I always lived by Berardi’s first articles that taught P+F and P+C. It seems all his new recipies are mixed though. Does anyone know if he changed his ideas? Have any refs?
Probably not, post sample recipe? You can have a little fat in a P/C meal just not top it off with 3 cups of sour cream, etc.
I think he recommended keeping the F or the C to 10 grams.
I’ve just got my hand on a copy of Precision Nutrition and I was surprised that the recipes had so many carbs in. But, if you look at the diet plans in more detail he advises carbs only after workouts - and these carbs are good (or better) carbs. I think maybe he’s going for a more balanced approach.
I’m fairly certain he backed away from the P+F, P+C. I have no references.
I don’t know if JB’s “backed away” from the P+C or P+F meals so much as he’s “refined” his approach.
Take a read of the following:
The 7 habits article is similar to what is in PN, here’s a copy of the habits:
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Eat every 2-3 hours, no matter what. You should eat between 5-8 meals per day.
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Eat complete (containing all the essential amino acids), lean protein with each meal.
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Eat fruits and/or vegetables with each food meal.
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Ensure that your carbohydrate intake comes from fruits and vegetables. Exception: workout and post-workout drinks and meals.
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Ensure that 25-35% of your energy intake comes from fat, with your fat intake split equally between saturates (e.g. animal fat), monounsaturates (e.g., olive oil), and polyunsaturates (e.g. flax oil, salmon oil).
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Drink only non-calorie containing beverages, the best choices being water and green tea.
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Eat mostly whole foods (except workout and post-workout drinks).[/quote]
And for a more comprehensive understanding of his current methods, read the “tailor-made series” and his G-flux article.
Here’s the link to the first part of the series:
anndd…now hes going vegetarian for a while, so he’s gonna be mixing all 3 at every meal
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.
[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.[/quote]
Exactly, that’s why I eat a pizza before I go to bed.
[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.[/quote]
That’s a pretty absolute statement. Do you care to clarify to the extent you hold this “truth”?
For example, taken as written, it would imply you do not view the post-training period as requiring fast absorbing carbs and protein.
[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.
That’s a pretty absolute statement. Do you care to clarify to the extent you hold this “truth”?
For example, taken as written, it would imply you do not view the post-training period as requiring fast absorbing carbs and protein.
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while coupling carbs and protein around a workout is a good idea, the idea that one must drink a fast absorbing carb+protein drink immediately post workout is overblown by supplement companies.
the reason for this is, unless you are working out in a completely fasted state (which you shouldnt be anyway) you will already have amino acids in the blood stream and elevated insulin (the notion that you must “spike” insulin is unfounded, as moderately elevated levels will achieve the same effect)
so while putting carbs and protein around training is a good idea (to get the body into an anabolic state) that isn’t to say you cant have some fat around this period, or that you should shun carbs during other parts of the day.
[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.
That’s a pretty absolute statement. Do you care to clarify to the extent you hold this “truth”?
For example, taken as written, it would imply you do not view the post-training period as requiring fast absorbing carbs and protein.
while coupling carbs and protein around a workout is a good idea, the idea that one must drink a fast absorbing carb+protein drink immediately post workout is overblown by supplement companies.
the reason for this is, unless you are working out in a completely fasted state (which you shouldnt be anyway) you will already have amino acids in the blood stream and elevated insulin (the notion that you must “spike” insulin is unfounded, as moderately elevated levels will achieve the same effect)
so while putting carbs and protein around training is a good idea (to get the body into an anabolic state) that isn’t to say you cant have some fat around this period, or that you should shun carbs during other parts of the day.[/quote]
Fair enough, I agree it’s overhyped for marketing purposes. I was only using that as an example to guage the “absoluteness” of your previous statement.
However, I think your original statement was too simplistic unless you qualify it by mentioning some type of guidelines regarding macronutrient breakdown on an overall level and portion size/frequency.
[quote]B rocK wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:
how many times is this going to come up? macro combinations within meals don’t matter. never have, never will.
solid food digests slowly and nutrients are always overlapping in the bloodstream, so meticulous separation of macronutrients will never make a bit of difference in the real world.
Exactly, that’s why I eat a pizza before I go to bed.[/quote]
This almost made me spit my 1,200 calorie milkshake out my nose!
also P+F around bet time is recommended because the fat will help slow down digestion.
which helps delay amino acids into the bloodstream to hold over fasting as long as possible.
also, since peristalsis is slowed during sleep, having a bunch of carbs in there is gonna make you gassy and more bloated in the morning than if you didnt.