Wow JR you fucking look awesome. Good work buddy!! I can see a big size difference from your old pics. Looks like tren-ace/test agree’s with your body. Keep it up!
I am definitely stealing your cycle, for a future cycle that is. Very very good results.
Thanks for all the compliments guys. Next time I’ll try to take some better pictures.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
World1187 wrote:
So you seem to sleep better on training days then, definitely understandable. Although my question is that when you do sleep well, do you have very vivid dreams? I sure did and am wondering if I happen to be a freak or is that relatively common?
World
You know what, World, I had forgotten that you had mentioned this before until I read it again here. I am definitely having very vivid dreams now well into week two of using tren. The dreams occur more often than usual, last much longer than usual, and are far more memorable. Not necessarily weirder (dreams are typically weird, anyway), but they seem to be “crisper” and brighter and more emotional. Good point to bring up. How about you, JR?[/quote]
Very interesting and funny that you both brought this up. I experienced the same “side effect” as well. I thought that maybe it was because I was so tired from training on those days that I’d have that dead sleep. And like Cortes said, the dreams were much more emotional for me too. Is this another possible side effect to add to the list, “tren-dreams”?
Week 7,
I feel the same as weeks 5 and 6, like I’m peaking. My strength is still going up, but not as dramatically fast. I squat 405 for 6 reps this week, and I FINALLY break the 300lb. barrier for my bench press! 305 for 2 reps! I know it probably doesn’t sound too impressive for alot of guys on here, but I’ve always had a crappy BP, so this was somewhat of a milestone for me.
World, with regards to the vascularity, I seemed to be alot more “veiny” first thing in the morning and after training, but once I started chugging all that water it wasn’t as noticeable. I suspect that if someone were to cut weight on tren they would be quite vascular.
[quote]Jelly Roll wrote:
Cortes wrote:
World1187 wrote:
So you seem to sleep better on training days then, definitely understandable. Although my question is that when you do sleep well, do you have very vivid dreams? I sure did and am wondering if I happen to be a freak or is that relatively common?
World
You know what, World, I had forgotten that you had mentioned this before until I read it again here. I am definitely having very vivid dreams now well into week two of using tren. The dreams occur more often than usual, last much longer than usual, and are far more memorable. Not necessarily weirder (dreams are typically weird, anyway), but they seem to be “crisper” and brighter and more emotional. Good point to bring up. How about you, JR?
Very interesting and funny that you both brought this up. I experienced the same “side effect” as well. I thought that maybe it was because I was so tired from training on those days that I’d have that dead sleep. And like Cortes said, the dreams were much more emotional for me too. Is this another possible side effect to add to the list, “tren-dreams”?
[/quote]
Care to perhaps give a few examples for the hell of it?
For instance, I had a flashback of Fallujah one time.
Another time which was just pure insanity, I dreamed I was in a WWII era bomber and we were coming back from a raid over Germany. But then we crashed in my grandma’s hometown, located right smack in the midwest. Anyway, we ended up hiking around and shit. It was wild.
World
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Care to perhaps give a few examples for the hell of it?
For instance, I had a flashback of Fallujah one time.
Another time which was just pure insanity, I dreamed I was in a WWII era bomber and we were coming back from a raid over Germany. But then we crashed in my grandma’s hometown, located right smack in the midwest. Anyway, we ended up hiking around and shit. It was wild.
World[/quote]
Well, for me the most memorable example would be the one involving my father. I’m in my childhood home, but everyone is at their current 2008 age. There’s a big house party going on with most of my family/friends, I’m sober as usual (I don’t drink/drug), but everyone else is getting drunk/high (as usual). My father and I get into an argument in the kitchen, not too unusual.
Anyway, it escalates into him calling me outside to fight. I’m SO good-to-go, let’s do it! Everyone is freaking out now, my mom, my aunties, cousins, they’re all trying to talk us out of it, but there’s no stopping this. I’ve been waiting for this opportunity for a long time. I’m excited and scared, and everything feels VERY, VERY REAL. I can feel the adrenaline starting to dump so I calm my breathing down. I look into a mirror on the wall, and a little voice tells me, “This is it, what you’ve been training for all these years…”, then I step outside into the street where my father is… and I WAKE UP!
It felt really, really real.
I don’t think you need a degree in psychology to figure out the history behind that one, lol…
Jelly
Have you always had vivid dreams or dreams that made sense mostly. Mine just jump around mostly from topic to topic and really don’t make sense most of the time. I would actually like to have more vivid dreams, but they usualy are only for a short period of time and then it jumps around more.
[quote]Thewannabe wrote:
Have you always had vivid dreams or dreams that made sense mostly. Mine just jump around mostly from topic to topic and really don’t make sense most of the time. I would actually like to have more vivid dreams, but they usualy are only for a short period of time and then it jumps around more.[/quote]
Normally, I don’t even remember my dreams, very rarely, and when I do they’re fuzzy. But I was remembering more dreams very distinctly the 8 weeks I was on tren, than probably the 8 years prior.
JR
Week 8,
My bodyweight was 242lbs. and I was still getting leaner. I was forcing down food at this point, same as before with the appetite decline after lunch, so it’s probably safe to say I wasn’t getting as much into me as I needed. One day, I ate lunch and decided to see how long it would take for me to get hungry. 9:30pm, over 9 hours later, not good.
I could feel my body was getting worn down from the everyday high-intensity/effort workouts. I was still strong as fuck, but my mental sharpness was going down. I’d come home from training and be so tired that I’d just lay down for “just a few minutes”. I think that I’d over-worked my CNS but the test/tren were carrying me through the training. I should’ve started backing off this week (or trained more intelligently in the first place) but I wanted to finish my tren run with some more PR’s.
I hit 475 for my squat (no video that day, shitty) so I was on top of the world. Same workout I got 305 x 3 reps for my bench press, but no 315. Still no 3 plates! My 545 deadlift later that week went up pretty smooth (better form too I think), and I felt physically strong enough to go heavier, but I’d started feeling onset of the flu from the day before, so I left it at that. Finally some common-sense.
Some other lifts I was doing. 150lb one-arm DB rows for reps of 10. 315lb front squats for 2 reps. Chinups and dips with 135lbs. for 3-4 reps.
Let’s try this again.
Go JR go!!
Man if I ever needed a personal body guard I would hire you!!!
Good job!!!
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
Go JR go!!
Man if I ever needed a personal body guard I would hire you!!!
Good job!!! [/quote]
Thanks DB.
I’d be a terrible bodyguard though, I try my best to avoid confrontation.
Jelly
[quote]Jelly Roll wrote:
I’d be a terrible bodyguard though, I try my best to avoid confrontation.
Jelly [/quote]
And we see why. You’d mean to land a warning blow, and inadvertently knock them into the past. Nice work, JR. That stuff motivates the crap out of me.
Yeah, JR, your threads are the best.
I actually had just watched that monster deadlift on your profile yesterday. The 20 rep squats with 315 is insane, too. I’m with 5.0 here, I think the reason I like your threads so much is because they are like a call to action: I feel like Barbapapa on quaaludes after reading what you do to yourself, man!
[quote]5.0 wrote:
Jelly Roll wrote:
I’d be a terrible bodyguard though, I try my best to avoid confrontation.
Jelly
And we see why. You’d mean to land a warning blow, and inadvertently knock them into the past. Nice work, JR. That stuff motivates the crap out of me.[/quote]
Lol, when I was a kid I was taught that you should throw every punch with “bad intentions”, I don’t think I have any bad intentions anymore. I’m glad you liked the video.
Jelly
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Yeah, JR, your threads are the best.
I actually had just watched that monster deadlift on your profile yesterday. The 20 rep squats with 315 is insane, too. I’m with 5.0 here, I think the reason I like your threads so much is because they are like a call to action: I feel like Barbapapa on quaaludes after reading what you do to yourself, man![/quote]
All you guys keep ME going with the positive words, advice, and encouragement! Really, I wouldn’t have the same results without you guys, so thank you.
I’ll try to get some video this summer of our fieldwork conditioning. Keg throws, tire flipping, sledgehammer, truck pushing, barfing…
Hey, if any of you guys are ever in my neck of the woods on vacation/business, you’re always welcome to come and train with with me. Just PM me and we’ll work out the details.
Jelly
Good stuff as always JR. I will be very interested to hear how your apparent adrenal fatigue/CNS issues play out your final weeks. A lot of times its like a self fulfilling prophecy. You expect Tren to make you stronger so you push harder and do more. It actually makes you stronger than you do do more. And the process repeats and continues.
I can think of the numerous times I’d leave the gym and feel super fired up and all and I’d drive home and once I got there I could shower and by the time I was out of the shower if I laid down in bed I would almost pass out. Its very true that the more you ask of your body the more you must let it rest and recover even when geared up.
I’m also curious about how the Tren effects your strength levels from week 6-8. I’m at the stage myself where I am deciding between Ace and Enanthate and I am leaning towards enanthate for price mostly. I think you suggested that you maybe not plateaued out from week 5 to 6 but that the leaps in strength were getting smaller. Never been on Tren longer than 5 weeks myself. If I choose Enanthate I’m probably looking at running it for 8 weeks.
Again, very much appreciate all the personal insight you are Cortes and giving the masses with your logs.
Wow I am still watching that dead lift. Nice work!!
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Good stuff as always JR. I will be very interested to hear how your apparent adrenal fatigue/CNS issues play out your final weeks. A lot of times its like a self fulfilling prophecy. You expect Tren to make you stronger so you push harder and do more. It actually makes you stronger than you do do more. And the process repeats and continues.
I can think of the numerous times I’d leave the gym and feel super fired up and all and I’d drive home and once I got there I could shower and by the time I was out of the shower if I laid down in bed I would almost pass out. Its very true that the more you ask of your body the more you must let it rest and recover even when geared up.
I’m also curious about how the Tren effects your strength levels from week 6-8. I’m at the stage myself where I am deciding between Ace and Enanthate and I am leaning towards enanthate for price mostly. I think you suggested that you maybe not plateaued out from week 5 to 6 but that the leaps in strength were getting smaller. Never been on Tren longer than 5 weeks myself. If I choose Enanthate I’m probably looking at running it for 8 weeks.
Again, very much appreciate all the personal insight you are Cortes and giving the masses with your logs.[/quote]
You’re right on the money Sapasion. I made the mistake of thinking that I couldn’t over-train on AAS, so I just went bonkers with the max. effort work. And since the weight was going up and I was getting stronger, I figured I was still recovering good enough. Next time I’ll know better to stick to my training plan and pay more attention to my body’s warning signs (I say that every time, lol, but this time I mean it!). Those active-rest days and light days in there for a reason!
Week 9,
So… I got sick. It was a bad flu that I held off until I my deadlift PR, then it was all over me. Actually, the morning I pulled 545, I barely dragged my carcass into the gym. I didn’t do anything all week except lay in bed, drink tea and soup, and have hot epsom salt baths. It only lasted about 5 days, and I started feeling better by the weekend, so I decided to wait until Monday to start training again.