John Romaniello Scandal

So we’re really still believing allegations of sexual assault, without requiring proof, huh?

Given how many of them felt as though they couldn’t say no, how free were they? I think Romaniello called anal sex, freedom sex.

I think our boy took the old “piihp!” And “Have you tried hitting her?” way too damn seriously.

John, if you’re reading this- It was just a joke dude!

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I don’t think anyone has said they were true. But we are saying that whether true or not or somewhere in between, it’s the byproduct of a degenerate and empty lifestyle. Romaniello is a douchey creep; it finally caught up to him.

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The last person he can laugh at is himself.

I really wish I didn’t agree with you, but I do.

The Nanny State really did a number on what used to be a proud people.

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Nope. In a world of unicorns and sea creature-sexuals, I still believe words have meaning, and tossing around accusations and implications of serious crimes should require evidence.

:man_shrugging:t2:. But I’m old and stupid & probably about to be called a boomer.

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Why can’t it be people who enjoy sex without a singular, committed partner? Is it impossible to believe that people can exist in a different plane than you?

Same question.

Well, Romaniello is married, so why get married if you want to screw other people, in the ass?

And given what’s happening, maybe what is being idealized, isn’t really ideal.

I’m not in a polyamorous relationship so I couldn’t say for sure but my guess is they find a connection on a level other than sexual exclusivity, and aren’t hung up on sex with others.

Maybe. Again, I’m not in a polyamorous relationship so I’m not an authority here but I know of some marriages that have been incredibly toxic and potentially irreversibly damaging. Are marriages not ideal, considering?

He also has an ex wife, so maybe it’s not that easy to live with.

Relative to polyamory bs? Yes. Some couples should not be married but I would bet even more should not be in polyamory. In other words, polyamory is not an alternative. Probably because it emphasizes sex more than love in spite of the name. I think the grift is that it’s love but it’s just someone who wants sex with more than one person. The problems arise when the other person figures that out.

Freedom requires responsibility… these cretins don’t understand

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Hey, so because I know you’re reasonably well-read in this sphere, I have a question for you that I hope is received in good-faith.

If we assume women are hypergamous,

And we assume the global sexual marketplace gives unprecedented sexual access to women (and men, to be fair) such that the average women refuses to marry the average man (because her standards are set by the men she was with before him),

And we assume this to mean the top ~20% of men have sexual access to the top ~80% of women…

Keeping personal morals aside, why would society not revert to polyamory?
This is very standard for all hyper-competitive sexual marketplaces. The strongest man/men have all the women.

*There are a lot of assumptions here. Assumptions I do believe you agree with, for the most part. I would like to discuss the question at hand, though I’m happy to expand on any nuances needed to answer it.

Trying to force fit the Pareto Principle?

The top 80% of women has a good many women who have about a zero chance at nabbing a top 20% man. But I suppose there are some of those top 20% men that would jump in the sack with any woman that is warm.

No, this is the data that was first shown on OkCupid, then replicated on Tinder Hinge, if memory serves.
Of course, it does happen to mimic the Pareto Principle, but I think this is more coincidence than anything. It is an outcropping of online dating being the new norm, though.

20% of men get 80% of the matches
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something along the lines of this graph
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Well, these women have plenty of opportunity for sex with them - but they are likely unable to secure commitment from a man. Often times, they do not understand this, which leads to the “situationship” where a woman is waiting for a man to start committing to her, and never does. Most of these women believe they are the exception (they’re told they’re special from the day they were born), or that they will change the man; they rarely do.

I have a nice collection of FR welding caps. Otherwise, after years of stick & fluxcore overhead I’d look like Freddy Krueger.

This is a little bit of a non-sequitur though. 41% of first marriages end in divorce. 61% of second marriages and 73% of third marriages do. Surely they’re not all polyamorous.

Again, before fingers point at me or a five year old (not by you necessarily) I’m not in a polyamorous relationship and we don’t swing. My kid is focused on riding a bike and cartoons. But I wonder how many marriages with a different sexual policy than the norm are happy. I don’t think this is measured, so it’s hard to balance.

I could’ve sworn divorce rates were higher though. I did see rates have been declining over the last ten years. Interesting if overlayed against the backdrop of traditional values, also in decline. As an aside.

Is it a grift though? I love my wife. I see women I would I thoroughly enjoy banging every day. I don’t because I made a commitment. But it doesn’t mean I don’t love my wife. The crux is that I am honoring our chosen marriage vows and commitment. If I did screw another woman I would still love my wife. None of the emotion would be gone. I can see a scenario where two people who are upfront and honest about intentions could pull it off. Sex and love aren’t mutually exclusive.

Again, it’s not my lifestyle. Tying back to the original topic of whether or not assaults occurred, I don’t think the fact John is divorced or in open relationships makes him a degenerate rapist, necessarily. He could be one, but the mutual exclusivity you’re trying tie together from a very puritanical viewpoint doesn’t really wash as you try his character from comments online.

Why does it seem as if for the past two decades there has at all times been a high-status man or attractive male college student accused of sexual crimes?

Why are these high-status men always with women to abuse? Shouldn’t they be incels considering their bad ways?

Makes ya wonder. :wink:

Accusations and the wrecking of men’s reputations, and in some cases, even their lives, are part and parcel of sexual “liberation”. So is danger to women. Refer to Sexual Utopia in Power by F. Roger Devlin and the New Politics of Sex by Dr. Stephen Baskerville, two books I’ve routinely recommended, to learn how they are.

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Sexual liberation does far more harm to women than men, but we are suffering via the residual consequences of false accusations

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From my posts in these threads about sex, I’m obviously not a white knight, simp, or male feminist. However, I will say that most attractive women I know from my younger years and on have been in stupid and dangerous positions with men in which they were actual victims of sexual misconduct or felt enormous pressure to engage or had close calls in places and around people they shouldn’t have been.