Juicers and Lying

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Oh, by the way, in case anyone is interested - in this part of the world (UK) it is LEGAL to import, possess and use steroids, GH, insulin, etc. Only the sale and distribution is illegal…[/quote]

cause you live in a country where the word freedom still has a meaning.

Here in Italy we have a different laws with every new govern for recreational drugs… but the ignorance here is so high that it is “better” to use cocaine than test…

just to do and example using AAS i do a worst illegal act than rape.

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This is addressed to anyone who thinks using gear is comparable to a women getting breast implants.

If you take a scrawny 130 pound eighteen year old who knows nothing about training or nutrition and give him a cycle of the best gear money can buy what will we have at the end of that cycle?

Yes, that’s right a scrawny 130 pound kid.

Steroids damn sure will make and put one in the best anabolic state possible, but without the knowledge and damn hard physical effort behind it you might as well inject tap water.

The intelligent people who use gear have usually put in years of hard work with the weights, nutrition, recovery, education, that have put them at a level on par with the best naturals in terms of strength and body composition for up to that point they have been natural.

They are the type that after taking it to that level have the desire to take it beyond. They realize gear isn’t a magic pill that with one inject will turn them into Mr. Olympia, but rather a high powered tool that will allow them to take their already hard work to another level.

If it’s not your cup of tea that’s fine most will have the utmost respect for anyone who works hard in the gym. If it is your thing and you do it the right smart way, it’s nobodies damn business unless you choose to share it with them.

You get on here and rail on about the health risks? You would be better served to get on your soap box and rail to the masses that are killing themselves with sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, then take shots at people who are healthier then the norm.

Just my 0.02,

D

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Opinions with no basis in fact is what they call ignorance.

Hardon is proof of that. He has no clue about that which he hates. He hates based soley on his fear and dislike.

Him and the rest of the anti-aas lunkheads on this thread prove their ignorance everytime they post. No logical support for their positions - not one open mind amongst them.

I think the KKK had leadership just like these guys. Ignorant, lazy, and stupid. [/quote]

Fuck you. You don’t know anything about me. You don’t have any idea how open my mind is. You’re basing everything on my opinion of juicing. You’re simply attacking me because my opinion is in conflict with yours. My position on roids is mostly a moral one. I would feel as if I were cheating if I used them.
P.S. At least I can get a hard on.

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I’m being referred to as stupid, ignorant, close-minded, gay because my opinion differs from the majority. Yet I’m the one being compared to the leader of the KKK and those who burned suspected witches?

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[quote]hardcorps wrote:
Fuck you. You don’t know anything about me. You don’t have any idea how open my mind is. You’re basing everything on my opinion of juicing. You’re simply attacking me because my opinion is in conflict with yours.[/quote]

No - you have it only partly right. Now pay attention. Your opinion is not based in anything even resembling reason. It is not based on any defendable fact. Why do I say this? Because you have yet to provide any reason other than “it is your opinion”. You have provided no facts whatsoever to support your opinion.

Yet you come on here and tell us we are cheating. Talk about someone that knows dick about who they are accusing - you wrote that book.

I welcome differences of opinion. Most open minded people do - but only when they are sound, logical opinions. You brought none of that to this discussion.

[quote]My position on roids is mostly a moral one. I would feel as if I were cheating if I used them.
P.S. At least I can get a hard on.
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If it is a moral choice for you - why do you feel the need to impose your moral beliefs on others that are quite happy living their lives the way they are living them? I think that’s caled prejudging - or - prejudice. There is no arguing with prejudiced people.

As for the hard-on. You really need to read up on AAS before making ignorant blanket statements like that. It only goes to prove just how fearful and ignorant you are of this subject.

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[quote]hardcorps wrote:
I’m being referred to as stupid, ignorant, close-minded, gay because my opinion differs from the majority. Yet I’m the one being compared to the leader of the KKK and those who burned suspected witches?[/quote]

Your ignorance and fear is what is getting you flamed. Not your opinion. Your opinion is worthless because of your lack of any knowledge of the subject.

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I have continually stated that I feel it is an artificial means to gaining strength. What more do I need to say? That’s it. And just because I state my opinion doesn’t mean that I am imposing it on you. You of all people should know that, rainjack. Your a Texan, for Christs sake.

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Why would someone come to the steroid forum to badmouth them?

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Rainjack and Bushy,

The guy is just mule-headed and dogmatic. Fuck him! He’s probably some little pencil-neck doing curls in the squat rack for an hour type of douche and has probably trained all of a month or two regurgitating some crap he probably read.

I’m sure he’s getting a nut from all of the flames. He’s a troll. I won’t waste any more time on the little turd.

I just wish he trained at my gym. I’d love to give him a first hand education, especially if he made these kinds of assertions publicly. Although I’m sure I’d have plenty of company schooling his sorry ass. Not that I’d need the help, but just because many of my gym bros would love to get their hands on a little weasel like him too. HardCorps would probably be all that’d be left afterwards, so he’d resemble his handle, lol.

I also love that he doesn’t have the stones to post anything about himself in his profile. Even if he did I’m sure it’d be bullshit too. He’s likely an Internet heman anyway.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Why would someone come to the steroid forum to badmouth them?
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Perhaps because he’s a troll moron?

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[quote]assbuster wrote:
Rainjack and Bushy,

The guy is just mule-headed and dogmatic. Fuck him! He’s probably some little pencil-neck doing curls in the squat rack for an hour type of douche and has probably trained all of a month or two regurgitating some crap he probably read.

I’m sure he’s getting a nut from all of the flames. He’s a troll. I won’t waste any more time on the little turd.

I just wish he trained at my gym. I’d love to give him a first hand education, especially if he made these kinds of assertions publicly. Although I’m sure I’d have plenty of company schooling his sorry ass. Not that I’d need the help, but just because many of my gym bros would love to get their hands on a little weasel like him too. HardCorps would probably be all that’d be left afterwards, so he’d resemble his handle, lol.

I also love that he doesn’t have the stones to post anything about himself in his profile. Even if he did I’m sure it’d be bullshit too. He’s likely an Internet heman anyway.
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Okay, someone who knows nothing about me throwing out as many names as he can think of. Now you, assbuster, have really made me respect the guys I was sparring with before. They made a decent attempt, as I have, to stay away from that. The threat of physical violence has really put me in my place. Although, I am a little concerned what someone named assbuster and his boys would like to do to me.

So if I asserted myself in public, you would “educate” me. It’s my constitutional right to go out and publicly assert myself. The constitution, something I’ve sworn to defend, and something you want to step on in order to be funny. You, sir, are in need of the education. But thank you for your condescension, anyway.

I love how I’m being accused of making assertions without knowledge, meanwhile you’re guessing at how long I’ve trained. Based on that, it looks to me like you don’t know shit about anything.
By the way I have some boys of my own. I’ve been through some shit with my boys and I know that there are some other members that have been through some shit with the same boys. Even though we don’t know each other, we know each other.

You wouldn’t last two minutes in our world. But just in case they’re busy, I’m happy to roll alone.
In the future, it’s better not to go there. It’s weak. I hadn’t even heard from you yet, and the first thing you do is threaten violence. It tells me that you don’t know what violence is really like. It can be hell and it’s rarely a joke.

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[quote]hardcorps wrote:
Okay, someone who knows nothing about me throwing out as many names as he can think of. Now you, assbuster, have really made me respect the guys I was sparring with before. They made a decent attempt, as I have, to stay away from that. The threat of physical violence has really put me in my place. Although, I am a little concerned what someone named assbuster and his boys would like to do to me.

So if I asserted myself in public, you would “educate” me. It’s my constitutional right to go out and publicly assert myself. The constitution, something I’ve sworn to defend, and something you want to step on in order to be funny. You, sir, are in need of the education. But thank you for your condescension, anyway.

I love how I’m being accused of making assertions without knowledge, meanwhile you’re guessing at how long I’ve trained. Based on that, it looks to me like you don’t know shit about anything.
By the way I have some boys of my own. I’ve been through some shit with my boys and I know that there are some other members that have been through some shit with the same boys. Even though we don’t know each other, we know each other.

You wouldn’t last two minutes in our world. But just in case they’re busy, I’m happy to roll alone.
In the future, it’s better not to go there. It’s weak. I hadn’t even heard from you yet, and the first thing you do is threaten violence. It tells me that you don’t know what violence is really like. It can be hell and it’s rarely a joke.[/quote]

I have the constitutional right to tell you jump up my ass too. I don’t need to hide behind the constitution or the Internet or anything else pal.

I guess there’s only one way to find out if you can back up all of your big talk wiseguy. Next time in Las Vegas look me up. If you have the courage, I’ll be glad to give you information on how to hookup with me once here via PM. I’d love to meet up with you or you and “the boys”. LOL

If you have the stones arrange it. The ball’s in your court. If you are really a tough guy, make it happen, I DARE YOU! I’m calling you out son. Are you up for the challenge?

I’m not going to continue this war of words with you. This will be my last public post to you here. From here on PM me and we’ll take it from there. Otherwise I’ll just consider you another Internet tough guy bag of wind.

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[quote]hardcorps wrote:
I don’t use whey protein because it’s a waste of money. There are better sources of protein than that for less. For instance, I drink ten eggs a day. [/quote]

10 eggs a day? Are you the chloresterol kid or what? Do you know how much fat and chloresterol is in those 10 eggs and how much protein? Look it up.

I buy my protein from Optimum Nutrition. The big bag gives me 24 grams of protein at about 33 cents a serving; if I add skim milk to it I get even more protein.

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
hardcorps wrote:
I don’t use whey protein because it’s a waste of money. There are better sources of protein than that for less. For instance, I drink ten eggs a day.

10 eggs a day? Are you the chloresterol kid or what? Do you know how much fat and chloresterol is in those 10 eggs and how much protein? Look it up.

I buy my protein from Optimum Nutrition. The big bag gives me 24 grams of protein at about 33 cents a serving; if I add skim milk to it I get even more protein.
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They’re raw. Raw fat is very beneficial and not bad for you.

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[quote]hardcorps wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
hardcorps wrote:
I don’t use whey protein because it’s a waste of money. There are better sources of protein than that for less. For instance, I drink ten eggs a day.

10 eggs a day? Are you the chloresterol kid or what? Do you know how much fat and chloresterol is in those 10 eggs and how much protein? Look it up.

I buy my protein from Optimum Nutrition. The big bag gives me 24 grams of protein at about 33 cents a serving; if I add skim milk to it I get even more protein.

They’re raw. Raw fat is very beneficial and not bad for you.
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Oh fuck me, so protien shakes are shit, and the fat and cholesterol in raw eggs is good for you?, thanks for coming here and posting, wow! how amazing, you know in the UK our mental paitients do not have access to computers and the internet, you guys in the US are so advanced.

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:
hardcorps wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
hardcorps wrote:
I don’t use whey protein because it’s a waste of money. There are better sources of protein than that for less. For instance, I drink ten eggs a day.

10 eggs a day? Are you the chloresterol kid or what? Do you know how much fat and chloresterol is in those 10 eggs and how much protein? Look it up.

I buy my protein from Optimum Nutrition. The big bag gives me 24 grams of protein at about 33 cents a serving; if I add skim milk to it I get even more protein.

They’re raw. Raw fat is very beneficial and not bad for you.

Oh fuck me, so protien shakes are shit, and the fat and cholesterol in raw eggs is good for you?, thanks for coming here and posting, wow! how amazing, you know in the UK our mental paitients do not have access to computers and the internet, you guys in the US are so advanced.
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We’re not that advanced, it’s just that we concleal information in these things called books.