Jiu Jitsu and Lifting

So the basic idea of what y’all seem to be telling me is that I should lower the liting and concentrate more on the rolling. And once I become more advanced with my rolling I can increase the lifting in accordance with my rolling intensity and recovery.

Its all about balance.

Keep your jujitsu classes short, never going over an hour is possible. The same could be said of your gym sessions.

I do all sorts of stuff, from Jujitsu, rock climbing, workin out, mountain biking, snoboarding, hiking, going to the field for sprint and plyo work. What Ive continuesly found is that as long as my workout sessions, be it any of the activities above, are an hour or less, 4 times a week, Im fine. So i train 4 hours a week. Thats my threshhold. Somedays Im full of energy and I’ll squeeze in rock climbing and JJ on the same day.

[quote]SurfRat wrote:
So the basic idea of what y’all seem to be telling me is that I should lower the liting and concentrate more on the rolling. And once I become more advanced with my rolling I can increase the lifting in accordance with my rolling intensity and recovery. [/quote]

It really depends on what is important to you. Don’t try to become a jack of all trades, sometimes it will stall your progress. Know what it is you want to focus on, and then use the other as a supplement.

[quote]SurfRat wrote:
So the basic idea of what y’all seem to be telling me is that I should lower the liting and concentrate more on the rolling. And once I become more advanced with my rolling I can increase the lifting in accordance with my rolling intensity and recovery. [/quote]

I would tell you the complete opposite to be honest, and I think most here would agree Im right.

Here is the thing - The best JJ guys Ive ever seen were extremely good, explosive athletes. They were functionally strong.

You could concentrate your training on such goals. Lift to become a more explosive, functional athlete. This way, not only are you training in the gym, you are almost training in JJ as well. By becoming more functionally strong, your doing as justice to yourself as if you was on the mat rolling. Killing two birds with one stone. Focus less on the mirror and more on results.

How does one lift for explosive, athletic strength? I would say the olympic lifts are a good start. Do a search

[quote]Nicholas F wrote:

I would tell you the complete opposite to be honest, and I think most here would agree Im right.

Here is the thing - The best JJ guys Ive ever seen were extremely good, explosive athletes. They were functionally strong.

You could concentrate your training on such goals. Lift to become a more explosive, functional athlete. This way, not only are you training in the gym, you are almost training in JJ as well. By becoming more functionally strong, your doing as justice to yourself as if you was on the mat rolling. Killing two birds with one stone. Focus less on the mirror and more on results.

How does one lift for explosive, athletic strength? I would say the olympic lifts are a good start. Do a search[/quote]

Olympic lifts are hard for me to do since no one in my gym does them, or seems to be able to give a good critique of my efforts when I would try them. I have read some of the articles on here about them, but seeing it done correctly and trying to teach yourself without a coach seems to be a little hard.

Although on the first and last rep of every set of high pulls I do catch it into a clean, but that is the extent of my olympic lifing abilities.

I was hoping that the GPP work would help with some explosive strength training. I was hoping the sprints would help with my acceleration. And the Sandbag work contains circuits of cleans, push-presses and throwing, I was under the impression that these would help with my explosive strength. It is a modified version of Underground Strength Training by Zach Even-Esh, I know he has experience training grapplers and wrestlers as well as many other athletes.

Hopefully the circuits and sprints will also increase my endurance. Just after the last week of this program I have noticed that my endurance was increased in class. But, I think it is still too soon to really evaluate how this program is/will work for me.

I was actually looking into a mixed martial arts program offered through my school. I compete in powerlifting- I do ok, I’m not Ed Coan or anything- so I was thinking of doing this more as a hobby 2-3X a week for a total of like 4 hours; I have college nationals in lifting in the spring and another meet in December so I don’t plan on competing in martial arts at this point in time.

So is it too much to include something like 4-5 hours of martial arts? From some of the posts I’ve read it sounds like that might end up in overtraining.

[quote]saavedra wrote:
I was actually looking into a mixed martial arts program offered through my school. I compete in powerlifting- I do ok, I’m not Ed Coan or anything- so I was thinking of doing this more as a hobby 2-3X a week for a total of like 4 hours; I have college nationals in lifting in the spring and another meet in December so I don’t plan on competing in martial arts at this point in time.

So is it too much to include something like 4-5 hours of martial arts? From some of the posts I’ve read it sounds like that might end up in overtraining.[/quote]

One must take a backseat at times. If you are preparing for a meet, do martial arts less. if you’re preparing for a martial arts competition, do a different routine

Ok I can’t believe no one suggested the ‘One Lift a Day’ idea. You do the jits then about, oh, a half hour later do one lift. Monday-Dips, Tuesday-pullups, Wednesday- squat etc. Do like…10x3 or w/e.

[quote]t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok I can’t believe no one suggested the ‘One Lift a Day’ idea. You do the jits then about, oh, a half hour later do one lift. Monday-Dips, Tuesday-pullups, Wednesday- squat etc. Do like…10x3 or w/e.[/quote]

No offense, but that sounds like a horrible idea.

2-3 full body training sessions per week is a good way to weight train and train BJJ at the same time.

Keep the volume low and use periodization in which the weights are ramped up over 3-4 week (or so) training blocks.