[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
you seriously need to stop talking so much bullshit, you really are making yourself look like a complete and utter clown who has not got a clue what he is talking about
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That does happen !! And roargathor Lou farigno is still huge but arnold sucks now he looks like my uncle daryl, Frank Zane looks like he never worked out in his life . My nieghbor hasn’t been able to walk right in 20 years and another guy I know is still Huge but he looks like a ballon . I guess It’s a crap shoot !
One thing I noticed on that show the man who’s arms exploded . They had that kid who was the son of the steroid expert . Well the father put him on steroids and published it as a log magazine type thing in the UK . The kid looked unbelivable when he was on in the pictures but he was talking about it live and he looked awful !! I mean AWFUL man!! Not healthy or big at all . And I think HEALTH is the key word here !
[quote]FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
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If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
[quote]jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT ! [/quote]
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”
I don’t think anyone can deny that your body will not maintain the extreme wieght without more AAS . Especially in the mid or upper range of 1-10 years. No I am not speaking from personal experience (thank god ) but there are MANY ex steroid users that will tell you to stay away without even getting in to the gains . But hey I could care less what you believe or how you feel about it . I will say from what I understand you might keep 1/2 ! I don’t think that will hold past a 5-10 year mark figuring natural wieght gain . And I know it won’t look like hard steroid wieght but if it is worth it to you do it .
[quote]FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”[/quote]
That’s great you ever score 4 touchdowns in one game !!
[quote]jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”
That’s great you ever score 4 touchdowns in one game !![/quote]
[quote]jjay wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
you seriously need to stop talking so much bullshit, you really are making yourself look like a complete and utter clown who has not got a clue what he is talking about
That does happen !! And roargathor Lou farigno is still huge but arnold sucks now he looks like my uncle daryl, Frank Zane looks like he never worked out in his life . My nieghbor hasn’t been able to walk right in 20 years and another guy I know is still Huge but he looks like a ballon . I guess It’s a crap shoot !
One thing I noticed on that show the man who’s arms exploded . They had that kid who was the son of the steroid expert . Well the father put him on steroids and published it as a log magazine type thing in the UK . The kid looked unbelivable when he was on in the pictures but he was talking about it live and he looked awful !! I mean AWFUL man!! Not healthy or big at all . And I think HEALTH is the key word here ! [/quote]
This is retarded using examples of men who have aged and their prime was in the 70’s. You can take any person who doesn’t juice, chooses to eat right, and exercise, and they can get into great shape. This same person can stop working and eat like crap and in a matter of months look like crap.
Whether using or not the key to looking good is knowing what you are doing and consistency.
[quote]jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”
That’s great you ever score 4 touchdowns in one game !![/quote]
WTF? I’m kind of slow. You’re gonna have to explain that one.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
jjay wrote:
FCFighter wrote:
Roargathor wrote:
One thing about steroids that gives me reason to oppose their use, is the fact that once you stop them, beit sane use or abuse, whatever gains you had while using them, you lose.
Its funny to see juicers fluctuate in size and strength, as they loose their supplier or cant afford a cycle this month. I figure, why bother. Unless you can afford to continue using till you quit training. What about old juicers? Are there any 50+ year old juicers that are still hitting the gym hard? Just curious.
Not with proper PCT.
If you do x amount of cycles with proper Pct finish and don’t do anymore steroids for say 1-10 year’s you will lose ALOT !
Uh, I’m assuming you’re speaking from experience(Not “I know this guy who’s cousin got HUGE when he was on, but then…”), but I kind of doubt it.
And please don’t come back with some lame ass analogy like “Well I don’t need to get shot by a gun to know that it could kill you!”
That’s great you ever score 4 touchdowns in one game !!
Al Bundy did…
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Well I don’t remember that much about it let me see , It was a cold month in october , tempeture was 40 degrees , the wind was 32 mph , Gusting up to 35 !!
This is retarded using examples of men who have aged and their prime was in the 70’s. You can take any person who doesn’t juice, chooses to eat right, and exercise, and they can get into great shape. This same person can stop working and eat like crap and in a matter of months look like crap.
Whether using or not the key to looking good is knowing what you are doing and consistency.
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You can’t use anyone as an example that is still using .
Ok , But just to check you for a second.
You can seriously damage yourself with proper pct .
Please expand on this JJay
Steroids are dangerous . I don’t think you can deny that . Is there a safe way to use ? Maybe . I think that 99% of users don’t have the capability or disipline to use in that way . If they knew what that way was . Can you use short term , experiement and be ok ? Yes . Is that effective or does it have any real benefit ? I don’t think so . Is there any danger to that. Yeah there might be . You ever heard of 1 is to many and a million’s not enough . If this guy decides to do his first cycle with proper Pct where does it go from there ? Any way my comment was for him . I think he understood !
Ok cool cheers, I read ‘You can seriously damage yourself with proper pct’
and was worried what MY PROPER PCT might do to me!!
I don’t know what your pct is but I think you should look it up on medicial sites . They tell you the things that bodybuilding boards leave out . All I know is that when I looked up tamoxafin I was shocked ! At least this way you know what’s really good .[/quote]
I notice you keep repeating this. Don’t believe that . Even expert doctors don’t know all the dangers of long term use . You might start with good intentions but you get addicted like any other drug . If it is not pysicial it is mental . Not to jump down your throat but it seems like you might be considering doing somthing.[/quote]
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
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Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea. And if your not then what’s with all the research ? Plus I didn’t say you were I said it seemed like you were .
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea. And if your not then what’s with all the research ? Plus I didn’t say you were I said it seemed like you were . [/quote]
Thanks, Mom. I am not actually. but you don’t seem to knowledgable on the subject, I have to say.
Don’t be a douche . I don’t have to be to knowledgeable to know it’s not a good idea. And if your not then what’s with all the research ? Plus I didn’t say you were I said it seemed like you were . [/quote]
I happen to think it an interesting topic. The way compounds affect the body and the whole approach. I actually enjoyed my Drugs and Behavior and other NBB classes in college as well. Not to belabor the point too much or make this personal for no reason, but if you are going to make yourself a self-appointed champion against steroid use, it would behoove you to do some research as well.