And if he chooses the hospital, then he chooses to abide by its policies.
Oh, so you do understand how agreements between adults can work. I thought I would need to explain that one to you.
And if the hospital is told by the government that it cannot turn away emergencies, then is that stealing labor or enslaving a doctor (who is still getting paid)?
In some countries there is a right to abortion and a right to not be offended. That doesn’t mean they are god given rights.
They insurance you have comes with certain rules. If the insurance you are paying for doesn’t cover the things that your premiums cover, then you are not paying for that coverage.
It is not enslaving by most definitions but it is a form of compulsion, obviously. The idea only works as long as there are surplus resources.
If my town continues it’s trajectory, we’ll be lucky if any doctors want to work here at all in another 15 years.
Neither are any of the rights in the Bill of Rights.
Rules for the insured that are dependent upon the whim of the insurers.
Every law is.
OK, health care isn’t a right, I can’t just demand doctors work for me for free.
But if you enter an agreement and Pay For An Insurance plan, based on the idea that you’ll be covered when you need health care, are you then Entitled to health care?
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That’s how agreements and the concept of health insurance works, in theory.
Imagine how expensive automobile insurance would be if insurance companies had to pay out everything bad that happens in a car, regardless of what kind of insurance policy was purchased from them.
No one has said that.
No. It’s in the fine print.
No one has said that?
Fuck this argument too. Yes, Democrats were pro-slavery and Abraham Lincoln is one of the best presidents we’ve had.
But that was almost 200 years ago. Republicans flipped the switch when they embraced the Southern strategy, and fought against segregation.
See, this is why I’m not willing to jump in to partisan finger pointing.
This is a humanity issue. This is naked, bold faced greed. This is taking money in one hand and denying people what was paid for with the other.
I’m not taking a moral high ground calling it evil. Im just pointing at it and saying “Thats evil.”. Its as old as humanity and ugly as ever.
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Wasn’t it all Dems who filibustered the Civil Rights Act?
Yeah, that’s the system I was talking about. I’m looking for the article about how the doctors only spent 6 seconds reviewing the cases.
The civil rights movement of the 1950’s and 1960’s was Republican-led. Segregation was a Democrat policy then and you will not find more segregated places in America today than you will in Democrat strongholds.
It all goes back to one really nefarious little idea people can always find new ways to talk themselves into, the idea that is at the heart of Democrat policy.
I am entitled to something from someone else.
Healthcare is a right. Housing is a right. Education is a right. That idea is all over their rhetoric.
Meanwhile the gulags await every society that commits to this path. The level of Nineteen Eighty Four newspeak I hear on a daily basis here in Maine is already quite concerning. These are the gulag people if they could only get just a little bit more power.
Can’t find it, but Cigna spent less than 2 seconds per denial.
"The vague wording made van Terheyden suspect that Dr. Cheryl Dopke, the medical director who signed it, had not taken much care with his case.
Van Terheyden was right to be suspicious. His claim was just one of roughly 60,000 that Dopke denied in a single month last year, according to internal Cigna records reviewed by ProPublica and The Capitol Forum.
The rejection of van Terheyden’s claim was typical for Cigna, one of the country’s largest insurers. The company has built a system that allows its doctors to instantly reject a claim on medical grounds without opening the patient file, leaving people with unexpected bills, according to corporate documents and interviews with former Cigna officials. Over a period of two months last year, Cigna doctors denied over 300,000 requests for payments using this method, spending an average of 1.2 seconds on each case, the documents show. The company has reported it covers or administers health care plans for [18 million people]"
I think most insurance companies are evil, but I can’t condone shooting this guy. Lock him up? Hell yeah. Lock them all up? Sure. But you start shooting people and it does lead to things like twojars is talking about. There will be purges.
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100%. That’s it.
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But no one is actually getting locked up.