Juicers and Lying

Pharma / TRT
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to the haters…

steroid use is icing on the cake…not the cake itself. fools that use it as a shortcut to get “hyuuuge” quick do not have the know-how training or nutrition wise to make lasting, maintainable gains. they either look like the average joe…or blow up quick and lose it quick.

either way, these jackasses don’t have what it takes to be successful in building strength, or a physique, with or without help. the bros on this forum generally do not fall into that category…so arguing it here is a moot point.

you do not jam a needle in your ass and instantly go from bruce banner to the hulk in the blink of an eye…it requires the exact same effort and discipline as any other serious trainee would put in. you don’t take AAS, sit on the couch all day, go do a few sets of curls and magically become swolezilla.

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Why is it anyone’s business what I do, whether I juice, or not?

Why does anyone have the fucking right to tell me what I should or should not be happy with?

The poster that said the bullshit about “everyone should be happy…” should get a fucking clue that he is not God. Ignorance does not give you the right to tell me what I should or shouldn’t do. Why is it any of your fucking business?

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[quote]

I’m sure you’re also one of those guys that claims that they wouldn’t be able to get it up if a fake set of DDs was in their face.

There is NO argument that you’re a skinny fucking troll. Go back to the Men’s Health forum, you little shite. [/quote]

LOL! Someone bit my line and is now flopping in the boat. You can try and tell me that I’m a skinny troll, You might belive it yourself, but that would just proove my point. You gearheads are soo full of your own moral excrement that You would belive a lean 200 at 5’11 is skinny.

Thats no different than an anorexic/belemic thinking shes fat. You go /wrists you insecure emo juicer. Whats next? You gonna ask me where I live so you can come show me the might of the roid rage? OOOHH!!!

You and your kind are pathetic. I own you. That is all.

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[quote]juice20jd wrote:
to the haters…

steroid use is icing on the cake…not the cake itself. fools that use it as a shortcut to get “hyuuuge” quick do not have the know-how training or nutrition wise to make lasting, maintainable gains. they either look like the average joe…or blow up quick and lose it quick.

either way, these jackasses don’t have what it takes to be successful in building strength, or a physique, with or without help. the bros on this forum generally do not fall into that category…so arguing it here is a moot point.

you do not jam a needle in your ass and instantly go from bruce banner to the hulk in the blink of an eye…it requires the exact same effort and discipline as any other serious trainee would put in. you don’t take AAS, sit on the couch all day, go do a few sets of curls and magically become swolezilla.

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Doesnt matter, the point is you don’t need steroids to build a great phisique, nor to gain phenominal strength. THose that choose to take the “icing” are just feeding the corruption of what was once a pure and wonderful sport.

The bottom line is, Juicers are followers. You have to juice to survive in pro bb these days. Yet instead of people obliterating the use of cheats, they want to be bigger, stronger and faster than the next guy and will do anything it takes to get there.

Vanity is the only reason for steroids in an already vane sport.

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
trojanman wrote:
As long as they give steroids a good name, more power to them! God, I hate America! Can’t a man just take 2 cc’s up the ass without someone else telling him improving himself is wrong?

People could at least be honest about it. If you are going to juice, juice, but don’t lie and say that your prodigous lifts are “natural.”

Why are so many juicers so full of shit? From Barry Bonds to the gym rats, they shoot shit in their asses and claim to be “natural.”

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Gee, I wonder if it could be cuz it’s illegal? Probably not the brightest idea to go around flaunting your thus -far successful law breaking. Kind of like I dont tell anyone about that hobo I killed back in '89. … uh-oh

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Why is it anyone’s business what I do, whether I juice, or not?

Why does anyone have the fucking right to tell me what I should or should not be happy with?

The poster that said the bullshit about “everyone should be happy…” should get a fucking clue that he is not God. Ignorance does not give you the right to tell me what I should or shouldn’t do. Why is it any of your fucking business?

[/quote]

This is exactly what Im talking about. Why would someone like you be offended by some “skinny troll” like myself? Why do you care? I have a clue. I’m not god. Niether is any gearhead who walks into a gym and roars after a 800pound squat that he couldn’t do without the help of steroids.

And I’ll tell you why it’s my fucking buisness. Because I have to train on the same equipment with you, I have to fight in the same ring with you and I have to play on the same feild as you. If I didn’t have to hear about how great you did, or how huge and awsome you were I wouldn’t care.

But the fact is, you are a juicer, I am a natural if we were to compete do you think it would be fair?

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You sure talk a lot of shit for having only joined just yesterday. To answer your question, if we were to compete, no amount of gear would prevent you from getting bitch slapped.

[quote]Roargathor wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Why is it anyone’s business what I do, whether I juice, or not?

Why does anyone have the fucking right to tell me what I should or should not be happy with?

The poster that said the bullshit about “everyone should be happy…” should get a fucking clue that he is not God. Ignorance does not give you the right to tell me what I should or shouldn’t do. Why is it any of your fucking business?

This is exactly what Im talking about. Why would someone like you be offended by some “skinny troll” like myself? Why do you care? I have a clue. I’m not god. Niether is any gearhead who walks into a gym and roars after a 800pound squat that he couldn’t do without the help of steroids.

And I’ll tell you why it’s my fucking buisness. Because I have to train on the same equipment with you, I have to fight in the same ring with you and I have to play on the same feild as you. If I didn’t have to hear about how great you did, or how huge and awsome you were I wouldn’t care.

But the fact is, you are a juicer, I am a natural if we were to compete do you think it would be fair? [/quote]

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
This is exactly what Im talking about. Why would someone like you be offended by some “skinny troll” like myself? Why do you care? I have a clue. I’m not god. Niether is any gearhead who walks into a gym and roars after a 800pound squat that he couldn’t do without the help of steroids. [/quote]

You ignorance of both me, and the subject at hand is the very reason I am offended.

Please show me where I called you a “skinny troll”. I never did. That maybe what others think of you - but you are just a prick to me. You could be a big prick, or a little prick. I could honestly care less.

I train alone. I train alone in a town of less than 700 people. I have my own equipment in the warehouse behind my office. No one ever comes in where I am training. If I “roar” I am the only one that hears it.

You are an ignorant little bigoted fuck.

Once again - your ignorance is exceeded only by your inability to see past your own prejudice. I seriously doubt that if I were to train in your gym I would go anywhere near the equipment that you would be using.

Once again - your blatant ignorance is blaring louder than your whining. I don’t compete. And who gives a fuck about “fair” except the fucking losers that are more concerned with a level playing field than the game.

I never saw a bottle of tren hit a home run. I even took a bottle to the batting cage. I went 27-30. The best the tren could manage was 8-30.

Seriously. You know nothing about the lifestyle. You offend me by assuming you know me when you know nothing other than the small little world your mother lets you run around in.

Additionally, this is the steroid forum. You will be flamed like a cheap, greasy steak for telling people that they are cheating - especially when it is proven that you have no clue how wrong your little biases are.

And proud ignorance such as yours deserves no mercy.

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it seems you have quite an internal issue you need to work on. go ahead be proud of your naturalness. so someone lies about doing something illegal.

would you tell someone you fucked a 16 year old girl in her ass? would you tell someone you stole six thousand dollars from your company’s funds? would you tell someone you destroyed your car for insurance purposes? to each his own. no one is perfect. people who juice all have different reasons.

people who juice also have different reasons why they wont tell you certain things.how you would like to feel being put on the spot about a topic that is being attacked from every corner of our damn country every day and night?

so how about it man, you fuck any underage teens lately julius?

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:

I’m sure you’re also one of those guys that claims that they wouldn’t be able to get it up if a fake set of DDs was in their face.

There is NO argument that you’re a skinny fucking troll. Go back to the Men’s Health forum, you little shite.

LOL! Someone bit my line and is now flopping in the boat. You can try and tell me that I’m a skinny troll, You might belive it yourself, but that would just proove my point. You gearheads are soo full of your own moral excrement that You would belive a lean 200 at 5’11 is skinny.

Thats no different than an anorexic/belemic thinking shes fat. You go /wrists you insecure emo juicer. Whats next? You gonna ask me where I live so you can come show me the might of the roid rage? OOOHH!!!

You and your kind are pathetic. I own you. That is all. [/quote]

Forgive me for assuming that someone who signed up yesterday and immediately started ranting about the evils of steroids is a skinny bastard. For the record, my internet dick is 2’ long… but my camera is broken.

I’ve never used steroids, and at 200lbs at 6’, I wouldn’t consider myself much more than ‘no longer skinny’… I don’t know what you’re so proud about. It’s not that I have a flawed self-image or am insecure, I just have a higher goal that will take time and hard work to reach.

You obviously have a lot of emotional baggage wrapped up in steroids creating unlevel playing fields. Of course steroids create an unlevel playing field, but not everyone that uses steroids competes – so it’s none of your business if a recreational bodybuilder or powerlifter decides to inject.

There are a couple of guys at my gym on HRT that have physiques that I will easily surpass naturally, so obviously hard work is a factor in getting results. You act as if the results are 100% from steroids, but this just isn’t the case and shows how closed minded you really are on the issue.

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rainjack, i dont know if its some estrogen kicking in but that last post of yours made me damn near cry. well its off to grow now. the bed that is.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
juice20jd wrote:
to the haters…

steroid use is icing on the cake…not the cake itself. fools that use it as a shortcut to get “hyuuuge” quick do not have the know-how training or nutrition wise to make lasting, maintainable gains. they either look like the average joe…or blow up quick and lose it quick.

either way, these jackasses don’t have what it takes to be successful in building strength, or a physique, with or without help. the bros on this forum generally do not fall into that category…so arguing it here is a moot point.

you do not jam a needle in your ass and instantly go from bruce banner to the hulk in the blink of an eye…it requires the exact same effort and discipline as any other serious trainee would put in. you don’t take AAS, sit on the couch all day, go do a few sets of curls and magically become swolezilla.

Doesnt matter, the point is you don’t need steroids to build a great phisique, nor to gain phenominal strength. THose that choose to take the “icing” are just feeding the corruption of what was once a pure and wonderful sport.

The bottom line is, Juicers are followers. You have to juice to survive in pro bb these days. Yet instead of people obliterating the use of cheats, they want to be bigger, stronger and faster than the next guy and will do anything it takes to get there.

Vanity is the only reason for steroids in an already vane sport. [/quote]

well, arguing against an ignorant man, is fighting a losing battle…you sir are very ignorant…and lack the base fundamentals required to have an educated opinion because you allow personal bias and/or insecurity to shrink your cognitive ability down to that of the household dog.

while you’re crusading to clean up the sports universe of “cheats” and abusers…take some time to cure aids, cancer and create world peace for all…self righteous bitch. fuck you…

buh bye

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[quote]juice20jd wrote:

well, arguing against an ignorant man, is fighting a losing battle…you sir are very ignorant…and lack the base fundamentals required to have an educated opinion because you allow personal bias and/or insecurity to shrink your cognitive ability down to that of the household dog.

while you’re crusading to clean up the sports universe of “cheats” and abusers…take some time to cure aids, cancer and create world peace for all…self righteous bitch. fuck you…

buh bye

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Umm, yes, I think that my origional post well established that I was biased. Insecure no, not at all, in fact I am soo secure with myself that I openly express my opinions and moral stances without fear of prosecution or attack from those I aim to thwart.

But as for your feeble attempt to undermine my “self righteousness” Why on earth would I want to cure aids or cancer or create world peace? Do you have any idea of what that would do to the population?

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[quote]AgentOrange wrote:
Roargathor wrote:

Forgive me for assuming that someone who signed up yesterday and immediately started ranting about the evils of steroids is a skinny bastard. For the record, my internet dick is 2’ long… but my camera is broken.

I’ve never used steroids, and at 200lbs at 6’, I wouldn’t consider myself much more than ‘no longer skinny’… I don’t know what you’re so proud about. It’s not that I have a flawed self-image or am insecure, I just have a higher goal that will take time and hard work to reach.

You obviously have a lot of emotional baggage wrapped up in steroids creating unlevel playing fields. Of course steroids create an unlevel playing field, but not everyone that uses steroids competes – so it’s none of your business if a recreational bodybuilder or powerlifter decides to inject.

There are a couple of guys at my gym on HRT that have physiques that I will easily surpass naturally, so obviously hard work is a factor in getting results. You act as if the results are 100% from steroids, but this just isn’t the case and shows how closed minded you really are on the issue.[/quote]

There is nothing you or any juicer can say to defend agaisnt the pure and simple fact that steroids make a huge difference in performance and recovery. This fact is the basis of my argument. Without steroids juicers would not be as strong or as big, at least not as quick as if they were using.

As for me being ignorant, What are you talking about how and I being ignorant? What else is there to know? Is there some doctrine that says steroids are a perfectly viable and accepted method of self betterment? Please all knowing wise juicer enlighten me so that I may become further cultured in the ways of steroids and their moral standing in society today.

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[quote]Roargathor wrote:
Insecure no, not at all, in fact I am soo secure with myself that I openly express my opinions and moral stances without fear of prosecution or attack from those I aim to thwart.
[/quote]

Of course you aren’t worried about prosecution or attack, its a simple formula…

Internet + Anonymity = Douche Bag

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
THose that choose to take the “icing” are just feeding the corruption of what was once a pure and wonderful sport.

“Pure and wonderful sport”??? HOHOHOHO, thats classic boooolsheeeyit ! Ever since the dawn of time, sportsmen have tried to gain an advantage over their competitors. That’s because they are competitive individuals who want to win.

Christ, the ancient Greeks used to eat bulls testicles and drink stallion piss to TRY AND BOOST THEIR TESTOSTERONE. Of course they didn’t call it ‘testosterone’ back then, but thats not the point. Today we have the benefit of modern chemistry.

Personally, I can’t see much difference between someone who can afford to be trained by an elite level coach using all the latest training methods Vs some poor schmoe who has to train himself against someone who chooses to use steroids?

WHo’s cheating? The guy with the coach? After all he’s the one who has more advantages over the other two…Hmmmmm, why don’t you think about that for a moment…?[/quote]

You are misisng the point. People are stupid and do evil things to them selves and others in the name of glory and vanity. Steroids are just a tool for that evil. THe person who uses them sets the competetive bar higher artificially and in turn others must do them to stand on even ground. But who cares… We’re all gonna get older and die right?

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[quote]B415 wrote:

I don’t have a needle sticking out of my ass, not that it really matters I just don’t. If you had taken the time to actually read my post you would know that I’ve used ph’s and SD. Now I haven’t taken SD in over ten months and I never got any stronger than I had naturally and at a lighter weight.

As for you being stronger than me it is possible but highly unlikely. I stated I don’t like to go over those weights and don’t so those are the numbers I do a few strict reps at, even though I could do much much more. I just find going heavier on my lower body to be to taxing with all of the different sports I play.

Now I have read enough of your posts to know you have little mans disease so you will just come back and insult me in some way because it’s the only way you can run your mouth and not get bitch slapped. I do have to thank you; I haven’t laughed his hard in a long time.
I think everyone who reads any of your posts will see why your “friends” didn’t tell you what they were doing. [/quote]

Look needle dick, I already told you that I don’t train for size, what is so hard about that for you to comprehend?

The way you act, you would think that you are fucking Ronnie Coleman or something, you are not even that big either. And for a juicer your lifts are nothing to brag about either and don’t use the lame-o excuse that your being chief of the womans softball league and pocket pool club stops you from going heavy.

And another thing… Do you really think that just because you are bigger than someone that you can “kick their ass”? If so, you must not have been in too many fist fights.

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[quote]pankie wrote:
it seems you have quite an internal issue you need to work on. go ahead be proud of your naturalness. so someone lies about doing something illegal.

would you tell someone you fucked a 16 year old girl in her ass? would you tell someone you stole six thousand dollars from your company’s funds? would you tell someone you destroyed your car for insurance purposes? to each his own. no one is perfect. people who juice all have different reasons.

people who juice also have different reasons why they wont tell you certain things.how you would like to feel being put on the spot about a topic that is being attacked from every corner of our damn country every day and night?

so how about it man, you fuck any underage teens lately julius? [/quote]

For one I am not a fucking pedophile. Secondly I don’t ride on the hershey highway.

If the people who had just lied to me had done so because it was illegal this I could see. It is just when people specifically tell you that they are natural when boasting about strength feats done under this false pretense that pisses me off.