does anybody have any experience with them? just wondering if they are a good investment or not. they wouldnt be replacing my strength training but would be used during conditioning and some skill work. thanks for any input.
don’t waste your money…get stronger and do some plyo training.
I added about 6 inches to my vert. Not a bad investment but there are better jump/vert programs out there.
I wouldn’t buy them either. I did and got some nice achilles tendonitis. SUCKS! I would avoid them and do two things: 1. Increase absolute strength; and 2. Increase reactive strength.
Nick
I noticed very good results in a short time period. If your looking for a cheap pair im willing to sell mine for $45, they are in very good condition.
NO WAY!!
You have a better chance of getting hurt than increasing your vert with those things.
[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
I added about 6 inches to my vert. Not a bad investment but there are better jump/vert programs out there.[/quote]
Not to be mean Blake, but I have to ask, what were the before and after numbers?
Six inches is pretty good, but if it took you from 16" to 22" then that’s not saying much.
And to the original poster, don’t buy them. Just go to “higher-faster-sports.com” and read what Kelly has to say. If you like that, then go and check out “inno-sport.net” and maybe pick up The Sports Book. The information in the above sites will be more than enough to get you where you want to be.
RJ
I have to admit that i used them. i dont know how much i gained, all i know is i gained in vert, but i gained ESPECIALLY in quickness. i becamse much more agile.
I must give some credit to my maturing body though (i was about 12-13 when i did them- i am almost 15 now), and the fact that i lost about 40 lbs (im pretty sure before) i did them.
In my opinion, all u need to do is lift weights and do basic plyos and ull be fine. The j-soles are a TOOL to help you out. the WEIGHTS and PLYOS are probably the main parts to increases.
I attribute some of my quickness and vertical to using somthing similiar. You have to pay special attention to your posture and angle of your heel at all times though or you will end up with achilles problems…then again there should be instructions telling you that and it should also tell you to walk around in them for awhile to get used to keeping your heel aligned correctly.
[quote]RJ24 wrote:
BlakedaMan wrote:
I added about 6 inches to my vert. Not a bad investment but there are better jump/vert programs out there.
Not to be mean Blake, but I have to ask, what were the before and after numbers?
Six inches is pretty good, but if it took you from 16" to 22" then that’s not saying much.
And to the original poster, don’t buy them. Just go to “higher-faster-sports.com” and read what Kelly has to say. If you like that, then go and check out “inno-sport.net” and maybe pick up The Sports Book. The information in the above sites will be more than enough to get you where you want to be.
RJ[/quote]
24" to 30". then I started squating and doing other stregth/reactive strength work and got it up to ~34, but my after vert was incorrectly tested so I think it was closer to 28 so a 4" gain, but I don’t attribute more than 2" to jump soles because I had just started making newbie gains from working out and gaining weight.
Those things are garbage; they’ve done studies that show they’re useless.
Try this; it’s about the same price, but a much better investment for long-term athletic success. You’re better off relying on solid training principles than you are on silly gimmicks.
But then again, what the heck would I know? I only worked with five NBA and three WNBA draft picks this year… 
be careful with that…do you take sole credit for their athletic prowess? It’s a fools folly to associate one’s athletes with their own abilities. I’m not saying you aren’t good…only that you are better than that (or I assumed so).
[quote]deadgame wrote:
be careful with that…do you take sole credit for their athletic prowess? It’s a fools folly to associate one’s athletes with their own abilities. I’m not saying you aren’t good…only that you are better than that (or I assumed so). [/quote]
Far from it. They put in all the work to get to where they are; I’m just one coach who helped along the way.
The statement was more of one to qualify me as having a perspective - one that those making gimmicks don’t seem to have. It’s no different than Dave Tate and Jim Wendler talking about how people who don’t lift are qualified to design gym equipment.
After all, they’re still promoting the shoes after this study came out in 1997:
[quote]deadgame wrote:
be careful with that…do you take sole credit for their athletic prowess? It’s a fools folly to associate one’s athletes with their own abilities. I’m not saying you aren’t good…only that you are better than that (or I assumed so). [/quote]
Just curious…was the “sole credit” comment a pun?
thanks a lot everybody. your input was very helpful. i’ve talked to people that swear by these things and say they have done nothing but hurt them so i wanted to see what you thought as well. i’ve had a full year to get stronger for basketball because of a transfering problem and this site has helped me put on 10lbs of muscles and 6 inches on my vertical already so thanks for that as well.