Just Met Markus Ruhl

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
It’s a smith high-incline/military with the widest possible grip. Seated.

This is really an exercise that needs to be introduced to the wider public, Smith or free weight or whatever.

I know lots of guys have trouble with overhead pressing (I sure did) and it’s a movement that allows you to use superior leverage with stupid amounts of weight to build bigger, stronger shoulders in a fraction of the time it would take otherwise.

I worked out a wonky solution with a 0-90 incline bench and my power rack, and I’ve just been fucking around for the past few months, usually with not enough protein in me…and between this exercise and a couple sets of side laterals my shoulders have never been bigger or stronger.

Someone who cycled this exercise with a few others (strict DB press, push press, power squat push press etc) over a number of years would be able to build a truly retarded amount of mass and strength in the shoulder girdle…which is exactly what Ruhl has done.

Is it equivalent to a free weight strict standing military press? Of course not. But he’s not training for that. He’s training to get (in his case, stay) fucking huge, and in order to get fucking huge you have to train for it.

Doesn’t matter WHAT you do, as long as it works for your body type and you bust your ass.[/quote]

Glad you like the exercise… That one has been my fav for shoulders since I’ve seen Rühl do it in person.

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I train in a gym in Oz that has had Markus train there and each year we have a pro show and I get to train and meet with a lot of pro bodybuilders, its general knowledge and accepted that Markus some incedible wight in this movements, 700lbs has been that weight that has been discussed.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
LUEshi wrote:
It’s a smith high-incline/military with the widest possible grip. Seated.

This is really an exercise that needs to be introduced to the wider public, Smith or free weight or whatever.

I know lots of guys have trouble with overhead pressing (I sure did) and it’s a movement that allows you to use superior leverage with stupid amounts of weight to build bigger, stronger shoulders in a fraction of the time it would take otherwise.

I worked out a wonky solution with a 0-90 incline bench and my power rack, and I’ve just been fucking around for the past few months, usually with not enough protein in me…and between this exercise and a couple sets of side laterals my shoulders have never been bigger or stronger.

Someone who cycled this exercise with a few others (strict DB press, push press, power squat push press etc) over a number of years would be able to build a truly retarded amount of mass and strength in the shoulder girdle…which is exactly what Ruhl has done.

Is it equivalent to a free weight strict standing military press? Of course not. But he’s not training for that. He’s training to get (in his case, stay) fucking huge, and in order to get fucking huge you have to train for it.

Doesn’t matter WHAT you do, as long as it works for your body type and you bust your ass.

Glad you like the exercise… That one has been my fav for shoulders since I’ve seen Rühl do it in person.
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wait when u do them in a smith with a high incline your hands should be as wide as possible, damn i didnt now that ive been using like half of that hahah

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[quote]sickonstorm wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
sickonstorm wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:

their is no way he can military press 700 plus on a smith.
Yeah, his delts are all fake anyway, right? I’m sure he got them from 15 lb side raises…
id say the most he can mil is 405 for a max freeweights.
You have something to base that opinion on?
Awesome post

Very insightful.

All of that coming from a 6’2" 170 pounder. Outstanding.

Bodybuilding.com wants you back. ← I think they just banned him there.

it doesnt matter how big his delts are hes not military pressing as a bber more than most powerlifters can deadlift.

It’s a smith high-incline/military with the widest possible grip. Seated.

And yeah, look at Jeremy Hoornstra… Who trains like a bodybuilder, competes in bodybuilding and has benched 700 raw, touch and go in the gym and and 615-675 in competition or so in the 242lb weightclass.

But hey, no bodybuilder could ever raw-bench more than most powerlifters deadlift, right?

Seeing as how you have all of 4 posts on here and your own numbers suggest that you are a complete beginner… Maybe you should consider that other people may know a bit more than you and gasp may be lifting a bit more as well?

yes a 275 bench and 415 deadlift at 6’2 170 and 19 really signifies im a beginner.

my number dont matter, its all about knowledge about the sport. ronnie coleman is undoubtebly the strongest bber alive today, fuck jackson. ronnie only mils 315x12 (and those are 1/4 reps. a smith machine doesnt add 400 pounds to your lifts.

i cant smith military press 500 pounds but i can bench 275. i doubt ruhl can press more than 450 so why would ibelieve he can smith military press 700 fucking pounds.

also thats gotta be pretty stupid using the widest grip possible shoulder injuies loi.[/quote]

o yea what a weak little man, btw dude when u weigh 170 how can u not be a beginner. Im over 5 inches shorter and weight more so
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=marcus+ruhl&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#q=marcus+ruhl+shoulders&hl=en&emb=0

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I tend to do pinkies on the rings when doing free weights, simply so I can balance the weight. Obviously in the Smith you can go to town.

If you watch some of Ruhl’s videos, you’ll see he goes super-wide on every pressing movement. Which is probably why he has the biggest shoulders in bodybuilding and a monster chest besides.

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
wait when u do them in a smith with a high incline your hands should be as wide as possible, damn i didnt now that ive been using like half of that hahah

I tend to do pinkies on the rings when doing free weights, simply so I can balance the weight. Obviously in the Smith you can go to town.

If you watch some of Ruhl’s videos, you’ll see he goes super-wide on every pressing movement. Which is probably why he has the biggest shoulders in bodybuilding and a monster chest besides.[/quote]

o ya ur right i actually didnt even pay attention to his hands but i see now thanks.

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i do those cable curls to my head too.

so does this other guy at my gym whos pretty jacked.

word on the street was it came from Markus Ruhl, guess the streets was right.

and word 2 bigbird@ putting socks into sweatpants, i never thought of that and my sweats get kinda baggy and i end up stepping over em.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i do those cable curls to my head too.

so does this other guy at my gym whos pretty jacked.

word on the street was it came from Markus Ruhl, guess the streets was right.

and word 2 bigbird@ putting socks into sweatpants, i never thought of that and my sweats get kinda baggy and i end up stepping over em.[/quote]

ive seen lee priest do them too

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i met King Kamali in tysons corner mall in tysons corner, virginia probably about 7 or 8 years ago. it was around the time that he was stirring up shit and in the magazines a lot. he was freaking huge. he had on a snug fitting sweater, so you could really see the sweep of his back, it was ridiculous. shook hands with him and even his hand was ridiculous.

i think i must have looked down to make sure i was shaking his hand and didnt grab his forearm by mistake. imagine the thickest hand youve shaken, then times two. he was also taller than i would have thought. hes always listed at like 5’10", but he seemed closer to 6’, couldve been shoes i guess.

and about two years ago i met Chris Cormier while i was staying at the Wynn in vegas for a week. i was lounging out at the pool, and saw this beast of a man come out the door. i realized pretty quickly who it was, and he seemed to be gazing out along the pool looking for someone. i went up and said hi, shook hands, etc. his hand didnt strike me as oddly huge like Kamali’s did, but his forearms were huge.

Hes got a tat of a lion’s head on the inside of his right forearm, i remembered seeing it in muscle and fitness one time, but the tat itself, and therefore forearm were much larger than id imagined. i guess he assumed that since i recognized him then i knew what he was there for (turns out there was a big supplement sponsored thing going on) and he asked me if id “seen any of the other guys, Shawn, Kevin…?”.

anyway, its cool to meet them for sure. its one thing to see a person like that on tv or magazine or whatever, its quite another to actually stand next to them.

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ok this might be a fundamental concept that i missed…

going for a wiiiide grip on a shoulder press will build the shoulders better?

i take a wide grip on flat bench to get it more on my chest (index/middle on rings), and i take about the same grip on overheads. will i hit the shoulders better if i push my overhead grip out even more?