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Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Says the dude who couldn’t refute the UN study, so pretends it didn’t happen, and has resorted to just calling white people racist.
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I skimmed through that lil study. I knew you guys were violent, and while that study is not really teh proofz, it does suggest that the USA are indeed one of the front runners for rapin and killin and assaultin and all that nasty shit evil doers like to do.
Thanks Obama.

Yeah yeah pick pocketing oh noes…stealing bicycles is pretty big in Holland huh? I am shocked and appalled.

Drug related problems are bound to increase when old geezers bitch if a group of teens are smoking dat reefah in the park without fear of being thrown to jail, but dat aint really a problem now is it, ya rectum Magellan?

Speaking of drugs, I ain’t got no time to explain you reality, I gotta go snort some snow out of a hooker’s tits. I hope them coppers don’t catch me, the penalty of 0 minutes jail time and contributing to drug related problems would be too much for me to handle.

Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
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The end result of a European education.
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How’s that, I wasn’t educated in Europe. Shows how much you know.
You ever been right about anything?
Anyway, Europe is comprised of many countries, all of them with a different brand of education.
Von Braun’s education, or Einstein’s, was vastly different from, say, Marconi or Meucci.

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than yours, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standing. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
The end result of a European education.
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Wadda ya mean, I wasn’t educated in Europe. Shows how much you know.
You ever been right about anything?

Anyway, Europe is comprised of many countries, all of them with a different brand of education.
Von Braun’s education, or Einstein’s, was vastly different from, say, Marconi or Meucci.

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than any American education, then or now, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standind. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
LOL

ISIS ‘Special Forces’ Training Video Shows Ridiculous Regimen

CrossFitna?

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than yours, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standing. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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Nagasaki? Wtf does that even mean? You’d be speaking German, …or worse…

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

CrossFitna?[/quote]

edited: because you just can’t top Varq’s sense of humor.

I swore I’d never watch any of their propaganda videos, but I couldn’t resist so I clicked on it and got a warning I needed a Java Update and that’s as far as I got. Wasn’t gonna click on that.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than yours, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standing. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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Nagasaki? Wtf does that even mean? You’d be speaking German, …or worse…
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Or worse… Portuguese.

Oh, wait.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

CrossFitna?[/quote]

Cross Fatwa…[/quote]

CrossFitna is funnier, because fitna is Arabic for “strife” or “conflict”.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

CrossFitna?[/quote]

Cross Fatwa…[/quote]

CrossFitna is funnier, because fitna is Arabic for “strife” or “conflict”.
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see above. already fixed it.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
That’s the real meat and potatoes I’ve been trying to get at but you never have anything to say about that. As I said, those big brown eyes really have worked their charm on you.[/quote]

No, the “meat and potatoes” is not you babbling about Huma Abedin, or Rudy Giuliani, or your vague Breitbart-and-Youtube-comments-level platitudes about Obama’s being “hostile to America,” or any of the other heaping portions of word salad you’re trying to use as cover for the simple set of testable claims you fantasized and then failed spectacularly to support. I literally could not give fewer fucks about whether or not you and Rudy believe Obama likes teh Americaz. It is ridiculous, unprovable, middle-school-playground twaddle. I am interested in debates that are both real and difficult, that are built of data and dates and numbers and facts. I am not interested in what you feel deep down in your butthole about the interior life of someone who isn’t you.

Again: you made a series of ludicrous claims founded in a near-complete ignorance of the basic manner in which the 2011 Libyan civil war began and unfolded:

1 . Obama as initiator of the war because of an order signed in mid-March, by which time, as anyone with even a casual understanding of recent history would have known, the uprising was underway and rebels controlled 2 of Libya’s 3 largest cities AND a big chunk of the coastline AND the entire eastern territorial region;

  1. The rebellion as “a few civil demonstrations” before Obama turned “a few dozen” protesters into an uprising.

You know what it would take to evidence these claims. Either you can, or you can’t. Either you have evidence, or you don’t. Either it’s fact, or it’s delusion. And that’s all.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than yours, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standing. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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Nagasaki? Wtf does that even mean? You’d be speaking German, …or worse…
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Means if it were up to murican brains you’d never be able to blow shit up with big bombs or build space shuttles.

Dammit do I have to explain you everything?

And I can speak German, thank you very much. This isn’t America, where people are lucky if they even speak English correctly.

But yeah, if it weren’t for the Russians who knows, maybe the German’s would’ve last a bit longer.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than yours, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standing. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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Nagasaki? Wtf does that even mean? You’d be speaking German, …or worse…
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Or worse… Portuguese.

Oh, wait.[/quote]

LOL.
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Lol wut?

You think white fellas coming to my country going around on a colonizing and murdering spree is funny?

Relatives of mine were murdered by those fascists in the 70s, dat make you laugh?

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
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Dude, seriously?

That’s it?

/no bueno[/quote]

I know, it ain’t good, unless you have your gun by your bedside table, loaded and ready to shoot, it ain’t gonna do much for you.

Dat how you roll, beans? Or do you have to go open the gun cabinet to protect yourself and your freedom?
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Beansie tuck his tail and ran away from the computer it seems.

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Yet you mock me because I link an article which shows ISIS beheading Coptic Christians in Libya and say “oh well, only a couple of people are killed compared to thousands during the civil war there…because the intervention was great.”

The civil war is still going on. People are still dying. The intervention hastened the rise of extremism, terrorism and ISIS is Libya. The only thing the intervention ultimately did was take out a strong man who had control of the country for close to 42 years and replace him with anarchy. Because of that, the Obama foreign policy is a disaster in Libya & other places you refuse to talk about.

The reason I posted those links clearly went over your head. It wasn’t to show ONLY 21 Copts were executed by ISIS, but to show that the civil war is not only still going on, but getting worse, that the killing is still going on…so if the intervention was supposed to stop the deaths of thousands it, in reality, did NOTHING.

Show me a link which states the killing, the terrorism, the civil has slowed down in Libya since the failed intervention or you, sir, are delusional.

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:
or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standind. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).

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Yep, that whole pesky part about them starting the war unprovoked and slaughtering millions had nothing to do with it.

Revisionist history at it’s finest.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Yet you mock me because I link an article which shows ISIS beheading Coptic Christians in Libya…
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So what you’re saying is this: If you start an argument with me, and then I spend days beating the ever-loving fuck out of every half-point and fallacy you can come up with while you ignore criticisms of your claims, return to failed lines of reasoning, and openly shit on the conventions of rational argument to such a dazzlingly profound extent that I can in good faith and without manufacturing quotes write the following:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
This little progression I’ve quoted (your post, my post, your post) is in many ways the quintessential exchange between us. It’s representative of your illegitimate and stupid method of argument. Allow me to elaborate. These are the first – and, in a way, most important – words of each entry in our exchange:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
You completely ignored the part about…[/quote]

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Except I didn’t ignore that…[/quote]

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
If you did not ignore this…[/quote]

This is an appalling bit of idiocy, and you do it again, and again, and again: You find something far up your own ass, retrieve it, throw it at me, and then, when it hasn’t stuck or accomplished anything, what do you do? You squint your eyes, grit your teeth, screw your courage to the sticking place and reach back up in search of more. It’s downright vulgar.

When you tell me that I ignored something, I expect you to know well and damn fucking good that I did ignore something: that…I…didn’t…address…it. I don’t expect you to be lying or fantasizing-out-loud, and I don’t expect you, if it turns out that you’ve made an error and been corrected, to open your next post with “If you did not ignore this,” going on to try something new about how, no, I didn’t ignore it, but I “missed the whole point” (which, incidentally, is nonsense). I don’t expect you to act like this is a game of whack-a-mole which I’ve agreed to play out of charity or something. You don’t get unlimited re-do’s. You don’t get your hand held.

Pay attention to this part: I am not the part of your brain responsible for making sure that what it produces is rational and correct. I am not the fact-checking arm of a newspaper you own. We are not a team that convenes at regular periods in order to figure out which of the things you’d like to say are halfway-acceptable and which are idiotic. I am not the butcher to whom you take the roadkill you find so that the useless and sickly and mangled parts can be cut away and discarded. I love debate and argument, but this is neither. This is you spraying onto the page every last delusion that comes to your mind while I pick through the mess in search of something with which to engage.[/quote]

…What you’re saying is that if you do all that, and then, at the end of it, you decide out of lunacy or obliviousness or the desire to troll that you’d like to circle back and walk one more time through the rubble of something you tried and failed to argue at the very beginning – what you’re saying is that I should oblige you? No, I really don’t think so.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
what you’re saying is that I should oblige you? No, I really don’t think so.[/quote]

By saying:

you are telling me you can not produce a single link to prove what I have stated is wrong. That the intervention in Libya was a failure because it DID NOT stop the deaths of thousands or end a civil war. It just created MORE chaos, more anarchy, more deaths and more killing.

so [quote] beat the ever-loving fuck out of every half-point and fallacy I come up with[/quote] prove my [quote] illegitimate and stupid method of argument[/quote] by producing one single link to add legitimacy to what you are saying.

or you are delusional.