[quote]Invictica wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
i just look at weights and get huge.
Post Weight-looking Routine now.
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually. [/quote]
I think Holy Macaroni was being sarcastic.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Invictica wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
i just look at weights and get huge.
Post Weight-looking Routine now.
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually.
I think Holy Macaroni was being sarcastic.[/quote]
Oh my…
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Invictica wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
i just look at weights and get huge.
Post Weight-looking Routine now.
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually.
I think Holy Macaroni was being sarcastic.[/quote]
but invictica wasnt.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, and for the record, 250lbs at 6’4" is like someone of average height at under 200lbs. In other words, THAT ISN’T BIG…[/quote]
Here is what I don’t understand-
250 (pounds)/76 (inches)= approx. 3.2895
230 (pounds)/70 (inches)= approx. 3.2857
I understand this isn’t a perfect science or anything, but I don’t understand how 6 inches can take away 50-60 pounds from your credit. I understand that it makes you LOOK less impressive but I don’t know why it would make that huge of a difference as far as how hard it was to get there.
I’m not trying to argue, I’m just wondering why.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Plus, 250lbs on a 6’4" frame isn’t particularly huge.[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about it isn’t particularly big? What relative too strongman competitors?
[quote]Con@n wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
Plus, 250lbs on a 6’4" frame isn’t particularly huge.
What the fuck are you talking about it isn’t particularly big? What relative too strongman competitors?[/quote]
Relative to bodybuilders.
[quote]Cable wrote:
Con@n wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
Plus, 250lbs on a 6’4" frame isn’t particularly huge.
What the fuck are you talking about it isn’t particularly big? What relative too strongman competitors?
Relative to bodybuilders.
[/quote]
Relative to most guys who are what we consider big.
Most of the “big guys” on this forum are 240+ or so and are 6 foot or shorter.
A 6’4 guy at 250 is like a 6 foot guy at 210.
He looks like he lifts, but hes not exactly stacked.
The perspectives you guys are coming from are very much off kilter if you think 250lbs (under 15% bodyfat) isn’t big. I weight 250 @ 6’3 and am generally the biggest person everywhere I go including the gym. That’s no bragging, that’s a fact.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
acelement wrote:
but in the real world, many people get big from genetics or shit-luck. And pass on that shit advice thinking it will work for everyone just because it worked for them.
?
what the fuck? are you kidding me?
you’re right dude. i got huge b/c of shit luck. and genetics. infact, i just look at weights and get huge. keep telling yourself to make you feel better.
you whiny bitch. i wish you were around so i could backhand the shit out of you.
i HATE that every small motherfucker always has to come back to the whole ‘genetics and luck is what made him big’.
stop fucking crying and grow up. hit the weights. no more excuses.
Agreed. I heard this from someone the other day…as if the last decade plus of lifting more regularly than anyone I know isn’t why I look like this…or the fact that I plan my meals in advance and don’t take extended time off. Nope, it must just be genetics.
For the record, HM, you weigh about 230lbs right? At 5’10". The guy he is speaking off weighs a WHOPPING 250 while carrying 6 more inches in height…yet this is the representation of what “big” is now.
I can see why there are so few people on this site who do actually get big themselves. They are too busy trying to tear down other people who have passed up their progress by either belittling their accomplishments (by blaming it all on genetics, drugs or the weather) or acting like their every word should sound like a college physiology lecture. If they say anything that isn’t a direct quote from a Poloquin article, then we get internet threads WARNING newbies to avoid the advice of big guys.
This shit is retarded.
I doubt anyone will have to ever worry about people like this becoming very big themselves. Their search for faults will prevent that.[/quote]
[quote]Con@n wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
Plus, 250lbs on a 6’4" frame isn’t particularly huge.
What the fuck are you talking about it isn’t particularly big? What relative too strongman competitors?[/quote]
It’s tall. It’s not big.
I do admit smaller people grossly misguess a larger person’s weight.
If your smaller then what makes up 3% (guess)of the world population, your still big.
Whatever, it’s a small point to argue.
[quote]Con@n wrote:
The perspectives you guys are coming from are very much off kilter if you think 250lbs (under 15% bodyfat) isn’t big. I weight 250 @ 6’3 and am generally the biggest person everywhere I go including the gym. That’s no bragging, that’s a fact.
[/quote]
Actually, when I read that I was thinking…depending on what body fat. I think you are right. My weight is always over estimated, even by bigger guys.
[quote]Con@n wrote:
The perspectives you guys are coming from are very much off kilter if you think 250lbs (under 15% bodyfat) isn’t big. I weight 250 @ 6’3 and am generally the biggest person everywhere I go including the gym. That’s no bragging, that’s a fact.
Professor X wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
acelement wrote:
but in the real world, many people get big from genetics or shit-luck. And pass on that shit advice thinking it will work for everyone just because it worked for them.
?
what the fuck? are you kidding me?
you’re right dude. i got huge b/c of shit luck. and genetics. infact, i just look at weights and get huge. keep telling yourself to make you feel better.
you whiny bitch. i wish you were around so i could backhand the shit out of you.
i HATE that every small motherfucker always has to come back to the whole ‘genetics and luck is what made him big’.
stop fucking crying and grow up. hit the weights. no more excuses.
Agreed. I heard this from someone the other day…as if the last decade plus of lifting more regularly than anyone I know isn’t why I look like this…or the fact that I plan my meals in advance and don’t take extended time off. Nope, it must just be genetics.
For the record, HM, you weigh about 230lbs right? At 5’10". The guy he is speaking off weighs a WHOPPING 250 while carrying 6 more inches in height…yet this is the representation of what “big” is now.
I can see why there are so few people on this site who do actually get big themselves. They are too busy trying to tear down other people who have passed up their progress by either belittling their accomplishments (by blaming it all on genetics, drugs or the weather) or acting like their every word should sound like a college physiology lecture. If they say anything that isn’t a direct quote from a Poloquin article, then we get internet threads WARNING newbies to avoid the advice of big guys.
This shit is retarded.
I doubt anyone will have to ever worry about people like this becoming very big themselves. Their search for faults will prevent that.
[/quote]
Yeah me too. It’s not exactly a great feat here at Fitness 19.
[quote]Invictica wrote:
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually. [/quote]
glad you asked.
i generally do 3 sets of 30 seconds, as i find my eyes start to strain if i try to hold it any longer.
now, at lot of people say that you need to stare at the same weight 3 times, but i disagree. I like to mix it up, and generally increase the weight i stare at as i move up. sometimes though i’ll mix it up and just quickly glance at all the weights in the 5-20lb row, followed by 5 sets of blinking, really good ‘finisher’.
i’ve heard about ocular glutamine, but haven’t tried it yet. i just do what everyone else does and put some no-xplode in a visene bottle.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Invictica wrote:
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually.
glad you asked.
i generally do 3 sets of 30 seconds, as i find my eyes start to strain if i try to hold it any longer.
now, at lot of people say that you need to stare at the same weight 3 times, but i disagree. I like to mix it up, and generally increase the weight i stare at as i move up. sometimes though i’ll mix it up and just quickly glance at all the weights in the 5-20lb row, followed by 5 sets of blinking, really good ‘finisher’.
i’ve heard about ocular glutamine, but haven’t tried it yet. i just do what everyone else does and put some no-xplode in a visene bottle.[/quote]
Awesome. I’ll keep a log too. Keep you guys update on my progress. Hopefully I can get up to 150lbs with this routine!
Thanx Brah!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
He also shouldn’t be telling you what your goal should be.[/quote]
This is what always bothers me the most.
[quote]Invictica wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
Invictica wrote:
How long should I look at the weights for maximum hypertrophy? How many sets and reps should I do? Should I rub glutamine into my eyes for increased recovery. If so should I do it 15 or 30 minutes post workout. Is this routine better for bulking or cutting? I don’t want to get too big actually.
glad you asked.
i generally do 3 sets of 30 seconds, as i find my eyes start to strain if i try to hold it any longer.
now, at lot of people say that you need to stare at the same weight 3 times, but i disagree. I like to mix it up, and generally increase the weight i stare at as i move up. sometimes though i’ll mix it up and just quickly glance at all the weights in the 5-20lb row, followed by 5 sets of blinking, really good ‘finisher’.
i’ve heard about ocular glutamine, but haven’t tried it yet. i just do what everyone else does and put some no-xplode in a visene bottle.
Awesome. I’ll keep a log too. Keep you guys update on my progress. Hopefully I can get up to 150lbs with this routine!
Thanx Brah![/quote]
Be.Very.Careful.
Form is paramount. They don’t call those “Popeyes” for nothing.
My brah blew out an eye last year on the 40’s.
Blinks and carrotz!!11!1
[quote]Con@n wrote:
I do admit smaller people grossly misguess a larger person’s weight.
If your smaller then what makes up 3% (guess)of the world population, your still big.
Whatever, it’s a small point to argue.[/quote]
Apparently it isn’t. I don’t consider people that weight that much less than me at a height of 6 inches taller than me to be “big” as it relates to SERIOUS WEIGHT LIFTERS. We are not talking about the casual weekend warrior who will never fill out an XL t-shirt.
[quote]Eielson wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Oh, and for the record, 250lbs at 6’4" is like someone of average height at under 200lbs. In other words, THAT ISN’T BIG…
Here is what I don’t understand-
250 (pounds)/76 (inches)= approx. 3.2895
230 (pounds)/70 (inches)= approx. 3.2857
I understand this isn’t a perfect science or anything, but I don’t understand how 6 inches can take away 50-60 pounds from your credit. I understand that it makes you LOOK less impressive but I don’t know why it would make that huge of a difference as far as how hard it was to get there.
I’m not trying to argue, I’m just wondering why.[/quote]
I would try to argue, depending of course on bf %. 250 pounds at 6’4 and < 10% is a pretty big dude. I’m not talking gigantic but a pretty big dude. No doubt about it. Lou Ferrigno was was 6’5" and 270 in Pumping Iron and I would be bold enough to say he was huge.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Con@n wrote:
I do admit smaller people grossly misguess a larger person’s weight.
If your smaller then what makes up 3% (guess)of the world population, your still big.
Whatever, it’s a small point to argue.
Apparently it isn’t. I don’t consider people that weight that much less than me at a height of 6 inches taller than me to be “big” as it relates to SERIOUS WEIGHT LIFTERS. We are not talking about the casual weekend warrior who will never fill out an XL t-shirt.[/quote]
Like I said, Lou was about your weight at 7 inches taller. Are you saying he wasn’t a big guy?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Con@n wrote:
I do admit smaller people grossly misguess a larger person’s weight.
If your smaller then what makes up 3% (guess)of the world population, your still big.
Whatever, it’s a small point to argue.
Apparently it isn’t. I don’t consider people that weight that much less than me at a height of 6 inches taller than me to be “big” as it relates to SERIOUS WEIGHT LIFTERS. We are not talking about the casual weekend warrior who will never fill out an XL t-shirt.
Like I said, Lou was about your weight at 7 inches taller. Are you saying he wasn’t a big guy?[/quote]
Lou was WAY leaner than me at his 270lbs. I am not near contest shape and would doubtfully be near contest shape until I got under 250lbs.
Someone 6’4" is taller than anyone competing in NPC that I can think of, and most of the guys who are over 6’2" COMPETE at over 250lbs which means they are hitting 300 in the off season.
So NO, I do not consider 250lbs of casual weight (if you choose to believe the guy he is speaking of was near contest shape, that is your issue, but I seriously doubt the guy in question was anywhere near 250lbs) at 6’4" is very big.
The average guy in most gyms is not walking around at less than 10% body fat while holding that much weight, yet you think this guy the OP is talking about was almost stage ready?