[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
Your kidding me, right?
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If I am, it’s unintentional.
What do you think I’m kidding you about?
That Putin rides a motorcycle, that he’s unmarried, or that he’s rumored to be dating the gymnast?
Be specific, Brett.[/quote]
I was stunned at the gymnast. I guess it’s good to be King.
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
Your kidding me, right?
[/quote]
If I am, it’s unintentional.
What do you think I’m kidding you about?
That Putin rides a motorcycle, that he’s unmarried, or that he’s rumored to be dating the gymnast?
Be specific, Brett.[/quote]
I was stunned at the gymnast. I guess it’s good to be King.
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Oh yeah.
Putin has taste, I’ll give him that.
Not only pretty, but limber, and with mad skillz.
Meanwhile, in America, Michelle Obama.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
A general, a special forces officer, and, as we see, a hotshot combat pilot.
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Community organizer is way more badass
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
I completely support the decision to publicly hang the prisoners. I just wish they had killed all of them.
Also, in what I am sure is a PR coup, King Abdullah led a bombing raid the next morning, in person. Abdullah for King! …wait…[/quote]
King Abdullah is a certified badass. He is in my mind the Vladimir Putin of the Middle East.
A general, a special forces officer, and, as we see, a hotshot combat pilot.
Firearms enthusiasts might be interested to know that he is also the world’s only head of state to have been certified by Jeff Cooper at Gunsite training centre, and as such is more qualified in the use of his sidearm than his own bodyguards, or even than the Secret Service.
Good to see that some countries have actual men for leaders.
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Don’t forget the absolute hottie for a wife, and motorcycle riding[/quote]
Haven’t forgot. Remember I said “the Vladimir Putin of the Middle East”. Putin rides a chopper, and although he is currently unmarried, rumour has it he’s been dallying with Alina Kabayeva, a gorgeous Uzbek gymnast half his age.
And good for him if it’s true.[/quote]
Dude if someone that’s good at photo-shop put blonde hair on her, cleans up her unibrow and puts a mole on here cheek, she’s literally Kate Upton.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
I in now way feel this is a justification for ISIS or AQ, but I have always thought that this time period of Islamic fanaticism has a parallel to the crusades.
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To have a parallel they would need to be comparable. They’re not.[/quote]
True! tbe christians sure did slaughter a lot of muslims,tens of thousands or more,and Jews. But that was a really long time ago and a very different thing.
[quote]confusion wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
I in now way feel this is a justification for ISIS or AQ, but I have always thought that this time period of Islamic fanaticism has a parallel to the crusades.
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To have a parallel they would need to be comparable. They’re not.[/quote]
True! tbe christians sure did slaughter a lot of muslims,tens of thousands or more,and Jews. But that was a really long time ago and a very different thing.[/quote]
Kind of playing devil’s advocate here but…How is it not comparable? A couple leaders get the idea that this patch of land is theirs by the word of god, fires up followers, mass immigration to the area, slaughter and hijinks ensue in the name of god…
The methodologies might differ, but people killing people in the name of their one true god is kind of old school stuff.
[QUOTE]pushharder wrote:
^ [and the classic, “Hitler was a Christian” line that gets the gold from me consistently]
[Here it comes…any minute now…][/QUOTE]
Hitler both promoted and claimed Christianity and ridiculed and damned it. Hitler Championed cultural christian tradition while also allowing Himmler to build monuments in France to ancient “Pagan victims of genocide by christians”
Here he rails against the faith:
Here he supports it:
[quote] â??The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.â?? [/quote]
[quote] â??My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, Godâ??s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justiceâ?¦ And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.â?? [/quote]
[quote] â??And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.â?? [/quote]
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
Kind of playing devil’s advocate here but…How is it not comparable?
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The Crusades were a response to a few hundred years of Muslim aggression.
The Crusaders didn’t attack and slaughter other Christians.
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Huh?
Tell me, o wise one, what is the origin of the expression “kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out”?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
Kind of playing devil’s advocate here but…How is it not comparable?
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The Crusades were a response to a few hundred years of Muslim aggression.
The Crusaders didn’t attack and slaughter other Christians.
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Well,the 1st part of your statement is false. The second part is true,sort of…they did after all,attack Byzantium in the first crusade(and got spanked)and again later. Regardless,the crusaders killed countless numbers of innocent civilians,many times out of sheer anger and disregard for Muslim lives. Oh well? Confusion
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
I completely support the decision to publicly hang the prisoners. I just wish they had killed all of them.
Also, in what I am sure is a PR coup, King Abdullah led a bombing raid the next morning, in person. Abdullah for King! …wait…[/quote]
King Abdullah is a certified badass. He is in my mind the Vladimir Putin of the Middle East.
A general, a special forces officer, and, as we see, a hotshot combat pilot.
Firearms enthusiasts might be interested to know that he is also the world’s only head of state to have been certified by Jeff Cooper at Gunsite training centre, and as such is more qualified in the use of his sidearm than his own bodyguards, or even than the Secret Service.
Good to see that some countries have actual men for leaders.
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He even drives his own car.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
I completely support the decision to publicly hang the prisoners. I just wish they had killed all of them.
Also, in what I am sure is a PR coup, King Abdullah led a bombing raid the next morning, in person. Abdullah for King! …wait…[/quote]
King Abdullah is a certified badass. He is in my mind the Vladimir Putin of the Middle East.
A general, a special forces officer, and, as we see, a hotshot combat pilot.
Firearms enthusiasts might be interested to know that he is also the world’s only head of state to have been certified by Jeff Cooper at Gunsite training centre, and as such is more qualified in the use of his sidearm than his own bodyguards, or even than the Secret Service.
Good to see that some countries have actual men for leaders.
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Don’t forget the absolute hottie for a wife, and motorcycle riding[/quote]
Haven’t forgot. Remember I said “the Vladimir Putin of the Middle East”. Putin rides a chopper, and although he is currently unmarried, rumour has it he’s been dallying with Alina Kabayeva, a gorgeous Uzbek gymnast half his age.
And good for him if it’s true.[/quote]
Jesus Christ. It’s like he is straight out of a movie.
Also… Jesus fucking Christ with the “Christians did bad things” bullshit.
Good God. If anyone is dumb enough to compare what happen that long ago, to what these people are doing in 2015, and thing it is even a worthwhile conversation, understand you are literally a total moron, or have an agenda so thick, you can’t not be biased to the point fo dumbass.
We aren’t comparing Quarterbacks across decades here.
Get the fuck over the crusades, and get the fuck over Christians. We get it, you don’t like them. Now shut the fuck up about it.
This thread has nothing to do with Christianity. If you brought up the crusades or Christians, you are literally outing yourself as a bigot.
Yeah and who gives a crap if they hung these two terrorists or not? They were already on death row, the woman in particular for being part of an attack on a Jordanian hotel which killed 60 people. Shit, in my hometown there’s a guy who’s been on death row since the late 80’s and the crimes he committed against a small unarmed child would make for a good horror film but no one has the balls to end his life and he’s still alive almost thirty years later.
These ISIS terrorists are scum and should be treated as such. They cry when we bomb their “women and children” and yet showed a video of a little kid executing some Russians. If that’s the case, well your women and children are fair game. They burned this pilot alive and, as far as executing the two terrorists, sure it was an emotional response, sure it was a gut reaction and total revenge, but that’s the kind of thing ISIS understands, so I say go for it. After all Mohammad said attack your enemy the way they attack you, and finally, someone’s had the freaking balls to do it.
[quote]Severiano wrote:
End of the day, the act of killing in revenge like that isn’t tied to any sort of justice we should be comfortable with. What’s next? Punishing next of kin for shit?
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If Jihad Johnny had your brother with a knife to his neck and was threatening to kill him what length would you go to make him stop? Threaten his next of kin with retaliation if your brother was hurt? Obviously pleading for the lives of these poor defenseless hostages is of no use.
According to legend, back in Lebanon during the civil war circa 1983, right around the time of the devastating US Marine and French Embassy bombings, the terrorists (Hezbollah?) threatened to attack the Russian Embassy as well. What did the Russians do? First they parked a Druse tank in front of the Embassy and said, “send your trucks any time you dare.”
Then the KGB captured one of the terrorists, cut off his nuts and sent them to the others as a warning. So far, best as I know, the Russian Embassy in Lebanon, if it even still exists, hasn’t been attacked.
The Russians taught terrorism classes in their colleges…they obviously know and understand how to effectively speak terrorist.
