Your lifting numbers aren’t awful, but I’ve got to say you don’t really look like you lift at all.
I suppose this is irrelevant because you’ve got your mind made up - but someone had to mention this…
Changes to cycle:
400mg test-e E3D
Alternate 100mg anadrol and 50mg anadrol every other day. This way it averages out to 75mg.
Due to the dose of my test vials, I think now that it would be best to stick to 400mg (1mL) of test every 3rd day. This will cut it down a little, but you have to remember that for only 4 weeks will my cycle be a little over 1.5g. After that, it goes down to a little over a gram.
So while I it may be high for the 4 weeks, it will be cut back to a more modest dose for the majority of the cycle. The Walgreen’s by my apartment has a blood pressure machine. I plan to test it weekly. In addition, since my anadrol is in powder form in caps, it is going to be a pain in the ass to chop them in half without making a mess, so I will take 100mg one day and 50mg the next day. This way, it will average out to 75mg daily.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
You said yourself first cycles can be the best if done right.
So why avoid everyone elses opinions when in fact this is just not right?
Easy on the doses there superstar. Most guys with a lot more experience under their belt regarding lifting and cycling dont feelt he need to use real close to 2 grams per week.
I personally dont even mind the idea of all the compounds you plan to use. However the dosages you have outlined are just not necessary. Keep a real close eye on your BP, especially in wks 3-4.
Good luck or something…[/quote]
lol, is this some kind of joke that the “ladies don’t like me”? My main goal is build a solid foundation. Once I do this I can go pretty much anywhere. You have to slap on some clay before you carve, you know.
[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Your bodyfat looks way to high bro it’s only going to get higher with the 900 mgs of test you plan on taking. The ladies do not like you now and will not like you after your cycle. Your gonna end up looking like a frat boy who might have played football in highschool, yet eats to much pizza and drinks to much beer… Why dont you hide your gear for six months and during those six months change your body comp. by getting your nutrition and lifestyle healthy and on point. Than get on a cycle fit for a first cycle maybe something like:
Weeks 1-10 Test E 250-300 mg 2x a week
Weeks 1-10 Proviron 25 mg 2x a day
Weeks 12-15 Nolvadex 20 mg a day [/quote]
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Your lifting numbers aren’t awful, but I’ve got to say you don’t really look like you lift at all.
I suppose this is irrelevant because you’ve got your mind made up - but someone had to mention this…[/quote]
I don’t consider my lifting number to be that great, at all. While I might be stronger than some people, I know I haven’t hit anywhere near my potential.
You are right on the money when you say it doesn’t look like I workout. This is the main reason for my cycle.
Glad to see you took it so well. Don’t get me wrong, a 455 x 6 dl means you must be doing something right, however your appearance suggests that you haven’t got your diet nailed. AAS will only speed up what you are already doing so if your diet sucks then you’ll be only be shortchanging yourself.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Glad to see you took it so well. Don’t get me wrong, a 455 x 6 dl means you must be doing something right, however your appearance suggests that you haven’t got your diet nailed. AAS will only speed up what you are already doing so if your diet sucks then you’ll be only be shortchanging yourself.
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Well, I tend to lose bodyfat very fast if I cut back on my calorie intake. I know my body fat right now is probably in the 20% zone, but that is a complete guess. I went from being 230lbs to 180lbs in about a month and a half just by cutting back on calories. Problem is, it’s not the weight loss I have problems with it is the weight gain and keeping my body fat reasonable.
I know it’s very difficult to lose bodyfat and gain lean body mass naturally. While this can be done, someone would be much better off choosing one of those goals and going for it. If your goal is both, you’ll tend to get mediocre results. So knowing this, I am choosing weight gain. Sure short term results may not be that great, but right now, I don’t even really have a foundation!
I also have a very fast metabolism too. When I was up to 230lbs, I was eating around 15,000 calories a day just to maintain. I know how to eat healthy. It is just dependant upon my calorie/carb intake that determines my body composition.
15,000 calories a day?!?!?! No wonder you look like a beached whale.
You apparently have little to no idea of what you’re doing with your dosages, compounds, or scheduling. Wait and learn now, inject later. Sorry to say, but it’s guys like you who rush into things, use every compound in huge amounts, and get bad side effects that give steroids a bad name.
You admit yourself that you don’t have a foundation. Steroids are not for people “without a foundation.” You need to seriously consider what you’re going to be doing, or be prepared to be horribly disappointed.
Who’s to say you have knowledge about dosages, compounds, and scheduling? I look like a beach whale? I think it’s apparent you’re delusional. Please quite telling me to change my mind about my cycle use. You are not convincing me of anything to be honest.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
15,000 calories a day?!?!?! No wonder you look like a beached whale.
You apparently have little to no idea of what you’re doing with your dosages, compounds, or scheduling. Wait and learn now, inject later. Sorry to say, but it’s guys like you who rush into things, use every compound in huge amounts, and get bad side effects that give steroids a bad name.
You admit yourself that you don’t have a foundation. Steroids are not for people “without a foundation.” You need to seriously consider what you’re going to be doing, or be prepared to be horribly disappointed.[/quote]
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Steroids are not for people “without a foundation”[/quote]
Absolutely, that’s what training is for.
For the record, this is a very very odd cycle. It will obviously yield some sort of results, no one is denying that. Some of the things you are saying are also very strange.
Here’s an idea;
1.Tweak your diet, or even better, pick a ready-made diet. The Anabolic Diet would suit you perfectly if you have a tendancy to put on fat.
2.Find a program that delivers consistent results. Don’t mess around changing programs every couple of weeks (I’m not saying you do this, but just in case). Look for steady gains in size and strength.
3.Once you are seeing results gradually week to week - then and only then should you consider adding AAS into the mix. You seem to have your heart set on this very odd cycle, so yeah whatever, do that one. It’ll be a learning experience if nothing else…
To be completely honest, it seems that you need to get a basic grasp of training and diet before you even contemplate AAS. Like I said before, your lifting numbers aren’t terrible but considering some of the other figures you’ve thrown out I think they might be representing nothing more than “internet” strength.
I hope you can take some of the advice here on board without getting too disheartened. We were all newbies once after all.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m just pointing out the idiocy of what you plan on doing. Want me to be specific:
- a first cycle with 3 compounds
- running 900mg/wk of test on a first cycle
- drol dosing… do it right or don’t do it at all
- the point at which you use your drol
- masteron timing… designed for end of cycle
- your insane Adex dosing
- you admit you have no foundation
YOU SIMPLY ARE NOT READY
Here are some things to consider:
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I am 5’8" at 195lbs. Obviously, I have a foundation. I just have body fat which covers it. It is not what I consider a foundation I want to have. A foundation I would like to have would be to have a lean body mass of 225lbs (as an example).
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What is wrong with my diet other than the fact my body fat may be a little high? The only reason I gain bodyfat is because I am consuming more calories than I am burning. I would much rather be in the state of consuming a little over what is necessary than a under (less optimum muscle gain). Just because my bodyfat may not be in the “teens” does not signify I don’t know what I am doing. I have been working with a very accomplished nutritionist, and he put me on the program I am on now. I am sure this guy knows what he is doing as he has a ton of experience.
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In all honesty, what is so strange about my cycle other than the fact my dosages are higher than what most people use on this board?
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I will admit, my training could be improved on. Sure I push myself as hard as possible and then some in the gym, but I often feel beat up most of the time. I think a basic "westside template is the way to go. Once I get my stregth up on main lifts, I feel the cards will fall in place.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Absolutely, that’s what training is for.
For the record, this is a very very odd cycle. It will obviously yield some sort of results, no one is denying that. Some of the things you are saying are also very strange.
Here’s an idea;
1.Tweak your diet, or even better, pick a ready-made diet. The Anabolic Diet would suit you perfectly if you have a tendancy to put on fat.
2.Find a program that delivers consistent results. Don’t mess around changing programs every couple of weeks (I’m not saying you do this, but just in case). Look for steady gains in size and strength.
3.Once you are seeing results gradually week to week - then and only then should you consider adding AAS into the mix. You seem to have your heart set on this very odd cycle, so yeah whatever, do that one. It’ll be a learning experience if nothing else…
To be completely honest, it seems that you need to get a basic grasp of training and diet before you even contemplate AAS. Like I said before, your lifting numbers aren’t terrible but considering some of the other figures you’ve thrown out I think they might be representing nothing more than “internet” strength.
I hope you can take some of the advice here on board without getting too disheartened. We were all newbies once after all. [/quote]
I hate to be a dick, but the other poster is right, you don’t look like you lift at all, you have terrible scapular winging, bad posture and somehow I just can’t believe those lifts. I mean, your traps and forearms look like my little sisters. You could probably work on some other stuff before using. It’s your body though.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m just pointing out the idiocy of what you plan on doing. Want me to be specific:
- a first cycle with 3 compounds
- running 900mg/wk of test on a first cycle
- drol dosing… do it right or don’t do it at all
- the point at which you use your drol
- masteron timing… designed for end of cycle
- your insane Adex dosing
- you admit you have no foundation
YOU SIMPLY ARE NOT READY[/quote]
The masteron or proviron will make a testosterone cycle more effective and also take away from some side effects, so I see no reason to take it out. Who says masteron has to be used at the end of the cycle? What’s wrong with the adrol timing? If I cycle it in when the testosterone becomes effective in my body, the adrol will be more effective than a “jumpstart” approach.
What is wrong with the adex dsing? I have seen in previous threads on this board where people use this amount and are fine. The dosages for the test and adrol may be somewhat high, especially for a first cycle… I am not denying that, but as I have said time and time again, I will take the risk. People use these amounts, not necessarily for a first cycle, but they use them with no side effects. I am not saying I won’t get side effects. All I am saying is that is not abnormal to run cycles of this amount.
[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
I hate to be a dick, but the other poster is right, you don’t look like you lift at all, you have terrible scapular winging, bad posture and somehow I just can’t believe those lifts. I mean, your traps and forearms look like my little sisters. You could probably work on some other stuff before using. It’s your body though.[/quote]
I won’t deny the fact I don’t look like I workout. I also don’t know how to flex either which is why it probably looks like I have bad posture. I was trying to pull my scapula forward in the back picture. I have no reason to lie on my lifts. They aren’t even impressive. I know it doesn’t look like I hit the gym, but that is more a bodyfat issue right now than anything.
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Here are some things to consider:
- I am 5’8" at 195lbs. Obviously, I have a foundation. I just have body fat which covers it. It is not what I consider a foundation I want to have. A foundation I would like to have would be to have a lean body mass of 225lbs (as an example).[/quote]
I think you’re misunderstanding the word “foundation”. TBH it’s a crappy term. 225lbs lean (say 8-10%) @ 5’8" is a pretty decent physique as it happens, and shouldn’t be described as a foundation.
If you truly were at some point regularly eating 15,000kcals per day, I would wager that it was almost entirely junk food. That level would not be possible eating “clean” imo, nor desirable in most cases.
You are right about this.
True, your physique photos and cycle design signify that you don’t know what you are doing.
I don’t know where to start with this one. I did very high dosages for my first cycle - BUT it was only 3 weeks long and brainstormed by probably the finest mind on this board. Your cycle is all over the place. If you don’t believe me - do it. You’ll soon see.
This sounds like a problem to be fixed before AAS not by AAS.
This is a very good idea. Start now and think about AAS when you look like you lift.
I still can’t believe Bushy hasn’t weighed in on this…
This thread is giving me a headache.
But like my dad always told me when I was a kid:
“You just can’t fix stupid.”
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Here are some things to consider:
- I am 5’8" at 195lbs. Obviously, I have a foundation. I just have body fat which covers it. It is not what I consider a foundation I want to have. A foundation I would like to have would be to have a lean body mass of 225lbs (as an example).[/quote]
Let’s say your estimate of body fat is right, at 20%. That means your LBM is 156 pounds. How do you consider that a solid foundation?
Yes, when I was eating 15k kcals per day, wasn’t eating all that healthy. I knew this, and still did it anyway. I was having difficulties gaining mass eating healthy, so I just said the hell with it, I want to get bigger faster. I still ate “somewhat” healthy, but it would be nearly impossible to get 15k kcals in a day without adding in some junk. But, the diet I have posted on this thread is all healthy.
I have been following a modified westside program for almost 2 years! I have received some great gains on it, but I still don’t look like I workout. I know if I knew how to better execute this template that I could get better results on it.
[quote]5.0 wrote:
Let’s say your estimate of body fat is right, at 20%. That means your LBM is 156 pounds. How do you consider that a solid foundation? [/quote]
You’re right. It isn’t. But I am impatient. I have seen other people perform cycles that were in not much better condition than myself. Sure, this doesn’t make it alright for me to do it, but I am. I am sorry, I just can’t wait any longer.
Bushy actually thought my cycle was good. Sure he said, not alright for a first cycle, but he did say he liked the cycle. I actually got a lot of my ideas from him and prisoner.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
I still can’t believe Bushy hasn’t weighed in on this…
This thread is giving me a headache.
But like my dad always told me when I was a kid:
“You just can’t fix stupid.”[/quote]