Hahahahahaha!
Teacher: “…and had it been put in the Old Testament, Harry Potter would have been put to death!”
Students: “Amen!”
at least they discuss other literature than the bible…?
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I’m not so sure. I’ve known some people who were seriously messed up by what their parents religion did to them as children. And I’m not joking either; I’m talking about seriously disturbed people.
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More disturbed than gang bangers killing people for respect?[/quote]
Like you have a clue about gang motives or psychology.
[quote]drewh wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I’m not so sure. I’ve known some people who were seriously messed up by what their parents religion did to them as children. And I’m not joking either; I’m talking about seriously disturbed people.
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More disturbed than gang bangers killing people for respect?[/quote]
Like you have a clue about gang motives or psychology.[/quote]
Because there is a reasonable explanation for gang violence?
Since I mentioned I am pentecostal…I believe people can speak in tongues, specifically when God speaks through a person or when ministering to someone whos language you dont speak. The women in this video was blatantly doing something that for me concretes her as a total fake. Ok! now lets all speak in tongues! If you can’t god doesnt love you…
She is also very very hateful to the extreme. I guess people rarely use Jesus as an example of how we should all act.
Do I think children should be taken to church and go to sunday school etc…absolutely. the jesus camp is just crazy because of the people.
[quote]Petermus wrote:
Since I mentioned I am pentecostal…I believe people can speak in tongues, specifically when God speaks through a person or when ministering to someone whos language you dont speak. The women in this video was blatantly doing something that for me concretes her as a total fake. Ok! now lets all speak in tongues! If you can’t god doesnt love you…
She is also very very hateful to the extreme. I guess people rarely use Jesus as an example of how we should all act.
Do I think children should be taken to church and go to sunday school etc…absolutely. the jesus camp is just crazy because of the people.
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I understand speaking in tongues just to mean understanding one another. Meaning one person may speak only spanish and the other only english, but they can understand one another.
Anyways, just my take.
[quote]drewh wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I’m not so sure. I’ve known some people who were seriously messed up by what their parents religion did to them as children. And I’m not joking either; I’m talking about seriously disturbed people.
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More disturbed than gang bangers killing people for respect?[/quote]
Like you have a clue about gang motives or psychology.[/quote]
I don’t. And I don’t have any need to know. It is still seriously messed up.
Just like I bet nobody in this thread has a clue about these religious nutters motives or psychology. It doesn’t mean we can’t say it is messed up.
[quote]Petermus wrote:
Since I mentioned I am pentecostal…I believe people can speak in tongues, specifically when God speaks through a person or when ministering to someone whos language you dont speak. The women in this video was blatantly doing something that for me concretes her as a total fake. Ok! now lets all speak in tongues! If you can’t god doesnt love you…
She is also very very hateful to the extreme. I guess people rarely use Jesus as an example of how we should all act.
Do I think children should be taken to church and go to sunday school etc…absolutely. the jesus camp is just crazy because of the people.
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And other christian faiths that don’t speak in tongues? Are they less connecred to god or something. serious question
“And other christian faiths that don’t speak in tongues? Are they less connecred to god or something. serious question”
Speaking in tongues or glossalalia was considered by N.T. Christians as a God-given sign accompanying the baptism in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4). This Biblical pattern for the Spirit-filled life is still valid for us today.
Tongues is the initial outward sign of the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Speaking in tongues is an inspired utterance whereby the spirit of the believer and the Holy Spirit join in verbal praise and/or prophecy.
The primary purpose of the baptism in the Spirit is the receiving of power to witness for Christ, in order to win the lost to Him and to teach them to observe all that Christ commanded (Acts 1:8). The end results is that christ may be known, loved, honored, praised, and Lord of God’s chosen people (Matt. 28:18-20).
The baptism does not relate to personal salvation and regeneration (John 3:16), but only to the power within the believer to witness with great effect.
I saw this movie in its entirety. Guess what two word adjective I would use to describe this people? Hint, it involves a flying mammal.
Speaking in tongues is a joke. Anyone can do it - it’s just gibberish. No one else can understand the person speaking in a “tongue” so it’s not a real language.
Speaking in tongues is a supernatural manifestation of the holy Spirit, i.e., a Spirit-inspired utterance whereby the believer speaks in a language he has never learned (Acts 2:4). It may be in existing spoken human languages (Acts 2:6) or in languages unknown on earth (cf. I Cor. 13:1). It is not “ecstatic speech,” as rendered in some translations, for the Bible never uses the yerm “ecstatic utterance” to refer to speaking in tongues.
It must be recognized that the mere occurrence of speaking with “other tongues,” or any other supernatural manifestation, is not absolute or uncontestable evidence of the work amd presence of the holy Spirit. Speaking in tongues can be counterfeited by human initiative or demonic activity. The Bible cautions us not to believe every spirit, but examine whether the spiritual experiences we have really do come from God (I John 4:1).
Speaking in tongues, in order to be valid, must be “as the Spirit [gives] utterance” (Acts 2:4). To follow the norm in the book of Acts, speaking in tongues must be the spontaneous result of the initial filling of the Holy Spirit. It is not a learned phenomenon, nor can it be taught by instructing believers to speak incoherent syllables.
The Holy Spirit explicity warns that in the last days of this age there will be, within the church, hypocrisy (I Tim. 4:1-2), signs and wonders from satanic powers (Matt. 7:22-23), and deceitful workers disguising themselves as servants of God (II Cor. 11:13-15). We must heed these warnings from the Holy Spirit as they relate to counterfeit spiritual manifestations and signs (Matt. 7:22-23).
In order to discern whether our speaking in tongues is genuine, that is, tryly of the Holy Spirit, we must look for the Biblically defined results of the baptism in the Holy Spirit. If someone claiming to speak in tongues is not committed to Jesus Christ and the authority of the Scriptures, and is not attempting to obey the Word of God, whatever manifestations he or she have are not of the Holy Spirit (I John 3:6-10; 4:1-3).
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Do you have any idea what church this was?[/quote]
I watched most of the movie a couple years ago (until i couldn’t stand it anymore). The thing that impressed me was not how unusual this kind of fanaticism is, but how prevalent it is. I am a recovering Mormon. Although this movie was not about Mormonism, it could have been. My catholic buddy said it reminded him of the BS they force fed him at catechism. Turn on any christian talk radio station and you can hear the same stuff.
The other movie you need to watch is “Religulous”. That one explains how the christian right is so excited about the Apocalypse, they are doing whatever they can to make it happen. Between the Jesus Camp type Christians, the Muslims, and the Jews, I am sure they can get a full on WW III started in our lifetime.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]PDJD wrote:
…The other movie you need to watch is “Religulous”. That one explains how the christian right is so excited about the Apocalypse, they are doing whatever they can to make it happen. Between the Jesus Camp type Christians, the Muslims, and the Jews, I am sure they can get a full on WW III started in our lifetime.[/quote]
Like I said in an earlier post I have my problems with these Jesus Camp type folks but your above post is stupid above all measure. The Jesus Camp type Christians and the Jews for that matter are doing nothing of the sort that you mention. Sheer stupidity on your part; you’re a sucker.
I sure get tired of the intellectual vapidity I see on this forum.[/quote]
Without bothering doing any research, how would those parties even “make it happen”? I have huge doubts that one would be able to provoke a god, to make it happen, before it’s designated time. (I’m saying this as a nonbeliever)
What a retarded fat bitch telling kids that Harry Potter is evil.It’s fucking fiction.
Religion is retarded,and Christianity is just about the most retarded of the religions I’ve come across.And this is a Catholic talking here.
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I saw this movie in its entirety. Guess what two word adjective I would use to describe this people? Hint, it involves a flying mammal.
Speaking in tongues is a joke. Anyone can do it - it’s just gibberish. No one else can understand the person speaking in a “tongue” so it’s not a real language.[/quote]
This is my take too.
Honestly I’m done with religion. Seriously why care about any of this shit.