Juicers and Lying

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:

I am more than happy to call BS on the guys shooting up in the bathroom come on guys FFS I have used gyms that I know for sure at least 20 guys that are in there almost every day I know these guys juice, but they dont do it down the gym FFS. I am also confident on calling BS when Julie claimed to be able to deadlift over 415, I really do not think that someone with a serious inferiority complex that spends most of his time down his ‘hardcore’ gym worrying about what other people get up too.

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        sorry to burst your bubble in re to using at the gym but in a place that i used to live there was a gym that shit like that used to go on, was accepted as normal, guys with blood on there shorts, syringes in the toilets, it was a shooting gallery.
         these guys were just addicts, gave everyone else a bad name and you know the funny part was the vast majority were as weak as piss, both physically and mentally, i go along with the poster who stated that these guys give everyone else a bad name.
          current gym i train at is hardcore, pro's train there and there is no bs, guy who runs it tolerates no bullshit , makes a world of difference, as for Jc, get out of that enviorment, it will do you no favours at all.
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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
celibrate2047 wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
celibrate2047 wrote:
I like how Roth and Julius have the same exact ‘you evil steroid users’ attitude and then suddenly both of them change to the ‘I’ve suddenly become tolerant’ position a few posts from each other.

Is that a serious post? If it is, I suggest that you go to a community college and take a reading comprehension for retards class.

Yes it was a serious post. Both of you guys ranted and ranted and ranted about how those that do AAS are unfair to those who don’t and were just outright and blatantly disrespecting. And all of the sudden both of you change your point of view completely at the same time.

And by the way, I scored very high on my reading comprehension level in the English subject area exam for my teaching certification. Thanks. :slight_smile:

You’re a perfect example of why this country is full of functional illiterates. If you really could read, you would now that my beef wasn’t with juicers, but rather liars. Instead you are a teacher.
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Actually, I never said what your specific problem was with. What I noticed was how suddenly your attitude changed at the same time the other troll’s attitude changed. Maybe you’re the one that needs comprehension classes.

And I suppose that you never lie. I suppose you never embelish the truth. I also assume that you outright tell people that you think are juicing how you feel rather than just on a public forum where you aren’t face-to-face with others?

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After a brief time in thought, I have come to the conclusion that the juicers are wrong. Pure and simple. They are wrong in the same way that smokers are wrong. Aswell as those do any other stupid and obviously harmfull drugs or activitys dispite their knowledge of its dammaging effects to the body.

Sure, steroids can be done in a “smart” way that minimizes the negetive impact to the organs, but that doesn’t make it right. Steroids are a huge problem in the gyms these days. Recreational use is skyrocketing eack year. The reason for this is the general attitude being that if you pump iron, you should juice.“The icing on the cake” approach.

Juice is everywhere in sports and gyms today. People say “accept it and get over it”. You can say anything you want about how it’s your choice and none of anyone elses buisness what you do with yourself. You are right in tht respect, you have the ability to choose to be wrong. Do so, and suffer no guilt. Just don’t expect me or anyone else to respect you for it. That is all.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
After a brief time in thought, I have come to the conclusion that the juicers are wrong. Pure and simple. They are wrong in the same way that smokers are wrong. Aswell as those do any other stupid and obviously harmfull drugs or activitys dispite their knowledge of its dammaging effects to the body.

Sure, steroids can be done in a “smart” way that minimizes the negetive impact to the organs, but that doesn’t make it right. Steroids are a huge problem in the gyms these days. Recreational use is skyrocketing eack year. The reason for this is the general attitude being that if you pump iron, you should juice.“The icing on the cake” approach.

Juice is everywhere in sports and gyms today. People say “accept it and get over it”. You can say anything you want about how it’s your choice and none of anyone elses buisness what you do with yourself. You are right in tht respect, you have the ability to choose to be wrong. Do so, and suffer no guilt. Just don’t expect me or anyone else to respect you for it. That is all. [/quote]

Roar will be spending the rest of his life living in a cave eating food that he has collectd himself or hunted with sticks, on the days he is feeling hardcore he will not cook his meat. and in a total disregard for any other futue advances made by humans he will lift rocks and not wieghts.

Also is Roar gets sick he will not receive any medical help or take any medications that have been created by human advancement.

You see my point Roar, steriods are another advancement we have made and they are available to use the same as protien powders and supplements have become available in recent years.

The only real distinction you can make with steriods is that they are illegal (at least in our western countries) Who gives a fook what self serving dickhead polititions think? Do they always make the right descions for us all? NO

I respect your choice not to juice, but to come on to a steriod forum and bitch about it is just real lame, you don’t see me coming on to one of your James Blunt fan sites and bitching to you about how I hate James Blunt do ya?

Just get on with your own shit and don’t worry about other people, all that stressing it will fook your head up in end

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Ok… but how is it such a problem if people do it for themselves and it dosent effect anyone else at all?

It’s not cool labeling an idea as wrong because you disagree with some of the outcomes (sports?)

People should be allowed to choose what they do or don’t want in their body. smoking for example… its not right for the Government to force business owners to stop allowing smoking because some people don’t like it… If they don’t want to smell like smoke, go to a different place… you make the choice to either accept it or reject it just like steroids.

If you don’t agree with them that’s OK. But it’s not fair to get onto people because they don’t share that opinion.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
After a brief time in thought, I have come to the conclusion that the juicers are wrong. Pure and simple. They are wrong in the same way that smokers are wrong. Aswell as those do any other stupid and obviously harmfull drugs or activitys dispite their knowledge of its dammaging effects to the body.

Sure, steroids can be done in a “smart” way that minimizes the negetive impact to the organs, but that doesn’t make it right. Steroids are a huge problem in the gyms these days. Recreational use is skyrocketing eack year. The reason for this is the general attitude being that if you pump iron, you should juice.“The icing on the cake” approach.

Juice is everywhere in sports and gyms today. People say “accept it and get over it”. You can say anything you want about how it’s your choice and none of anyone elses buisness what you do with yourself. You are right in tht respect, you have the ability to choose to be wrong. Do so, and suffer no guilt. Just don’t expect me or anyone else to respect you for it. That is all. [/quote]

Full of hypocrisy. You know what’s wrong? Your holier-than-thou attitude.

Juice is a “problem” in the gym huh? How? I don’t know of anyone robbing and killing for 'roids. I don’t think it tears families apart. I’ve yet to see a steroid user on an episode of A&E’s “Intervention”.

Your argument doesn’t hold water. If you think it’s wrong, that’s cool. But don’t go telling others they’re wrong for engaging in a behavior that has absolutely ZERO impact on the way you live your life.

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Holy Mackerel! Someone shoot this thing!

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[quote]FCFighter wrote:

Full of hypocrisy. You know what’s wrong? Your holier-than-thou attitude.

Juice is a “problem” in the gym huh? How? I don’t know of anyone robbing and killing for 'roids. I don’t think it tears families apart. I’ve yet to see a steroid user on an episode of A&E’s “Intervention”.

LOL! You serious?

Your argument doesn’t hold water. If you think it’s wrong, that’s cool. But don’t go telling others they’re wrong for engaging in a behavior that has absolutely ZERO impact on the way you live your life.[/quote]

What argument “holds water” ? This argument like most, is based on opinion and as far as I know opinions don’t mean shit unless they are backed up by force of some kind. The reason I am telling others that they are wrong is because I have the right and ability to do so. Don’t get mad at me for exersising my freedom of speech. It’s only a messege board, if you dont like what

I have to say, dont read it, and more importantly dont respond. All you are doing is making me laugh at how flustered and angery all the juicers are getting. If juicers really were secure in their descisions about doing roids, they wouldn’t feel the need to defend themseves from a “skinny ignorant sheit” like myself.

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[quote]Guilo wrote:
Ok… but how is it such a problem if people do it for themselves and it dosent effect anyone else at all?

It’s not cool labeling an idea as wrong because you disagree with some of the outcomes (sports?)

People should be allowed to choose what they do or don’t want in their body. smoking for example… its not right for the Government to force business owners to stop allowing smoking because some people don’t like it… If they don’t want to smell like smoke, go to a different place… you make the choice to either accept it or reject it just like steroids.

If you don’t agree with them that’s OK. But it’s not fair to get onto people because they don’t share that opinion.[/quote]

Don’t get me started on smoking.

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:

Roar will be spending the rest of his life living in a cave eating food that he has collectd himself or hunted with sticks, on the days he is feeling hardcore he will not cook his meat. and in a total disregard for any other futue advances made by humans he will lift rocks and not wieghts.

Also is Roar gets sick he will not receive any medical help or take any medications that have been created by human advancement.

If only it were that simple.

You call these things “advancements” I call them weakening and destructive to the human race and eventually the worlds entire bio diversity.

Just get on with your own shit and don’t worry about other people, all that stressing it will fook your head up in end

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There will always be those who shy away from confrontation. Those who let that which causes trouble to trouble others beyond them. There are matters worthy of argument, and conflict. I am not one of those who lets the enemy snub me as they cross the street to infect my brothers and sisters with their deceptions. We all choose our battles for one reason or another. That is all.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
electric_eales wrote:

Roar will be spending the rest of his life living in a cave eating food that he has collectd himself or hunted with sticks, on the days he is feeling hardcore he will not cook his meat. and in a total disregard for any other futue advances made by humans he will lift rocks and not wieghts.

Also is Roar gets sick he will not receive any medical help or take any medications that have been created by human advancement.

If only it were that simple.

You see my point Roar, steriods are another advancement we have made and they are available to use the same as protien powders and supplements have become available in recent years.

You call these things “advancements” I call them weakening and destructive to the human race and eventually the worlds entire bio diversity.

The only real distinction you can make with steriods is that they are illegal (at least in our western countries) Who gives a fook what self serving dickhead polititions think? Do they always make the right descions for us all? NO

I don’t care if it’s illeagal or not.
I don’t care about polititions. The only thing that gives men of power their power is their pansifying pistols.

I respect your choice not to juice, but to come on to a steriod forum and bitch about it is just real lame, you don’t see me coming on to one of your James Blunt fan sites and bitching to you about how I hate James Blunt do ya?

who the fuck is james blunt?

I didn’t come here to earn your respect, it’s worthless. “I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. But I’m all outta bubble gum.”

Just get on with your own shit and don’t worry about other people, all that stressing it will fook your head up in end

There will always be those who shy away from confrontation. Those who let that which causes trouble to trouble others beyond them. There are matters worthy of argument, and conflict. I am not one of those who lets the enemy snub me as they cross the street to infect my brothers and sisters with their deceptions. We all choose our battles for one reason or another. That is all.
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OK well good luck with your internet crusade, you are a very brave man

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[quote]B415 wrote:

cheat curl I don’t really see maxing out on a cheat curl having any benifits, strict curl 135 for 5
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135lbs?! WOAHH DB?
i’m feeling really weak today :\

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
People with no lives of their own will always stick their noses in where they’re not wanted :frowning:
bushy[/quote]

sad but true…

envy and jealousy are the poisons of human soul…

and… there are also the “wannabe” who would but can’t… and then “envy”

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
FCFighter wrote:

Full of hypocrisy. You know what’s wrong? Your holier-than-thou attitude.

Juice is a “problem” in the gym huh? How? I don’t know of anyone robbing and killing for 'roids. I don’t think it tears families apart. I’ve yet to see a steroid user on an episode of A&E’s “Intervention”.

LOL! You serious?

Your argument doesn’t hold water. If you think it’s wrong, that’s cool. But don’t go telling others they’re wrong for engaging in a behavior that has absolutely ZERO impact on the way you live your life.

What argument “holds water” ? This argument like most, is based on opinion and as far as I know opinions don’t mean shit unless they are backed up by force of some kind. The reason I am telling others that they are wrong is because I have the right and ability to do so. Don’t get mad at me for exersising my freedom of speech. It’s only a messege board, if you dont like what

I have to say, dont read it, and more importantly dont respond. All you are doing is making me laugh at how flustered and angery all the juicers are getting. If juicers really were secure in their descisions about doing roids, they wouldn’t feel the need to defend themseves from a “skinny ignorant sheit” like myself.
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Okay. You’re right. I’ve seen the error of my ways.

People that take juice to enhance themselves not only physically, but mentally also; to have a better quality of life; to have an optimal experience in the VERY SHORT PERIOD we’re here on this planet…well, are just plain wrong.

My apologies, sir.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
I have to say, dont read it, and more importantly dont respond. All you are doing is making me laugh at how flustered and angery all the juicers are getting. If juicers really were secure in their descisions about doing roids, they wouldn’t feel the need to defend themseves from a “skinny ignorant sheit” like myself.
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so, the same for you. If you are so secure in your decisions why you feel the need to defend yourself from the roid-raged-lyers?

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[quote]cadav wrote:
I have to say, dont read it, and more importantly dont respond. All you are doing is making me laugh at how flustered and angery all the juicers are getting. If juicers really were secure in their descisions about doing roids, they wouldn’t feel the need to defend themseves from a “skinny ignorant sheit” like myself.
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When the dog comes into the livingroom and takes a shit on the carpet - I tend to get upset. Why? The dog has a right - nay, a need - to take a shit. If I don’t want to see it, or smell it, I guess I should just look the other way.

You are the dog shitting on the carpet.

You are irritating, and really need to have your nose rubbed in your pile of dung.

And to come into my living room and tell me that I am harming myself while you are straining to pinch off that last loaf proves you are indeed way more full of shit than you are knowledge.

I would just like you to list 3 things that I must be suffering from since making a choice to take AAS.

I fear you wold rather shit in the living room and play with your shit than actually have to answer a question.

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They lie because being on roids is a lie to begin with.