[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
Lots of juicers at gyms lie about doing steroids and try to claim that they are “natural.” Then if you get to know them really well, they will admit to “doing a cycle once.” Next comes the admission that they did more than one cycle.
Then after awhile, someone who knows them really well tells you what you knew all along: that they are juicers and have been doing so for many years.
Has anyone else had similar experiences or is it just a freak occurence?
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gear use and detention is illegal.
why they should say what they are doinf to the first untrusted guy?
and more important, why they should tell to that guy what they are doing in theier lives?
[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Julius, you have proved in other threads that you are a troll, I now also picture you as the sneaky skinny nosey twat who is always asking questions about who does what in the gym, and who one day will probably get knocked the fucked out by a 250 lb natural BB who doesn’t appreciate you asking around if he juices or not.[/quote]
About the only thing that you have correct is the part about me being skinny.
I should have clarified…
Actually I have a very good friend who claimed to be “all natural” for over 2 years before he admitted to me that he did “a cycle” and then a few cycles,etc.
I had another friend who kept up this ridiculous charade for almost 5 months before he admitted to doing it. And another one who kept it up for about a year.
All the meanwhile both were claiming the glory of being natural.
That’s what is insidious about the lies… People are trying to claim the glory of doing things in the gym natural when they are really juicing.
[quote]alownage wrote:
They lie cuz it’s fucking illegal?
The same reason any other kind of drug user lies about using. As has been said, there’s a huge stigma attached to drug use of any kind, and admitting that they use could get them in trouble (especially true with all baseball players.) [/quote]
But here’s the thing: Almost anyone will admit to smoking pot, if you know them within a short period of time.
[quote]nanjingldv wrote:
Its like when everyone is in the 6th grade and masturbating is brought up. no one in their right mind is going to admit they jack off! If you know them well it would be different, you might be saying “yeah I have this movie i always nut to , what movies do you have, can i borrow that movie” you wouldn’t admit this to others even though you do it and suspect others of doing it. [/quote]
Its not quite the same. I don’t expenct a thread about “Mastubators and Lying” anytime soon.
Lots of at gyms lie about and try to claim that they ." Then if you get to know them really well, they will admit to Next comes the admission that they .
Then after awhile, someone who knows them really well tells you what you knew all along: that they are and have been doing so for many years.
Has anyone else had similar experiences or is it just a freak occurence?
People do what they do for their own reasons, which are none of your business. The truth is not always what you think. Try asking the next woman you meet if her tits are “real” and see what kind of response you get. Is she “cheating” because she has implants?
OK, so breast augmentation is not illegal, but the privacy issue is what it is regardless.
Anyone who openly admits to using (present tense) steroids is not very bright. I don’t know of any cops that look out for steroid users but if you throw it in their face they are going to get pissed. Just fucking stupid!
Waiting til you get to know someone, ie trust that they won’t go around and run their mouth about you, is a smart thing. Its skinny little fucks like you that come up to me and ask what I take to get strong. I give them the old eat right and take creatine/glutamine once in a while.
I had one guy do this and a month later he came up to me and asks why it wasn’t working for him after a whole month! I told him I’d been training for 20 years and it takes A LOT of hard work! I then went on for 20 minutes about pwo nutrition and so forth. The little shit accused me of doing steroids and walked away.
I have all kinds of other people run their mouths about me using because I can bench a little weight or hit a ball really far. The problem is now people think I do use because so many say I do. Little skinny lazy FUCKS!
I’ve been on the fence about using for a while now but because of the stigma I haven’t pulled the trigger. I know I have used SD and other PH’s and openly admit to them (legal at the time), but this is different only because of the legality.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
Julius, you have proved in other threads that you are a troll, I now also picture you as the sneaky skinny nosey twat who is always asking questions about who does what in the gym, and who one day will probably get knocked the fucked out by a 250 lb natural BB who doesn’t appreciate you asking around if he juices or not.
About the only thing that you have correct is the part about me being skinny.
I should have clarified…
Actually I have a very good friend who claimed to be “all natural” for over 2 years before he admitted to me that he did “a cycle” and then a few cycles,etc.
I had another friend who kept up this ridiculous charade for almost 5 months before he admitted to doing it. And another one who kept it up for about a year.
All the meanwhile both were claiming the glory of being natural.
That’s what is insidious about the lies… People are trying to claim the glory of doing things in the gym natural when they are really juicing.
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If they really were good friends then I am sure they would have told you the trith from the start, I can only assume that they don’t like you very much and/or think that you have a big mouth and thats why they lied to you, I reckon most guys are like Bushy and Prisoner and would tell the truth to people they like and respect.
As far as I’m concerned its nobody’s business but my own. Its illegal to begin with and if I do a cycle and tell everyone, then all of a sudden all of my accomplishments will be because I’m juicin, not because of the hard work I put in. Also i’ll have to deal with all the tools asking me to hook them up and shit.
I do agree that juicin and competeing in drug free competitions is bullshit.
Its skinny little fucks like you that come up to me and ask what I take to get strong. I give them the old eat right and take creatine/glutamine once in a while.
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Really? Why don’t you tell me what sort of weights that you work with and your bodyweight? What do you pull, press, squat, cheat curl, strict curl? How many chins can you do? Can you do a weighted chin up and if so with what weight? What do you do for a standing military press?
Perhaps b/c that skinny fuck is looking for a quick way to get big and just wants to take some pills rather than bust his ass for years in the gym. I would not have much else to say to that kid either.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
B415 wrote:
Its skinny little fucks like you that come up to me and ask what I take to get strong. I give them the old eat right and take creatine/glutamine once in a while.
Really? Why don’t you tell me what sort of weights that you work with and your bodyweight? What do you pull, press, squat, cheat curl, strict curl? How many chins can you do? Can you do a weighted chin up and if so with what weight? What do you do for a standing military press?
the NRA gets bashed in the media daily. but they also have 4 million plus members(that VOTE), so politicians listen to what they got to say. so my thought is to get our own body of 4 million that vote, so we can get our voice out and maybe loosen the laws up a bit so we can openly talk in public. that is what i think
If they really were good friends then I am sure they would have told you the trith from the start, I can only assume that they don’t like you very much and/or think that you have a big mouth and thats why they lied to you, I reckon most guys are like Bushy and Prisoner and would tell the truth to people they like and respect.
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I don’t think so. I think that many juicers like to claim the glory of lifting heavy weights or being big naturally.
[quote]butcher wrote:
the NRA gets bashed in the media daily. but they also have 4 million plus members(that VOTE), so politicians listen to what they got to say. so my thought is to get our own body of 4 million that vote, so we can get our voice out and maybe loosen the laws up a bit so we can openly talk in public. that is what i think [/quote]
Interesting idea, the problem is the current laws. Possesion of a fire arm in your country is a RIGHT.
Possesion of AS’s is a crime.
It will be hard to get 4 million people to openly admit that they regularly commit a crime, this same process has been attempted by the pot smoking communitee and continues to fail.
[quote]butcher wrote:
the NRA gets bashed in the media daily. but they also have 4 million plus members(that VOTE), so politicians listen to what they got to say. so my thought is to get our own body of 4 million that vote, so we can get our voice out and maybe loosen the laws up a bit so we can openly talk in public. that is what i think [/quote]
A body would have needed to be organized before the harsher laws were passed. The NRA began exerting its political will in anticipation of increasing legislation. We’re the well-done frogs still sitting in the pot.
Interesting idea, the problem is the current laws. Possesion of a fire arm in your country is a RIGHT.
Possesion of AS’s is a crime.
It will be hard to get 4 million people to openly admit that they regularly commit a crime, this same process has been attempted by the pot smoking communitee and continues to fail.[/quote]
i agree that it would be hard to get the 4 million but you can smoke pot for medical reasons in some states. that is a start
A body would have needed to be organized before the harsher laws were passed. The NRA began exerting its political will in anticipation of increasing legislation. We’re the well-done frogs still sitting in the pot.[/quote]
the nra got the 96 crime bill removed from law. i think that proves that laws are hard to change, but not impossble.
