I’m sorry if this has been posted before.
It seems the members of the Bodybuilding Nutrition Roundtable over at EliteFTS, disagree with some of JB’s nutrition recommendations. Especially the idea that one should not mix C+F in one meal.
Just thought I’d post it here to get some thoughts on the matter.
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/bodybuilder_nutrition.htm
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This has been posted before.
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The P/C and P/F eating ideas are not Berardi’s. In fact he doesn’t agree with them himself.
[quote]magnusjs wrote:
I’m sorry if this has been posted before.
It seems the members of the Bodybuilding Nutrition Roundtable over at EliteFTS, disagree with some of JB’s nutrition recommendations. Especially the idea that one should not mix C+F in one meal.
Just thought I’d post it here to get some thoughts on the matter.
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/bodybuilder_nutrition.htm[/quote]
Yep. There are lots of different approaches out there. Berardi’s stuff works great for some. Not so well for others. (I would balloon up if I followed his calorie recommendations/formula.)
Does this mean Berardi is right or wrong? Nope – It means some should take his stuff as Gospels and others as heresy. That pretty much applies to most things you read.
Try everything and find what works for yourself and stop worrying about what the latest name in fitness or nutrition thinks.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
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This has been posted before.
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The P/C and P/F eating ideas are not Berardi’s. In fact he doesn’t agree with them himself.[/quote]
I thought he still advocated it. Anyhow, I only do P+F fat as my last two meals. This, even though – for shame! – everyone in that round table thinks it’s silly to note eat carbs after 6 p.m. No carbs after 5 p.m. works for my body.
I do eat P+F+C for my other meals - around 33% of each. I gave Berardi’s P+C for the first two to three meals a try and felt like garbage. Other guys do great on that approach.
Which just goes to shoe people aren’t types: People are people. Everyone needs to find his way.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I thought he still advocated it.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say he’s totally against it, he just doesn’t think it’s enough.
Just wanted to point out that this was an article that appeared on the elitefts.com website (and also on bb.com and a few other places).
It was not written by anyone on the Elite Fitness Systems advisory team.
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AC
Correct me when I am wrong, but following a timeline of info release didn’t PN come after the “P+F, C+P, but not C+F” stuff? I’m just saying that PN doesn’t talk about this that much or at all. I love putting olive oil on my vegetables.
I wonder if the C+F stuff was in reference to mash potatoes, butter, and gravy meal or other similar mixes of starchy carbs and oils.
[quote]chubs108 wrote:
Correct me when I am wrong, but following a timeline of info release didn’t PN come after the “P+F, C+P, but not C+F” stuff? I’m just saying that PN doesn’t talk about this that much or at all. I love putting olive oil on my vegetables.
I wonder if the C+F stuff was in reference to mash potatoes, butter, and gravy meal or other similar mixes of starchy carbs and oils.[/quote]
I would say that’s probably true. A C+F meal would mainly contain fat and starchy type carbs. Veggies can, and should be, a part of every single meal.
Typically you would never ever have a C+F meal, no matter what type of diet plan you are on. You always want some sort of protein in every meal. A good example of a C+F meal would be a bucket of french fries or onion rings (albeit an unhealthy example).
So a C+P+F meal is ok at times, as long as it meets your dietary goals and the food is clean. Adding chicken to those onion rings is still not a good meal. But brown rice, chicken/steak, and some healthy fats (eggs/olive oil/etc.) would be ok.