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[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I love how white liberals get so offended on other peoples behalf.

No one is more hyper-sensitive about race than white liberals.

If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?

I bet it is. [/quote]

I am not offended by racism, I just wish white men had the balls to actually admit they are racist. Far left SJW and covert white racists are just as annoying and phony with their fake outrage.
I don’t care if you hate black people or Irish, or Poles or faggots or Spics, just be man enough to admit it and stand up for your opinion rather than hide it.

The amount of white men who in private with their mates will call football players on the TV niggers or wogs or moan about coloured immigration or muslims and then when in public will ct like they are part of the rainbow coalition is embarrassing. My race is loosing its nuts big time.
[/quote]

You mean like the leftist Sony execs?

Some of the most “racist” people I met are these well-intended white liberals. They are racist to the point where they don’t think minorities can make it on their own with Big Brother being there providing for them from cradle to grave. They really think like that. It’s like Wolf Blitzer famously said when describing the Kateina victims. “They are so poor, so black…” That’s really how they feel. They have this false compassion because they think they are less than us. [/quote]

liberals can be every bit as racist as republican party supporters. When did I claim Liberals, conservatives or leftists can not be racist?
The main difference is that while liberals can be racist there are not liberal KKK members or hate crimes committed by liberals, that is just reality. The right historically has been racist. Liberalism is not inherently racist where as right wing nationalism is.

But as I stated I don’t care, I have racist friends and family, if you are racist fine, just be man enough to admit it and face the consequences.
[/quote]

Come lad. Mordor is calling.

922

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I love how white liberals get so offended on other peoples behalf.

No one is more hyper-sensitive about race than white liberals.

If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?

I bet it is. [/quote]

I am not offended by racism, I just wish white men had the balls to actually admit they are racist. Far left SJW and covert white racists are just as annoying and phony with their fake outrage.
I don’t care if you hate black people or Irish, or Poles or faggots or Spics, just be man enough to admit it and stand up for your opinion rather than hide it.

The amount of white men who in private with their mates will call football players on the TV niggers or wogs or moan about coloured immigration or muslims and then when in public will ct like they are part of the rainbow coalition is embarrassing. My race is loosing its nuts big time.
[/quote]

You mean like the leftist Sony execs?

Some of the most “racist” people I met are these well-intended white liberals. They are racist to the point where they don’t think minorities can make it on their own with Big Brother being there providing for them from cradle to grave. They really think like that. It’s like Wolf Blitzer famously said when describing the Kateina victims. “They are so poor, so black…” That’s really how they feel. They have this false compassion because they think they are less than us. [/quote]

Also Sony execs are not leftists, left wingers (not liberals) don’t tend to be corporate execs. .[/quote]

Actually Sony Chief Executive Amy Pascal (A prominent Democrat and Obama fundraiser in Hollywood) was fired for writing the racist e-mails.

Try again sonny

923

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I hope I’m wrong I really do but watch Obama go for everyone’s guns now. I’m afraid it’s starting to become clear what’s going on here. The next stage will be disarmament.[/quote]

With two years left in his presidency?
[/quote]You’re ASSUMING there are only two years left in his presidency. In the next 15 months he has the potential to conjure up an “emergency” and declare Martial Law. [quote]

Even if we suppose that Obama is a Muslim, what exactly is he supposed to do once he’s out of the presidency? It’s not like any of his successors can possibly be Muslim as well and carry on whatever agenda he has.

Or do you think Obama plans on doing whatever he plans to do within the next two years? Do you believe he can topple the government and insert an Islamic government within 2 years?

I’m willing to bet you a lot of internet dollars that Angry_Chicken will attempt to take Obama’s life if even a genuine hint of an attempt to change the foundation of the U.S. government occurs.

[/quote]LMAO… Maybe in an alternative universe, but in THIS reality, I’ve got property in South America, property in rural Virginia and boat. I’m working on a second passport. I have three alternatives to be away from much of the bullshit.[quote]

…

To be serious for a second- The very design of the U.S. government prevents Obama from doing anything atm. Both the House and Senate are controlled by Republicans and will definitely remain in their hands until Obama leaves office. The best Obama can do is shut-down everything the Republicans attempt by vetoing every single piece of legislation they pass.

You couldn’t possibly be serious when you wrote “The next stage will be disarmament.” Obama holds no legal power to actually command such an order atm. Obama is in the same situation GWB was in after that particular midterm election. The only question now is whether the Republicans can manage to get their act together and actually work cohesively.

And suppose he somehow pulled some magical piece of legislation out of his ass that did order such a thing. No one will enforce it. We’d have the next civil war.[/quote]

Can’t wait.

924

Now were just going to pretend libertarians are “leftist”?

lol, wow. This really just gets better with every post. It isn’t enough to confuse Contemporary Liberal with Classically Liberal, now we’re pretending the Left and Right on the spectrum are the opposite?

925

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Kingdom: Animalia (he is, after all, just an animal)
Phylum: Chordata (he has a backbone, though rarely shows it)
Class: Mammalia (he sucked a tit and did not hatch from an egg)
Order: Primates (he is a primate)
Infraorder: Simiiformes (he is a monkey)
Family: Hominidae (he is an ape)
Tribe: Hominini (he is a humanlike ape)
Genus: Homo (he is a homo)
Species: H. sapiens sapiens (he is a modern human, though perhaps “postmodern” would suit him better)[/quote]

I fuckin’ luv you, dude. (no homo)

926

Given the pushoverness of the GOP, and should they win in 2016, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama’s ideological agenda is continued, despite their claims to being against his policies.
They’re all talk and no action, or at least not the action their voters elected them for, serving the same masters.
Biggest difference is that they’ll lie to your face about their priorities.
Seems almost like a one party system.

927

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]OGrady wrote:
Seriously though, foreign policy: I wish that porch monkey would just get off his ass and go to war already.[/quote]

I guess we can all take guesses on which former poster decided to fire up a new account and troll away.

Headhunter?

HoustonGuy?

NominalProspect?[/quote]

Houstonguy? Nah… he always had the same iteration of the Houston/texas thing. And is vastly more intelligent. [/quote]

Dropping the trolling for a moment…

Sorry to disappoint folks, I am just myself.

It seems strange to me to say that I am not intelligent when you have not, in fact, heard any of my actual opinions due to the use of satiric voice. What’s more, this Ad Hominem attack reveals an inability to separate a person, and their opinion, from an issue (including your own opinions). This skill is an essential part of dialectic discourse. You might be interested to know that my personal opinions on the Obama administration are actually quite moderate, and I go different ways on various issues. Satire is more effective when the satirist maintains objectivity, much like a journalist.

Any forum of political discussion (even one as frivolous as this) can benefit from a satirical voice. If people know they can be ridiculed by a target that they can’t target back – indeed, you have felt how frustrating (and impossible) it is to respond to a satirical statement seriously – they may start to measure their words more carefully, and tend towards a more moderate, constructive opinion.

In conclusion, don’t attack my beliefs – you don’t know them. Don’t attack my comedy – it makes you look ungracious for not laughing at the satire. DO start to consider that if somebody is poking fun at you (which is all I have done) that there might be a remote possibility that you may have drawn a false conclusion in your argument.

928

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I love how white liberals get so offended on other peoples behalf.

No one is more hyper-sensitive about race than white liberals.

If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?

I bet it is. [/quote]

I am not offended by racism, I just wish white men had the balls to actually admit they are racist. Far left SJW and covert white racists are just as annoying and phony with their fake outrage.
I don’t care if you hate black people or Irish, or Poles or faggots or Spics, just be man enough to admit it and stand up for your opinion rather than hide it.

The amount of white men who in private with their mates will call football players on the TV niggers or wogs or moan about coloured immigration or muslims and then when in public will ct like they are part of the rainbow coalition is embarrassing. My race is loosing its nuts big time.
[/quote]

You mean like the leftist Sony execs?

Some of the most “racist” people I met are these well-intended white liberals. They are racist to the point where they don’t think minorities can make it on their own with Big Brother being there providing for them from cradle to grave. They really think like that. It’s like Wolf Blitzer famously said when describing the Kateina victims. “They are so poor, so black…” That’s really how they feel. They have this false compassion because they think they are less than us. [/quote]

Also Sony execs are not leftists, left wingers (not liberals) don’t tend to be corporate execs. .[/quote]

Actually Sony Chief Executive Amy Pascal (A prominent Democrat and Obama fundraiser in Hollywood) was fired for writing the racist e-mails.

Try again sonny

Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.

929

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Now were just going to pretend libertarians are “leftist”?

lol, wow. This really just gets better with every post. It isn’t enough to confuse Contemporary Liberal with Classically Liberal, now we’re pretending the Left and Right on the spectrum are the opposite?

[/quote]

If you read properly, the term libertarian was created by anarchists in the 1600’s who were basically pre marxist communists. A basic history book could tell you that.

930

[quote]OGrady wrote:

In conclusion, don’t attack my beliefs – you don’t know them. [/quote]

You might want to step down off this high horse and be cognizant of the fact you aren’t the only person on the internet, or even this board, to come in here in the ridiculous way you did.

In fact, all this “satire” you’ve failed at delivering is very tired, and the least original approach people take when jumping in here.

You weren’t funny. You weren’t enlightening, and you weren’t doing anything but acting like an asshole.

Fucks I give about how I look = 0.

There are plenty of people who post here who’s opinion I do care about. Yours? Nope.

[quote] DO start to consider that if somebody is poking fun at you (which is all I have done) that there might be a remote possibility that you may have drawn a false conclusion in your argument.
[/quote]

I did consider it. Being as you choose to make stupid, unfunny, unoriginal posts your position became one of obvious troll, unprepared to actually address anything of substance.

Protip: none of us actually believe a single ounce of the nonsense you’ve written here. You got caught being stupid, and now you’re trying to backpedal and project your own short comings on others.

931

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.
[/quote]

Not in America…

Maybe after 12 times this will sink in. I think this is 8 or so.

933

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Now were just going to pretend libertarians are “leftist”?

lol, wow. This really just gets better with every post. It isn’t enough to confuse Contemporary Liberal with Classically Liberal, now we’re pretending the Left and Right on the spectrum are the opposite?

[/quote]

If you read properly, the term libertarian was created by anarchists in the 1600’s who were basically pre marxist communists. A basic history book could tell you that.[/quote]

OOOOHHHHHH, right, I forgot, we can just change connotation of words between 400 years of usage to adapt to our shit arguments.

Carry on fine solider. Carry on.

934

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.
[/quote]

Not in America…

Maybe after 12 times this will sink in. I think this is 8 or so. [/quote]

It won’t. ever sink in. He’s so ethnocentric he can’t even grasp the concept.

935

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Now were just going to pretend libertarians are “leftist”?

lol, wow. This really just gets better with every post. It isn’t enough to confuse Contemporary Liberal with Classically Liberal, now we’re pretending the Left and Right on the spectrum are the opposite?

[/quote]

If you read properly, the term libertarian was created by anarchists in the 1600’s who were basically pre marxist communists. A basic history book could tell you that.[/quote]

OOOOHHHHHH, right, I forgot, we can just change connotation of words between 400 years of usage to adapt to our shit arguments.

Carry on fine solider. Carry on. [/quote]

America is the only place it means that. American pro capitalists basically took a name widely in use by a movement completely opposite from them a few decades ago and now you want me to use the new definition over the one used everywhere else?

936

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.
[/quote]

Not in America…

Maybe after 12 times this will sink in. I think this is 8 or so. [/quote]

The Centre Party in germany were not left wing just because the Nazi’s were even further right. Left wing is left wing, Obama is by no credible standards left wing.
Unless you think he is a secret Marxist Muslim. For which there is no evidence.

937

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.
[/quote]

Not in America…

Maybe after 12 times this will sink in. I think this is 8 or so. [/quote]

The Centre Party in germany were not left wing just because the Nazi’s were even further right. Left wing is left wing, Obama is by no credible standards left wing.
Unless you think he is a secret Marxist Muslim. For which there is no evidence.[/quote]

I think this was point out already, we don’t really care how Europeans do things…

938

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Why do Americans feel entitled to talk about the rest of the world yet when someone says something about America you have to live there to know something about it? [/quote]

Americans rarely talk about Europe. How many threads in the last 5 years have revolved around Europe? [/quote]

My favorite thing about European criticism of American politics is the extent to which our friends across the pond are existentially indebted to us with each passing day. [b]I am not talking about the World Wars[/b]. Rather I refer to the fact that the present balance of the world remains in Western favor by way and only by way of American might and influence. To take one small example, I was just reading a book in which the argument was made that EU member states have become so techno-militarily dependent on the U.S. that they essentially can’t conduct more than a minor military operation without American help. Like I said, that’s just one tiny example.

So, the next time a European makes to hate on the terrible racist 'Murican people (and certainly there are many terrible and racist Americans – as if the same could not be said of the hooligans who join in Nazi chants after soccer games in Europe), please go ahead. But remember, while you do, that those 'Murican people pay and sink into debt and volunteer for a (yes, flawed) government and military apparatus without which you are an infant left to be suckled or mauled by real wolves.

This is a general note and not very much related to what’s being said in this thread, because I don’t care enough to follow it on the details.[/quote]

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

Also if this is the case is the U.S forever in the debt of France?[/quote]

You seem to be having a difficult time reading what I wrote, so I’ve highlighted the portion of my original post that, if you’re inclined to read it, will disabuse you of at least one of the misconceptions under which you’re operating. Even cathedrals begin with but one stone.

Now, more generally, may I ask what your point is? What your argument is? What contention are you out to defend here? To my recollection – and I could be wrong, because this discussion has taken what I would call a fucking boring turn, and I haven’t been paying much attention – you opened with the contention that people who use nicknames like “Obummer” are, by that very fact, racist. Am I right? If so, would you care to share a single shred of evidence or logical argument in defense of that contention? Note that “there are racists in America” does not come remotely close to the kind of evidence or argument you’re looking for.

The partisan bent of this place can be tricky. It can appear, at first, like a Breitbart-commentsish spot. It isn’t. The rules of good argument tend to apply strictly here.

Edited to fix quote.

939

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
Obama is not left wing. He is a liberal. Leftists hate liberals. Obama is further to the right that the UK conservatives.
[/quote]

Not in America…

Maybe after 12 times this will sink in. I think this is 8 or so. [/quote]

The Centre Party in germany were not left wing just because the Nazi’s were even further right. Left wing is left wing, Obama is by no credible standards left wing.
Unless you think he is a secret Marxist Muslim. For which there is no evidence.[/quote]

I think this was point out already, we don’t really care how Europeans do things… [/quote]

But Euros have NO problem jumping in and telling us what WE should be thinking and doing.

940

[quote]Musashi92 wrote:

America is the only place it means that. [/quote]

Right, and we’re talking about Obama, the President of the United States of America.

When we talk about the EU, we’ll be sure to give two shits what connotation libertarian has there.