[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
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Dude, seriously?
That’s it?
/no bueno[/quote]
Someone actually wrote that? And I thought my last post was bad…
Holy hell, Obama, why aren’t we bombing Assad’s forces? Why aren’t we stopping his ability to make war? Thousands upon thousands are dying yet Obama is doing nothing to stop the killing!
If he’s staying out of it because, with Assad on one side and ISIS on the other, it’s a no win situation… it did not keep him from striking in Libya and handing over the country over to Al-Qaeda and ISIS on a silver platter.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I fuckin’ luv you, dude. (no homo)[/quote]
Well, you know the feeling is mutual (no homo). And after reading this post:
[quote]You’re ASSUMING there are only two years left in his presidency. In the next 15 months he has the potential to conjure up an “emergency” and declare Martial Law.
In THIS reality, I’ve got property in South America, property in rural Virginia and boat. I’m working on a second passport. I have three alternatives to be away from much of the bullshit.
Can’t wait.[/quote]
…I have to conclude that you are my long lost twin brother.
I’m guessing Argentina. Only country in South America that I would consider, and it’s on the right side of the continent to be accessible by boat from Virginia without having to mess with the Canal.
[/quote]Santa Cruz, Bolivia (by way of Uruguay through Argentina). You want to talk about beautiful women? Santa Cruz has some of the best on the planet. I have several properties there actually. I buy them at pre-construction prices (often times for less than 10K) and sell them for an exponentially greater amount. Then roll the profit back in to the next round. I also have an interest in a business in Cochabamba. I used to import vehicles there, but that got kaiboshed by their socialist president (who wont be around forever). Bolivia is corrupt enough that you can pretty much pay off whoever you want to do whatever you want. Red lights are optional, pretty much everything else goes… The government has very little power over everyday life, and you can pay the cops off to leave you the fuck alone. Money talks and bullshit runs the marathon. Since I’ve got decent assets/income, I am treated like a fucking king. It’s fucking awesome.[quote]
You can get an Argentine passport by making an “investment” in the Argentine economy, but Bulgaria is cheaper, and you get EU priveleges along with it. And hey…Bulgarian women, right?[/quote]
Gotta check out Bulgaria. Although, perhaps it’s the " 'Murican " in me, but the thought of “EU privileges” just doesn’t excite me. Although I HAVE had some fun in Europe… Not sure I’d want to live there though.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Any thoughts on Giuliani’s comments about Obama?
Maybe you could extensively document his fireworks show of fallacy.
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You made a bunch of horseshit claims rooted in obvious ignorance, and then, when asked for evidence, gave up in a big sarcastic cop-out. Whatever bitterness is left over is yours to deal with.[/quote]
You say they’re horseshit. I say they’re not and I stick by them.[/quote]
And then I asked you to evidence them specifically (and not some sad lesser set of claims not remotely adding up to the sweeping garbage [“a few civil demonstrations and then”; “a few dozen {protesters}”] you were pushing). And you gave up. That is decisive, and it’s all I have to say about it any more.[/quote]
Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot doâ?¦
[Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Googleâ??s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Govâ??t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the shit-bag." - Fred Burton State Department Security
He’s talking about Jared Cohen of Google. They helped foment the Arab Spring on social media for the Obama regime.
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Did I miss something here, or are you trying some more slippery horseshit? That excerpt in context:
But much more importantly:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
And then I asked you to evidence them specifically (and not some sad lesser set of claims not remotely adding up to the sweeping garbage [“a few civil demonstrations and then”; “a few dozen {protesters}”] you were pushing). And you gave up. That is decisive, and it’s all I have to say about it any more.[/quote]
You know you’re not remotely close. This is too easy.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
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Dude, seriously?
That’s it?
/no bueno[/quote]
I know, it ain’t good, unless you have your gun by your bedside table, loaded and ready to shoot, it ain’t gonna do much for you.
Dat how you roll, beans? Or do you have to go open the gun cabinet to protect yourself and your freedom?
Yawn. He was working for Hillary and Obama to incite the Arab Spring. He was on the ground in Egypt from the start whipping everyone up. If you want to deny it or jump on technicalities and hold them up as epic triumphs that push the substance of the criticism into the background that’s your business. As I said, I’m sticking to story. Arab Spring = Obama’s Spring. It was his foreign policy adventure; he backed it from the start; was deeply involved in inciting the early protests; backed and funded the new revolutionary governments and in theatres where he was deeply involved he bears responsibility for the outcome and present state of affairs. That’s what I’ve been repeating for pages whilst you’ve been celebrating your triumphs with victory parades and “extensively documenting” these “big fireworks show[s]” of “fallacy”. Let’s either address the substance or drop it.
Or maybe you’d like to address Giuliani’s comments; America’s mayor, respected elder statesman, reputation as being moderate and well liked. Even lib David Letterman likes him and credits him with cleaning up the city. He says Obama is a Commie. When he said it he was immediately accused of “racism” by the left. No comments?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
As I said, I’m sticking to story.[/quote]
Indeed you are. (I guess the captain is supposed to go down with the ship, after all.)
The story, in this case, is that before Obama “started” the civil war in Libya, it was nothing more than “a few civil demonstrations and then…” And that the CIA or SD turned “a few dozen” protesters into an uprising. In support of these claims, you have offered:
and
A small child could tell you that your “evidence” falls laughably, falls profoundly short of your claims. In fact, it’s not evidence at all.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Says the dude who couldn’t refute the UN study, so pretends it didn’t happen, and has resorted to just calling white people racist.
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I skimmed through that lil study. I knew you guys were violent, and while that study is not really teh proofz, it does suggest that the USA are indeed one of the front runners for rapin and killin and assaultin and all that nasty shit evil doers like to do.
Thanks Obama.
Yeah yeah pick pocketing oh noes…stealing bicycles is pretty big in Holland huh? I am shocked and appalled.
Drug related problems are bound to increase when old geezers bitch if a group of teens are smoking dat reefah in the park without fear of being thrown to jail, but dat aint really a problem now is it, ya rectum Magellan?
Speaking of drugs, I ain’t got no time to explain you reality, I gotta go snort some snow out of a hooker’s tits. I hope them coppers don’t catch me, the penalty of 0 minutes jail time and contributing to drug related problems would be too much for me to handle.
Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
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The end result of a European education.
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How’s that, I wasn’t educated in Europe. Shows how much you know.
You ever been right about anything
?
Anyway, Europe is comprised of many countries, all of them with a different brand of education.
Von Braun’s education, or Einstein’s, was vastly different from, say, Marconi or Meucci.
The only thing their education had in common was that it was way better than any American education, then or now, or else you idiots would still be sending smoke signs and Nagasaki would still be standind. (well it is but they did went through a rough patch at some point).
No. Google was extensively involved in the Tunisian and Egyptian protests as were many, many other different State Department / Democrat foreign policy think tank / NGOs and the same thing was going on in Libya very early on. US armaments like, you know “Stinger Missiles” were going to these rebel groups within weeks of the “protests” and Hillary was raving about Gaddafi rape gangs and pushing for NATO airstrikes; they got; had Gaddafi lynched. That is the actual substance of the criticism that you still haven’t addressed. You’ve been too busy placing laurel wreaths on your head and posturing in your triumphs and victory parades. All glory to you magnificent one. Again, no comment on the substance? On Giuliani?
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And if you don’t understand ^^ that then it is you who doesn’t understand foreign policy and shouldn’t be in the discussion. But this isn’t a discussion anyway is it? You are asked your opinion on foreign policy matters by at least two different posters and you ignore it. You won’t give your opinion. For the life of me I’ll never understand it. What is it? Obama’s big brown eyes or something? The crease in his pants?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
No. Google was extensively involved in the Tunisian and Egyptian protests[/quote]
I thought we were talking about the Obama’s having “started” the civil war in Libya.
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and the same thing was going on in Libya very early on. [/quote]
How early on? Early on enough to warrant your nonsense about the turmoil having been “a few civil demonstrations” before Obama turned it into an uprising? Let’s see some, you know, evidence.
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US armaments like, you know “Stinger Missiles” were going to these rebel groups within weeks of the “protests”[/quote]
You mean within weeks of 2 / 3 largest Libyan cities, half the coastline, and an entire territorial region fell? This would give the lie to your claim about Obama’s having started the war, yes?
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That is the actual substance of the criticism[/quote]
No, the substance here is that my argument began with the claim that with Libya falling apart, intervention and a relatively quick end to what would very probably otherwise have been a high-intensity, bloody, protracted, Syria-like civil war was preferable to inaction. Your response was that Obama started the war. You have tried to evidence that claim, and you’ve fallen flat on your face.
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You’ve been too busy placing laurel wreaths on your head and posturing in your triumphs and victory parades. All glory to you magnificent one.[/quote]
I’ve been telling you what a terrible job you’ve done here, not how great I am.
The fuck do you think Giuliani has to do with this?
Gkhan, my guess with Cuba is that its the leftist in Obama. Unite the hammers and the sickles of the world.
If he were in college today, he’d probably have a few Che shirts in his drawer.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
You are asked your opinion on foreign policy matters by at least two different posters and you ignore it. You won’t give your opinion. [/quote]
I have been giving my opinion for days. What are you talking about?
I strongly suspect so and have good reason to and have an inkling how foreign policy works and when a plethora of State Department front groups are inciting protests then arming the most violent “protesters” and coordinating the take down of the government it’s not something that just happened spontaneously. No sophisticated military response was possible without foreign state help and that help came from the US and Qatar and France. I’ve read quite a bit about oil and gas geopolitics and the West’s involvement in fostering the revolutions in North Africa. If you are suggesting that US military and propaganda efforts were not essential and from the start then you don’t know what you’re talking about and shouldn’t be in a foreign policy debate. That is the substance. That is what I am standing by. The arms build up in Benghazi was a US SD / CIA combined operation with Qatar and Turkey operating out of a NATO airbase in Turkey and the consular buildings and safe houses on the ground. This is how it works. The CIA station chief in Libya was not taken by surprise. They were watching the protests from the start, inflaming them, arming the rebels, taking down the government. It would not and could not have happened without them; without Obama’s help and support. That’s why it never happened before in 40+ years.
And what does our resident International Relations lecturer have to say? I’m “greatly overestimating” the role of social media? Was the Arab Spring a State Department project? I say it was in Tunisia and Egypt and Libya and that none of those governments would have fallen without Hillary and Obama’s “meddling”. That is the substance of my criticism. Is it correct according to the Mearsheimer and Walt realist school of International Relations Mr Bismarck?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I strongly suspect so and have good reason to and have an inkling how foreign policy works and when a plethora of State Department front groups are inciting protests then arming the most violent “protesters” and coordinating the take down of the government it’s not something that just happened spontaneously. No sophisticated military response was possible without foreign state help and that help came from the US and Qatar and France. [/quote]
Interesting that you mention Qatar. What is your opinion about the row between Egypt & Qatar in regards to Egypt bombing ISIS positions in Libya? (in retaliation for the execution of the Copts.)
Interesting, no?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I strongly suspect so and have good reason to and have an inkling how foreign policy works and when a plethora of State Department front groups are inciting protests then arming the most violent “protesters” and coordinating the take down of the government it’s not something that just happened spontaneously. No sophisticated military response was possible without foreign state help and that help came from the US and Qatar and France. [/quote]
Interesting that you mention Qatar. What is your opinion about the row between Egypt & Qatar in regards to Egypt bombing ISIS positions in Libya? (in retaliation for the execution of the Copts.)
Interesting, no?[/quote]
Not too surprising. Qatar is a fundamentalist Wahhabi regime involved in spreading IslamoNazi terror. El-Sisi is a secular reformist.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
They were watching the protests from the start, inflaming them, arming the rebels, taking down the government. It would not and could not have happened without them; without Obama’s help and support. That’s why it never happened before in 40+ years.[/quote]
So you keep saying, and so you’ve said again, plus a bunch of “this is how it works!!!”
But you need evidence. Evidence. Obama started the war. It was just a few civil demonstrations, and he turned it into a rebellion. He inflamed a dozen protesters and BAM! War! Evidence. You either have it, or you don’t.
Not only did Obama gives billions to the Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, he tried to punish el-Sisi when he took control refusing to hand over F-16 aircraft Egypt had ordered. Of course Valerie Jarrett is such a close adviser to President Obama and Huma Abedin worked so closely with Hillary at the State Department on this. I mean we’re not allowed to ask any questions about Huma Abedin’s immediate family being members of the Muslim Brotherhood and Huma Abedin formerly acting as a mouthpiece for the Muslim Brotherhood. What are you questioning Obama’s patriotism? Yes I am! I’m questioning his patriotism like Rudy Giuliani and everyone else with a brain! The man is hostile to America and American values and interests. That’s the real meat and potatoes I’ve been trying to get at but you never have anything to say about that. As I said, those big brown eyes really have worked their charm on you.
Ad nauseam
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
Hey beansie, ya scrotum prospector, if I invaded your home and deadlifted yo bed with you n yo hag sleeping there, would you shoot me?
[/quote]
Dude, seriously?
That’s it?
/no bueno[/quote]
I know, it ain’t good, unless you have your gun by your bedside table, loaded and ready to shoot, it ain’t gonna do much for you.
Dat how you roll, beans? Or do you have to go open the gun cabinet to protect yourself and your freedom?