[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Why do Americans feel entitled to talk about the rest of the world yet when someone says something about America you have to live there to know something about it? [/quote]
Americans rarely talk about Europe. How many threads in the last 5 years have revolved around Europe? [/quote]
My favorite thing about European criticism of American politics is the extent to which our friends across the pond are existentially indebted to us with each passing day. [b]I am not talking about the World Wars[/b]. Rather I refer to the fact that the present balance of the world remains in Western favor by way and only by way of American might and influence. To take one small example, I was just reading a book in which the argument was made that EU member states have become so techno-militarily dependent on the U.S. that they essentially can’t conduct more than a minor military operation without American help. Like I said, that’s just one tiny example.
So, the next time a European makes to hate on the terrible racist 'Murican people (and certainly there are many terrible and racist Americans – as if the same could not be said of the hooligans who join in Nazi chants after soccer games in Europe), please go ahead. But remember, while you do, that those 'Murican people pay and sink into debt and volunteer for a (yes, flawed) government and military apparatus without which you are an infant left to be suckled or mauled by real wolves.
This is a general note and not very much related to what’s being said in this thread, because I don’t care enough to follow it on the details.[/quote]
[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Also if this is the case is the U.S forever in the debt of France?[/quote]
You seem to be having a difficult time reading what I wrote, so I’ve highlighted the portion of my original post that, if you’re inclined to read it, will disabuse you of at least one of the misconceptions under which you’re operating. Even cathedrals begin with but one stone.
Now, more generally, may I ask what your point is? What your argument is? What contention are you out to defend here? To my recollection – and I could be wrong, because this discussion has taken what I would call a fucking boring turn, and I haven’t been paying much attention – you opened with the contention that people who use nicknames like “Obummer” are, by that very fact, racist. Am I right? If so, would you care to share a single shred of evidence or logical argument in defense of that contention? Note that “there are racists in America” does not come remotely close to the kind of evidence or argument you’re looking for.
The partisan bent of this place can be tricky. It can appear, at first, like a Breitbart-commentsish spot. It isn’t. The rules of good argument tend to apply strictly here.
Edited to fix quote.[/quote]
No i said people who do a combo of the things on the list below are most likely racist:
Make name puns on Obama when they never did it before
Say Obama is a muslim
Say Obama was born in Africa
Supported bush but are now mad at obama for continuing to cut civil liberties
Say Obama is marxist
Basic intuition would say if you have a guy who says multiple things on the list he might be racist.
