If someone off the street asked if you had some coke or could buy some off of you would you be comfy telling him??
This is how it is for me. I wouldn’t care if people knew that I used AAS other than the fact they are ILLEGAL.
Monopoly
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
B415 wrote:
Its skinny little fucks like you that come up to me and ask what I take to get strong. I give them the old eat right and take creatine/glutamine once in a while.
Really? Why don’t you tell me what sort of weights that you work with and your bodyweight? [/quote] 207 ~15%bf[quote]
What do you pull[/quote]I don’t like to go that much over 415. Now that I’ve been using a hex bar to do deads I will start going heavy.[quote], press [/quote] pr is 415 and I did that at 195 [quote], squat [/quote] Again I don’t like to go over 415 Old hamstring injury, leg sled 900 for sets of 12 [quote], cheat curl [/quote] I don’t really see maxing out on a cheat curl having any benifits[quote], strict curl [/quote] 135 for 5[quote] ? How many chins can you do [/quote] Skinny guy question. Um 5 reps wityh 90 lbs hanging off my dick. [quote] ? Can you do a weighted chin up and if so with what weight? What do you do for a standing military press? [/quote] I see a lot of guys do push presses and call them standing military presses so I’ve done seated military presses with 225 for reps of ~6. I don’t like to do heavy oh pressing any more. I do a slight incline with 100 lbs DB’s for 8s. I don’t really care if you find the above weights impressive or not. I believe it is how much progress someone makes that is impressive.
Most little guys that get pissed and call steroids are just punks that don’t have what it takes to put the time in or the intelegence to even know how to put the time in. I know there are some people that just will never get big with steroids and that’s ok. The question is how the fuck is that my fault? You’re just jealous of guys that have atained some size and you hate it, so you want to transfer your inferior feelings onto them so you can feel like you think the other people feel when they talk to you.
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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
alownage wrote:
They lie cuz it’s fucking illegal?
The same reason any other kind of drug user lies about using. As has been said, there’s a huge stigma attached to drug use of any kind, and admitting that they use could get them in trouble (especially true with all baseball players.)
But here’s the thing: Almost anyone will admit to smoking pot, if you know them within a short period of time.
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So what? I smoke too. You’ll get in a whole lot less trouble with pot than you will with roids. Its about a MILLION times easier to hide and conceal.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
But here’s the thing: Almost anyone will admit to smoking pot, if you know them within a short period of time.
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Most people of the baby-boom generation on have tried weed. The stigma isn’t near as bad with people who have actually tried it. If the majority of people had used AAS, likewise they wouldn’t be quite so demonised and subject to myth either.
I wouldn’t admit to having smoked weed to someone who had never done it and still believed in reefer madness and such crap. You need to remember your audience when choosing your words.
[quote]B415 wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
B415 wrote:
Its skinny little fucks like you that come up to me and ask what I take to get strong. I give them the old eat right and take creatine/glutamine once in a while.
Really? Why don’t you tell me what sort of weights that you work with and your bodyweight? 207 ~15%bf
What do you pullI don’t like to go that much over 415. Now that I’ve been using a hex bar to do deads I will start going heavy., press pr is 415 and I did that at 195 , squat Again I don’t like to go over 415 Old hamstring injury, leg sled 900 for sets of 12 , cheat curl I don’t really see maxing out on a cheat curl having any benifits, strict curl 135 for 5 ? How many chins can you do Skinny guy question. Um 5 reps wityh 90 lbs hanging off my dick. ? Can you do a weighted chin up and if so with what weight? What do you do for a standing military press? I see a lot of guys do push presses and call them standing military presses so I’ve done seated military presses with 225 for reps of ~6. I don’t like to do heavy oh pressing any more. I do a slight incline with 100 lbs DB’s for 8s. I don’t really care if you find the above weights impressive or not. I believe it is how much progress someone makes that is impressive.
Most little guys that get pissed and call steroids are just punks that don’t have what it takes to put the time in or the intelegence to even know how to put the time in. I know there are some people that just will never get big with steroids and that’s ok. The question is how the fuck is that my fault? You’re just jealous of guys that have atained some size and you hate it, so you want to transfer your inferior feelings onto them so you can feel like you think the other people feel when they talk to you.
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You’re right, I am not impressed by your lifts especially since you have a needle sticking out of your ass. I can even deadlift more than you and I weight less than you plus no juice so put that in yer pipe and puff on it. Imagine that! Being out pulled by someone who is natural and smaller than you.
You would be the last needle dick who I would be asking shit about “being strong.” Your bench for a juicer is nothing to brag about either.
Oh yeah and I don’t bodybuild either as I am more into strength stuff.
[quote]
You’re right, I am not impressed by your lifts especially since you have a needle sticking out of your ass. I can even deadlift more than you and I weight less than you plus no juice so put that in yer pipe and puff on it. Imagine that! Being out pulled by someone who is natural and smaller than you.
You would be the last needle dick who I would be asking shit about “being strong.” Your bench for a juicer is nothing to brag about either.
Oh yeah and I don’t bodybuild either as I am more into strength stuff.[/quote]
I think you just answered your own question.
It is pretty clear why people would not tell you whether they were using AAS or not.
You are an insecure, ignorant and very anxious boy.
Try forgetting about what others are up to, becasue i can GUARANTEE you they dont give a fuck about what you’ve got going on.
Especially with that type of argumentative type of confrontational bullshit.
Stop now, this thread has been answered by the same dick that started it.
I honestly didn’t think soo many of you were so missguided about steroids. You’d think by now everyone who pumps iron seriously, would know the difference between right and wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble juicers, but there are few grey areas in life, and steroid use is definatly NOT one of them.
Steroids are for the weak. Pure and simple. You all know who you are. Those people who are insecure with themselves and unsatisfied with what nature gave them. If one person in the gym juices, the competetive nature of others tempts them to follow. Pro sports have been corrupted by steroids this is a fact. If life is a game, then steroids are cheat codes. I say this because men are born with testicles, and they should be enough to provide gains is strength and size adiquate for any reasonable athlete. Those of you who would call me “uneducated” are only fooling yourselves. Many of you have become soo good at lying to yourselves that you belive anything you tell yourself is right. To those people I can only say that you are lost and hopeless, enjoy all that the juice has given you, for when you stop using they will take it all back. It makes no difference if you have taken one cycle or 50, you still did stereoids. Stand behind your decision to be fake, even if its just for that one cycle. Know that what you lifted was not just you. It was you on steroids.
"Who the fuck is this to be so high and mighty" you might ask. I'll tell you. When I started lifting 4 years ago, I was 150 lbs, at 5'11 thats not allot of muscle. I tried many different workouts, did allot of resurch, learned how a body works and disspelled allot of bullshit that you read in muscle mags (steroid manuals) and steadily became 200 lbs, still not impressive next to a juicer, but I know that what I have is all mine. Juicers cannot say that about their gains. They can lift more than me, they can be more ripped than me, even when eating shit. But they are not pure. They are not natural, and they do not deserve my respect. Besides I work harder than most juicers in the gym, not as often, because I cannot recover as fast as a juicer. Being natural I have to be smarter about lifting. I can't just go to the gym 6 days a week and get a pump in a different muscle group while I chew no2 gum and think about what im going to stack next cycle. I have to plan things better and listen to my body. Juicers are impatient and insecure and unlike a juicer, SELF RESPECT is something I value more than being able to bench 400 pounds. One day maybe I'll get there, but if I do it's all me. That is all.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
I honestly didn’t think soo many of you were so missguided about steroids. You’d think by now everyone who pumps iron seriously, would know the difference between right and wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble juicers, but there are few grey areas in life, and steroid use is definatly NOT one of them.
Steroids are for the weak. Pure and simple. You all know who you are. Those people who are insecure with themselves and unsatisfied with what nature gave them. If one person in the gym juices, the competetive nature of others tempts them to follow. Pro sports have been corrupted by steroids this is a fact. If life is a game, then steroids are cheat codes. I say this because men are born with testicles, and they should be enough to provide gains is strength and size adiquate for any reasonable athlete. Those of you who would call me “uneducated” are only fooling yourselves. Many of you have become soo good at lying to yourselves that you belive anything you tell yourself is right. To those people I can only say that you are lost and hopeless, enjoy all that the juice has given you, for when you stop using they will take it all back. It makes no difference if you have taken one cycle or 50, you still did stereoids. Stand behind your decision to be fake, even if its just for that one cycle. Know that what you lifted was not just you. It was you on steroids.
"Who the fuck is this to be so high and mighty" you might ask. I'll tell you. When I started lifting 4 years ago, I was 150 lbs, at 5'11 thats not allot of muscle. I tried many different workouts, did allot of resurch, learned how a body works and disspelled allot of bullshit that you read in muscle mags (steroid manuals) and steadily became 200 lbs, still not impressive next to a juicer, but I know that what I have is all mine. Juicers cannot say that about their gains. They can lift more than me, they can be more ripped than me, even when eating shit. But they are not pure. They are not natural, and they do not deserve my respect. Besides I work harder than most juicers in the gym, not as often, because I cannot recover as fast as a juicer. Being natural I have to be smarter about lifting. I can't just go to the gym 6 days a week and get a pump in a different muscle group while I chew no2 gum and think about what im going to stack next cycle. I have to plan things better and listen to my body. Juicers are impatient and insecure and unlike a juicer, SELF RESPECT is something I value more than being able to bench 400 pounds. One day maybe I'll get there, but if I do it's all me. That is all. [/quote]
You had a few decent points i would have conceded, (if not directly, then they are transferable to other areas of lifes choices and good to reflect on true motives etc… i like presonal growth)
…until your last paragraph, then you stuttered as the bullshit was flowing from your mouth.
Where the hell did you come from anyway? first post and a completely ignorant and biased one at that.
Enjoy, i’m only the first to respond.
I like guys like you. Please stay and argue your points, its entertaining and as sound as it may seem at first, you will soon be talking in circles and be covered in shit again.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
I honestly didn’t think soo many of you were so missguided about steroids. You’d think by now everyone who pumps iron seriously, would know the difference between right and wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble juicers, but there are few grey areas in life, and steroid use is definatly NOT one of them.
Steroids are for the weak. Pure and simple. You all know who you are. Those people who are insecure with themselves and unsatisfied with what nature gave them. If one person in the gym juices, the competetive nature of others tempts them to follow. Pro sports have been corrupted by steroids this is a fact. If life is a game, then steroids are cheat codes. I say this because men are born with testicles, and they should be enough to provide gains is strength and size adiquate for any reasonable athlete. Those of you who would call me “uneducated” are only fooling yourselves. Many of you have become soo good at lying to yourselves that you belive anything you tell yourself is right. To those people I can only say that you are lost and hopeless, enjoy all that the juice has given you, for when you stop using they will take it all back. It makes no difference if you have taken one cycle or 50, you still did stereoids. Stand behind your decision to be fake, even if its just for that one cycle. Know that what you lifted was not just you. It was you on steroids.
"Who the fuck is this to be so high and mighty" you might ask. I'll tell you. When I started lifting 4 years ago, I was 150 lbs, at 5'11 thats not allot of muscle. I tried many different workouts, did allot of resurch, learned how a body works and disspelled allot of bullshit that you read in muscle mags (steroid manuals) and steadily became 200 lbs, still not impressive next to a juicer, but I know that what I have is all mine. Juicers cannot say that about their gains. They can lift more than me, they can be more ripped than me, even when eating shit. But they are not pure. They are not natural, and they do not deserve my respect. Besides I work harder than most juicers in the gym, not as often, because I cannot recover as fast as a juicer. Being natural I have to be smarter about lifting. I can't just go to the gym 6 days a week and get a pump in a different muscle group while I chew no2 gum and think about what im going to stack next cycle. I have to plan things better and listen to my body. Juicers are impatient and insecure and unlike a juicer, SELF RESPECT is something I value more than being able to bench 400 pounds. One day maybe I'll get there, but if I do it's all me. That is all. [/quote]
mmmmm
back to the resurch methinks
[quote]violatepropriety wrote:
I think you just answered your own question.
It is pretty clear why people would not tell you whether they were using AAS or not.
You are an insecure, ignorant and very anxious boy.
Try forgetting about what others are up to, becasue i can GUARANTEE you they dont give a fuck about what you’ve got going on.
Especially with that type of argumentative type of confrontational bullshit.
Stop now, this thread has been answered by the same dick that started it.[/quote]
Actually a few juicers have been impressed by how strong I am for my size, so you are wrong. I was not the one who started with the insults either.
Look I don’t care if you and needle dick go shoot up together, suck each others cocks or go toss off to the latest issue of Flex. What bothers me is when people lie in order to act like they are benching 455 natural when in fact they have been juicing for 6 years.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
violatepropriety wrote:
I think you just answered your own question.
It is pretty clear why people would not tell you whether they were using AAS or not.
You are an insecure, ignorant and very anxious boy.
Try forgetting about what others are up to, becasue i can GUARANTEE you they dont give a fuck about what you’ve got going on.
Especially with that type of argumentative type of confrontational bullshit.
Stop now, this thread has been answered by the same dick that started it.
Actually a few juicers have been impressed by how strong I am for my size, so you are wrong. I was not the one who started with the insults either.
Look I don’t care if you and needle dick go shoot up together, suck each others cocks or go toss off to the latest issue of Flex. What bothers me is when people lie in order to act like they are benching 455 natural when in fact they have been juicing for 6 years.
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HAHA, that was funny.
Now i dont have to tell you or anybody else whether i juice or not, none of your business, but gassed or not, you go around making comments like that in front of me, and you wont be lifting anything anytime soon.
Now stop whining about whos on and whos not, and stop projecting your gay activities from your future onto me.
Do a cycle already. And get a boyfriend or something.
JC, you have pretty much answered your own question. The reason users don’t just come out and say it is because there are sites like this and people like you.
[quote]violatepropriety wrote:
HAHA, that was funny.
Now i dont have to tell you or anybody else whether i juice or not, none of your business, but gassed or not, you go around making comments like that in front of me, and you wont be lifting anything anytime soon.
Now stop whining about whos on and whos not, and stop projecting your gay activities from your future onto me.
Do a cycle already. And get a boyfriend or something.
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No way I am content being natural.
This would have to be one of the most misguided and ignorant posts I have ever read on T-Nation. According to the argument below, everyone should be happy with the level of steroids their body provides naturally (yes, Roargathor, testosterone is a steroid). Or is there a level of natural steroid production below which it is OK to supplement your natural levels? (Eg via HRT) If not, why not? and if so, who determines what the appropriate level is? Perhaps Roargathor could let us have the benefit of his wisdom on this issue.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
I honestly didn’t think soo many of you were so missguided about steroids. You’d think by now everyone who pumps iron seriously, would know the difference between right and wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble juicers, but there are few grey areas in life, and steroid use is definatly NOT one of them.
Steroids are for the weak. Pure and simple. You all know who you are. Those people who are insecure with themselves and unsatisfied with what nature gave them. If one person in the gym juices, the competetive nature of others tempts them to follow. Pro sports have been corrupted by steroids this is a fact. If life is a game, then steroids are cheat codes. I say this because men are born with testicles, and they should be enough to provide gains is strength and size adiquate for any reasonable athlete. Those of you who would call me “uneducated” are only fooling yourselves. Many of you have become soo good at lying to yourselves that you belive anything you tell yourself is right. To those people I can only say that you are lost and hopeless, enjoy all that the juice has given you, for when you stop using they will take it all back. It makes no difference if you have taken one cycle or 50, you still did stereoids. Stand behind your decision to be fake, even if its just for that one cycle. Know that what you lifted was not just you. It was you on steroids.
"Who the fuck is this to be so high and mighty" you might ask. I'll tell you. When I started lifting 4 years ago, I was 150 lbs, at 5'11 thats not allot of muscle. I tried many different workouts, did allot of resurch, learned how a body works and disspelled allot of bullshit that you read in muscle mags (steroid manuals) and steadily became 200 lbs, still not impressive next to a juicer, but I know that what I have is all mine. Juicers cannot say that about their gains. They can lift more than me, they can be more ripped than me, even when eating shit. But they are not pure. They are not natural, and they do not deserve my respect. Besides I work harder than most juicers in the gym, not as often, because I cannot recover as fast as a juicer. Being natural I have to be smarter about lifting. I can't just go to the gym 6 days a week and get a pump in a different muscle group while I chew no2 gum and think about what im going to stack next cycle. I have to plan things better and listen to my body. Juicers are impatient and insecure and unlike a juicer, SELF RESPECT is something I value more than being able to bench 400 pounds. One day maybe I'll get there, but if I do it's all me. That is all. [/quote]
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
violatepropriety wrote:
HAHA, that was funny.
Now i dont have to tell you or anybody else whether i juice or not, none of your business, but gassed or not, you go around making comments like that in front of me, and you wont be lifting anything anytime soon.
Now stop whining about whos on and whos not, and stop projecting your gay activities from your future onto me.
Do a cycle already. And get a boyfriend or something.
No way I am content being natural.
[/quote]
Good for you. Now get the fuck off this forum and be a slapdick somewhere else.
Monopoly
Steroids aren’t evil; if I was going to pollute my body with any drugs on a regular basis, steroids would be my choice(alcohol included). Hell, your body produces test anyway. But they are a shortcut, and some physiques simply are not possible without them.
In the latter respect, they are a bit of a crutch, I think. But hey. We all play our own game. I don’t disrespect gearheads in general, but those that actually brag about what they have done and then outright LIE about their use, not just discreetly deflect the question or give an innocuous answer, I think that is kinda shitty.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
This would have to be one of the most misguided and ignorant posts I have ever read on T-Nation. According to the argument below, everyone should be happy with the level of steroids their body provides naturally (yes, Roargathor, testosterone is a steroid). Or is there a level of natural steroid production below which it is OK to supplement your natural levels? (Eg via HRT) If not, why not? and if so, who determines what the appropriate level is? Perhaps Roargathor could let us have the benefit of his wisdom on this issue.
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You hit it right on the head, everyone SHOULD be happy with the amount of growth hormones (steroids) their bodies produce naturally, specifically when the goals of the individual are vanity/performance based.
THere are people that might have Health conditions requiring perscription supplementation from a physician are are another matter entirly and out of my juristiction to argue.
For those who don’t want to read my last post, Juicers are fake and deserve no respect for their “feats” in the gym or on the feild/ring etc… Steroids are cheating when your body is perfectly capable of making enough growth hormones to promote muscle gain. There is NO argument here. That is all.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
This would have to be one of the most misguided and ignorant posts I have ever read on T-Nation. According to the argument below, everyone should be happy with the level of steroids their body provides naturally (yes, Roargathor, testosterone is a steroid). Or is there a level of natural steroid production below which it is OK to supplement your natural levels? (Eg via HRT) If not, why not? and if so, who determines what the appropriate level is? Perhaps Roargathor could let us have the benefit of his wisdom on this issue.
[/quote]
You hit it right on the head, everyone SHOULD be happy with the amount of growth hormones (steroids) their bodies produce naturally, specifically when the goals of the individual are vanity/performance based.
THere are people that might have Health conditions requiring perscription supplementation from a physician are are another matter entirly and out of my juristiction to argue.
For those who don’t want to read my last post, Juicers are fake and deserve no respect for their “feats” in the gym or on the feild/ring etc… Steroids are cheating when your body is perfectly capable of making enough growth hormones to promote muscle gain. There is NO argument here. That is all.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
You’re right, I am not impressed by your lifts especially since you have a needle sticking out of your ass. I can even deadlift more than you and I weight less than you plus no juice so put that in yer pipe and puff on it. Imagine that! Being out pulled by someone who is natural and smaller than you.
You would be the last needle dick who I would be asking shit about “being strong.” Your bench for a juicer is nothing to brag about either.
Oh yeah and I don’t bodybuild either as I am more into strength stuff.[/quote]
I don’t have a needle sticking out of my ass, not that it really matters I just don’t. If you had taken the time to actually read my post you would know that I’ve used ph’s and SD. Now I haven’t taken SD in over ten months and I never got any stronger than I had naturally and at a lighter weight.
As for you being stronger than me it is possible but highly unlikely. I stated I don’t like to go over those weights and don’t so those are the numbers I do a few strict reps at, even though I could do much much more. I just find going heavier on my lower body to be to taxing with all of the different sports I play.
Now I have read enough of your posts to know you have little mans disease so you will just come back and insult me in some way because it’s the only way you can run your mouth and not get bitch slapped. I do have to thank you; I haven’t laughed his hard in a long time.
I think everyone who reads any of your posts will see why your “friends” didn’t tell you what they were doing.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
sharetrader wrote:
This would have to be one of the most misguided and ignorant posts I have ever read on T-Nation. According to the argument below, everyone should be happy with the level of steroids their body provides naturally (yes, Roargathor, testosterone is a steroid). Or is there a level of natural steroid production below which it is OK to supplement your natural levels? (Eg via HRT) If not, why not? and if so, who determines what the appropriate level is? Perhaps Roargathor could let us have the benefit of his wisdom on this issue.
You hit it right on the head, everyone SHOULD be happy with the amount of growth hormones (steroids) their bodies produce naturally, specifically when the goals of the individual are vanity/performance based.
THere are people that might have Health conditions requiring perscription supplementation from a physician are are another matter entirly and out of my juristiction to argue.
For those who don’t want to read my last post, Juicers are fake and deserve no respect for their “feats” in the gym or on the feild/ring etc… Steroids are cheating when your body is perfectly capable of making enough growth hormones to promote muscle gain. There is NO argument here. That is all.[/quote]
I’m sure you’re also one of those guys that claims that they wouldn’t be able to get it up if a fake set of DDs was in their face.
There is NO argument that you’re a skinny fucking troll. Go back to the Men’s Health forum, you little shite.