It should be. Jesus fucking Christ.
You sound like the CEO of Nestlé when he said water isn’t a human right.
I would like it if high end meal service was a right too. It would be nice if all kinds of things were rights.
That they can not be rights but some people believe that they can has been a major impediment towards better healthcare outcomes, in my opinion. That line of wishful thinking is how we got in this predicament today, not the fact that people want to earn a living or even be very successful at it.
I actually worked for Nestle Waters N. America at the time of that quote and have met Mr. Peter Braebek twice. He is correct for the same reasons that healthcare is not a right.
I don’t have the right to demand that someone else spend their time and resources to quench my thirst. Luckily for society, providing abundant drinking water is a relatively easily solved problem with minimal costs.
I was also the dock coordinator for Nestle’s Lehigh Valley Distribution Center on Sept. 11, 2001. By being a successful company with surplus resources, we were able to coordinate with FEMA to get many dozens of truckloads of water delivered to the disaster sites within hours. What did the “water is a human right” folks do that day?
All you need to do to understand what I’m saying is reflect on the reasons why people don’t have a right to eat duck confit provided to them by you for dinner tomorrow night. It really is that simple.
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You know, I like roller coasters. I’d love for them to be free. But I don’t think they should be enshrined in the constitution.
But I feel like my son not dying should absolutely be a right, for him and me.
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But no one is or will be, so it’s a pointless question. Ask someone who was a real slave this question. In some countries healthcare is a right so the idea that it is somehow inherently not one, is objectively wrong. Besides, is the issue asking for free healthcare or asking that the insurance you are paying for actually insure you?
Should and can are two different things, in this case.
You’ll notice that no material goods or services are enshrined as rights in the Constitution. Even a speedy trial isn’t a right, per se, it just means that if you don’t get one charges will be dropped. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t provide you with arms, it merely states you have a right to keep and bear them.
Leftist policy.
Pertinent info- march 2010.
United stock value circa 2010.
Standing in the way of utopia:
God damn. I wish somebody would fuck me up like the government did to them!
And herein lies the evil. The death by numbers. The kind of shit that earns people a bullet.
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,”
Does it say you have the right to manufacture or sell them?
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ACA was leftist in the sense that is socialized the costs of healthcare among everyone who purchases private health insurance. It was written by insurance companies, which still makes it capitalist.
It’s a weird combination of ideologies. I actually think full socialized healthcare would have worked out better, but still worse long-term than simply allowing healthcare to flourish in the market.
Right. So do slaves count as a good or a service?
Article I
Section 9 Powers Denied Congress
- Clause 1 Migration or Importation
- The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
It is very interesting you bring slavery up, as Democrats have always held dearly to the idea that they are entitled to the fruits of other people’s labors. It’s one of the only consistent ideas that political party has had.
If you want to talk about morally catastrophic ideas over time, start with your own idea that you are entitled to other people’s labors.
Does this mean no one works for anyone else?
Do I really need to explain the concept of exchanging goods and services through an agreement to you?
Good point. Although if if you have a squirrel to remove, yes.
What the fuck does this have to do with anything we are talking about?
An ER doctor should have absolute discretion when it comes to who he treats? Shouldn’t that be at his employer’s, the hospital, discretion?
Don’t you know Republicans don’t believe in taxation, surveillance of citizens or sending young Americans to wars that benefit corporations?
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They were founded on a pro slavery platform and, for their entire history, have told their voters that they will get you some stuff from that other guy over there. That’s still the message in 2024, contained in words like “healthcare is a right”.
That idea is much, much older than that particular political party.
Like… Mexico will pay for it?
You guys keep forgetting about a thing called reality.
Of course he gets to choose. He can choose to retire, become an author or do anything at all besides treat ER patients.