming he would know a thing or two about what pros are on):
Why Bullshit? How would you have any idea? Not to be a dick, but seriously, how do you have any clue at all?
I am not saying it’s true or not, but if you think those guys listed aren’t using massive doses of drugs, your kidding yourself. Kai greene is a given, so is Ronnie Coleman. Dennis wolf wouldn’t surprise me one bit…how else you think he gets so big while being such a lazy trainer?
All I’m saying is that I don’t like his physique, that is just as much relevant as someone posting “Hurr Durr Kai is awesome!!LOL!!11.” I think that is the main problem with bodybuilding right now, these guys just look too freaky and they are going to all lengths to get to that stage, not only does the gut bother me, but also the amount of drugs it takes to achieve that physique is also scary. All I want is for bodybuilding to go back to the old days, where it wasn’t about how much you could dose or what your stack was, but more so about the training, diet and just passion for the iron.
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How many mouths does a piece of info have to pass through before it becomes certified hearsay?
I honestly have no doubt that plenty of pro’s and NPC guys use shocking amounts of gear. But I can almost guarentee that no one person knows intimate details about a few pros, let alone FIVE very visible ones.
And I’d be embarrassed to post something like this: “How could you not believe me, just look at them, of course theyre using a ton of shit.” Circular logic is pitiful and only people with the IQ of an inbred turkey would entertain it as fact.
BUT
Your biggest mistake is assuming that guys from the 50’s 60’s and 70’s wouldnt do whatever possible if they had the opportunity. Those guys were doing everything in their power to push the limits they just didnt have access to the pharmaceuticals because they didnt exist yet. How do you think bodybuilding got to where it is today? Do you think Yates was the first one to think “Hey, let me try to everything in my power to be the champion. For the past few years Ive only being giving this 75% of my effort I think I’ll go for 100% now.”
Every single athlete in the world who has ascended to the top of his sport has done everything possible to be the best. And in bodybuilding PEDs are accepted so they are a major part of giving 100% effort. Stop being a jaded pussy
And post a picture of Kai in contest shape you clown. Offseason guest posing vs NPC competitor is a joke. Debate team fail.