[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
Maybe I can too.
Booster shots it is!
Did I mention I love steroids? [/quote]
Yes you did buff-diesel !
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea. And if your not then what’s with all the research ? Plus I didn’t say you were I said it seemed like you were .
I happen to think it an interesting topic. The way compounds affect the body and the whole approach. I actually enjoyed my Drugs and Behavior and other NBB classes in college as well. Not to belabor the point too much or make this personal for no reason, but if you are going to make yourself a self-appointed champion against steroid use, it would behoove you to do some research as well.
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Behoove me ! I don’t need research to know that steroids suck balls . Just the extra wieght you gotta carry around for x amount of years is bad enough . That’s without getting in to " The intersting compounds and how they effect the body " Gold star on your forehead shit !
I got up to 250lb’s on MAG-10 and other " andros " . Then I saw an obesity chart. I was Severe’ly obese . With ABS! Something like putting a honda engine in a mack truck ! There is no debate . There’s only denial !
Oh, By the way george there are no jerk stores ( I mean brain transplants ). Get your college money back !
X - The peoples champ !!!
[quote]FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”[/quote]
I worked at a golds gym for 3 years. I saw many people change. There were several known juicers that would loose 10-20 pounds in a reletivly short time, say 3-4 months? Some of them might have blamed it on some illness. One guy strait up said he lost his job and could no longer afford “supplements” Whey protien and creatine for sure… C’mon people you aren’t going to live forever but who wants to see everything they worked so hard to get wither to nothing? You are not immortal, you are not uber. You will get old and die. Who wants to put unnessesary strain on your liver and kidneys? And to those of you who say there is no danger if you kow what you are doing, well i got news for you. You dont ever know what you are doing. You might think because you are educated and intellegent that you can put things in your body and claim to know the exact outcome, but you are wrong. Even if you are doing things “right” you apparently think that the outcome outwheighs the headaches of managing the proper cycles and stacks. Yeah I might be stubborn and ignorant now, but when ever reach the age of 60+ my body will be in eccelent shape compared to any gearhead of the same age. Hell I’ll outperform the majority you pansies, if you can even make it to the gym then.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”
I worked at a golds gym for 3 years. I saw many people change. There were several known juicers that would loose 10-20 pounds in a reletivly short time, say 3-4 months? Some of them might have blamed it on some illness. One guy strait up said he lost his job and could no longer afford “supplements” Whey protien and creatine for sure… C’mon people you aren’t going to live forever but who wants to see everything they worked so hard to get wither to nothing? You are not immortal, you are not uber. You will get old and die. Who wants to put unnessesary strain on your liver and kidneys? And to those of you who say there is no danger if you kow what you are doing, well i got news for you. You dont ever know what you are doing. You might think because you are educated and intellegent that you can put things in your body and claim to know the exact outcome, but you are wrong. Even if you are doing things “right” you apparently think that the outcome outwheighs the headaches of managing the proper cycles and stacks. Yeah I might be stubborn and ignorant now, but when ever reach the age of 60+ my body will be in eccelent shape compared to any gearhead of the same age. Hell I’ll outperform the majority you pansies, if you can even make it to the gym then. [/quote]
Nope. When I am 60, I bet I’ll still be juicing intelligently and will still be training away. I bet I’ll be happier than you too.
[quote]jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
jjay wrote:
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea. And if your not then what’s with all the research ? Plus I didn’t say you were I said it seemed like you were .
I happen to think it an interesting topic. The way compounds affect the body and the whole approach. I actually enjoyed my Drugs and Behavior and other NBB classes in college as well. Not to belabor the point too much or make this personal for no reason, but if you are going to make yourself a self-appointed champion against steroid use, it would behoove you to do some research as well.
Behoove me ! I don’t need research to know that steroids suck balls . Just the extra wieght you gotta carry around for x amount of years is bad enough . That’s without getting in to " The intersting compounds and how they effect the body " Gold star on your forehead shit !
I got up to 250lb’s on MAG-10 and other " andros " . Then I saw an obesity chart. I was Severe’ly obese . With ABS! Something like putting a honda engine in a mack truck ! There is no debate . There’s only denial !
Oh, By the way george there are no jerk stores ( I mean brain transplants ). Get your college money back !
X - The peoples champ !!! [/quote]
Hard to make any sense of the post. But I hope you’re not actually saying that those charts hold water. I have been obese at 9% never having done steroids or prohormones. Even before i started training seriously, I have supposedly been overweight at 5% bodyfat as a competitive distance runner and still smoked half the competition at a high level. Maybe if you’re 300 lbs even if the vast majority is muscle, you might run into some issues [joint issues and such]. But you can carry a lot more muscle than you’d think from those stupid charts and still be healthy as a horse, athletic, and to use an evil word, ‘functional’.
[quote]jjay wrote:
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea.
I don’t need research to know that steroids suck balls.
[/quote]
Why is ANYONE engaging this fuckheaded moron?
He admits he’s an ignorant fuck. He eschews knowledge that would help him make an intelligent discussion possible.
Ignorance and fear is bigotry.
And jj has both in spades.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jjay wrote:
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea.
I don’t need research to know that steroids suck balls.
Why is ANYONE engaging this fuckheaded moron?
He admits he’s an ignorant fuck. He eschews knowledge that would help him make an intelligent discussion possible.
Ignorance and fear is bigotry.
And jj has both in spades.
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Agreed. I’m out. Roargathor, jjay, Julius-talk amongst yourselves. Keep perpetuating half-truths, myths and downright lies without a shred of evidence or fact to back it up. You’d all probably be good at arguing the sky is green. Not because it is, just because you wouldn’t stop until everyone that KNOWS it’s blue would say “AW, fuck it.”
If you all want to believe AAS is the devil himself inside a syringe or pill go ahead. You have that right.
Peace.
I respect the guys who admit to juicing, like Arnold and Conseco. I don’t agee with Conseco outing the guys who are on them though.
Jsbrook , Maybe if your 300 lbs ? I know those charts aren’t exact but if your in the severe’ly obese catagory you might need take it down a notch .
For you guys that think steroids are " worth it " or safe . If you prove me wrong great . No harm done , If your wrong your fucked . You’ll be just like all the inmate’s who never thought " they " would’nt get caught . You’ll never care till somthing fucked up happens . That just the way it is . You can’t say I’m wrong .
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jjay wrote:
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea.
I don’t need research to know that steroids suck balls.
Why is ANYONE engaging this fuckheaded moron?
He admits he’s an ignorant fuck. He eschews knowledge that would help him make an intelligent discussion possible.
Ignorance and fear is bigotry.
And jj has both in spades.
[/quote]
Ignorance and fear is bigotry ? What you get that off a t-shirt ? Go do a math problem !!!
[quote]FCFighter wrote:
If you all want to believe AAS is the devil himself inside a syringe or pill go ahead. You have that right.
Peace.
[/quote]
Relax Bundy , Were saying It’s not the best thing for you ! I know it’s not heroin !!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
hardcorps wrote:
I don’t use whey protein because it’s a waste of money. There are better sources of protein than that for less. For instance, I drink ten eggs a day. .
On a side note - hardcorps, I too used to drink a lot of eggs/egg whites, until I read on this site how the bioavailability of eggs is only any good if you cook them first. If you drink raw whites, it will likely deplete your biotin levels. Whey is actually far better from a nutrition POV. Seriously, I think that all the T-Nation writers advocate the use of whey…[/quote]
Bushy, you took the words out of my mouth about the egg whites RAW. Some guys want to be HARDCORE and get their ideas from watching Rocky movies.
Egg whites (cooked) for better digestion have probably the highest biological value of any whole food protien. With that said, whey protein is even higher! I guess Rocky did not teach Hardcorps that fact. I also suppose that Hardcorps eats only egg whites as his source of protein. I suppose that taking a protein that had to be processed to reach the final product would be unnatural and Hardcorps would not want to put that crap along with other things such as testosterone that doesnt work into his natural body.
Maybe someone who consumes several different sources of protein on a daily basis is a fool as Hardcorps suggests.
I am learning so much!
Maybe these guys are lying about using the gear because the don’t want to spend the next 5-10 years behind bars…
Where I come from it’s legal and if anyone asks I have no problem saying that I use. In fact I’m more than happy to help them out with their own stack if they use themselves.
Just because the US government has decided to ban somthing it does not mean that it’s evil and will kill you… if this was the case then 97% of the drugs passed by the FDA would be illegal… this is a fact.
As far as steroids causing cancer - not one case has been reported in history… not one! If you have facts to back this up then post here… also I’m sure the FDA would be interested as they have not one case on file.
[quote]nanjingldv wrote:
Its like when everyone is in the 6th grade and masturbating is brought up. no one in their right mind is going to admit they jack off! If you know them well it would be different, you might be saying “yeah I have this movie i always nut to , what movies do you have, can i borrow that movie” you wouldn’t admit this to others even though you do it and suspect others of doing it. [/quote]
I’m honest about beating off(i’m married) I do it like I sleep every night and some times at work, nay just kidding I don’t sleep at work.
[quote]jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
If you all want to believe AAS is the devil himself inside a syringe or pill go ahead. You have that right.
Peace.
Relax Bundy , Were saying It’s not the best thing for you ! I know it’s not heroin !! [/quote]
You don’t have a fucking clue what AAS is because you are too stupid to learn about it. Oh…wait… I mean you don’t need to learn about AAS to know that they suck balls.
You are a fuckheaded moron.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
If you all want to believe AAS is the devil himself inside a syringe or pill go ahead. You have that right.
Peace.
Relax Bundy , Were saying It’s not the best thing for you ! I know it’s not heroin !!
You don’t have a fucking clue what AAS is because you are too stupid to learn about it. Oh…wait… I mean you don’t need to learn about AAS to know that they suck balls.
You are a fuckheaded moron. [/quote]
Ohhh… Wait your right , Steroids are great for you . There is no danger whatsoever . Not only that but the reason there illegal is beacause of a big government conspiracy to stop us all from getting " HUGE " . Just like acids only illegal to stop us all from freeing or minds !!! You have me convinced . What are your thoughts on U.F.O’S !!
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
If you all want to believe AAS is the devil himself inside a syringe or pill go ahead. You have that right.
Peace.
Relax Bundy , Were saying It’s not the best thing for you ! I know it’s not heroin !!
You don’t have a fucking clue what AAS is because you are too stupid to learn about it. Oh…wait… I mean you don’t need to learn about AAS to know that they suck balls.
You are a fuckheaded moron. [/quote]
Yes, and resorting to profanitys is intellegent and rational. Face it, you’re just mad that you gave in to your insecuritys and started juicing in the first place. Your denial of such is as transparent as your effort to hide your body dysmorphic disorder. You and others like you are no different than a bulimic/anorexic waif. Thats all you are inside.
[quote]jjay wrote:
Jsbrook , Maybe if your 300 lbs ? I know those charts aren’t exact but if your in the severe’ly obese catagory you might need take it down a notch .
For you guys that think steroids are " worth it " or safe . If you prove me wrong great . No harm done , If your wrong your fucked . You’ll be just like all the inmate’s who never thought " they " would’nt get caught . You’ll never care till somthing fucked up happens . That just the way it is . You can’t say I’m wrong . [/quote]
Um, no. I have never been in the severly obese category. I was in the obese category at 190 in high single digits bodyfat. Naturally. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I was healthy as a horse. Vital signs all excellent. Could run a fast 400. And I bet I could’ve still run a solid 10K even though I wasn’t training for endurance at all. And people can be in the severely obese cateogry though I have never been and still be muscular, healthy, and at a low bodyfat.
[quote]Roargathor wrote:
Yes, and resorting to profanitys is intellegent and rational. Face it, you’re just mad that you gave in to your insecuritys and started juicing in the first place. Your denial of such is as transparent as your effort to hide your body dysmorphic disorder. You and others like you are no different than a bulimic/anorexic waif. Thats all you are inside. [/quote]
You know nothing about me - or what’s inside me.
Your ignorance and refusal to learn have skewed your thinking such that you can not possibly entertain a well reasoned alternative to your kneejerk, visceral, illogical fantasy.
I am not mad about anything other than your ignorance. Because ignorance is an entirely preventable disease. Couple that with your fear - and you have the bigot you and jj have become.
I think the use of AAS is one of the greates things I could have ever done for myself. I’m not talking about the gym, or how I look. I train alone in a town of under 800 people. Who the fuck do I have to impress?
If I am wrong - then why the explosion in male HRT in the last 3 years? Are you suggesting that all of those guys taking juice are just doing it because they want a bigger bench, or squat? I call bullshit. Your ignorance of this subject is exceeded only by your prejudice towards those that are different from the way you think they should be.
You are a joke. Well - your ignorance has made you a joke. I am sure your mother loves you regardless.
And I have been using cusswords for longer than you have been potty trained - just to put your little life into perspective, scooter.
[quote]jjay wrote:
Ohhh… Wait your right , Steroids are great for you . [/quote]
Maybe that’s why there is an explosion of HRT therapy nowadays - since it is soooo dangerous.
No - they are illegal because ignorant little idiots like you go to DC and tell people how evil they are, and without any proof - the other ignorant sheep step right in line.
I think the mother ship needs to come get you before you hurt yourself. You are obviously not the alpha alien - more like the estrogen engorged bitch alien.