Well remember that the time at which you start your cycle is dependent on how much progress you make. The main idea here is to make sure you can lower your bodyfat, have good muscular endurance, and ensure your ticker and blood pressure will be good to go come cycle time. You expressed your desire to start in 3 weeks, so the sooner you start getting ready for it is the sooner you can start it.
You can post whatever you want here, it’s your thread.
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Here is what my diet will look like (question at bottom)
P+C meals:
Option 1 (P+C):
1 cup raw steel cut oats
1 cup egg beaters
1 banana
Option 2 (P+C):
1 cup scrambled egg beaters
2-3 pieces Ezekiel bread
Option 3(P+C):
8oz buffalo, turkey breast, chicken breast, ground venison, or ground buffalo
1cup brown rice
5-6oz veggies (usually organic green beans or broccoli)
P+F meals:
Option 1 (P+F):
8oz buffalo, turkey breast, chicken breast, ground venison, or ground buffalo
20g healthy oil
5-6oz veggies (usually organic green beans or broccoli)
Option 2 (P+F):
60g egg white protein powder
20g healthy oil
Option 3 (P+C):
Workout nutrition
Pre-workout shake:
60g waxy maize, 25g egg white protein powder, 10g instantized BCAA’s
During workout shake
40g waxy maize, 8g hydrolyzed whey, 10g instantized BCAA’s
Post workout shake:
75g waxy maize, 30g egg white, 10g instantized BCAA’s
Questions:
Looks pretty good, but I’d make a few changes. Stick with veggies the second half of the day, not fruits. Also, go ahead and drop the waxy maize. Sorry, but I hate that shit. Replace it with dextrose and only 50g post workout. So no more of that WM, dextrose after workout only.
Jelly works, just check the labels and make sure it’s not a ridiculous amount of sugar. There will be sugar obviously, but try to keep that low. I have a fat free jelly I use every so often, has sugar, but no fat. I forgot the name though.
For your post workout meal, stay away from oranges and stick with the dextrose for your carbs. It’s not a lot of carbs I will admit that, but is definitely going to give you the desired result if you can stick with it.
Well, I don’t have any dextrose on hand. I used to used this stuff before, and it really made me bloated. This is the main reason I switched to WM. Do you want me to substitute this with anything? Or … is it alright to use it for now?
Well then stick with the WM, but use it only after your workout and at 50 grams. Kind of a drastic difference, but will more effectively help you achieve the desired goal.
I’m very glad to see things taking some direction here, Jake.
World is giving you sound advice and you’re taking it. It took two hundred and some odd posts, but I think you’re on your way, buddy.
A word to the wise here, if you think about posting some silly 180 degree turn new cycle and diet tomorrow, you could very well end up staring at the business end of a crossbow! (haha)
Seriously Jake, I’m happy to see you on track and look forward to hearing about your progress.
Art
Nah, I wouldn’t have world go through all the trouble to help me just to ignore him. That would make no sense esp. when I told him I would listen to him. Anyways, my diet looked like this today (will update this as day progresses):
Meal 1:
1 cup raw steel cut oats
1 cup egg beaters
1 banana
Meal 2:
1 cup raw steel cut oats
1 cup egg beaters
1 banana
Meal 3 (at work split into two shakes):
60g egg white protein powder
20g gamma protein isolate
20g EV olive oil
15-20x1g fish oil caps
Meal 4 (at work too):
2 chicken breast
3/4 cup broccoli
Guacamole put on top of breast
olive oil drizzled on
Meal 5:
8oz buffalo top round
7oz veggies
20g macadamia nut oil
Meal 6:
8oz buffalo top round
7oz veggies
20g EV olive oil
Meal notes:
I was a little upset I had 2 cups of raw oats today because I know that 2 cups alone is close to 200g carbs. Ideally, I would like to have some kind of protein source and brown rice w/ veggies for a second meal.
On a side note, the guacamole on top of the chicken breast that I ate tasted delicious.
Training will start tomorrow. I Should have some before pictures coming too. I might start doing cardio sessions twice daily if that is alright with world. I know it definitely helps to be as active as possible when trying to shed some fat. I am excited to start the new program tomorrow. Still haven’t told my roommate though. I know he will be pissed., but I don’t really care because I know this is something that needs to be done.
wow what a f##$ed up thread entertaining though
i admire jakes dedication to this thread i wish i could spare the patience to suck up the knowledge more often! these guys here jake actually are concerned about you and from what i seen in those pics bro i would listen! no offense have you ever tried to get lean…naturally its frigging torture it takes real dedication and you should try to atleast have a physique that represents torture and dedication before arguing with guys that have popped that cherry or poked that cherry if you will good luck
i would pay close attention to tone bushy and world now has alot of invested in you show some respect
02/18/08 monday training
Morning cardio:
30min on elliptical
10min walk
Might do evening stair climber for 20 or so minutes
Day 1 (45 second rest between exercises, 5 minute rest between cycles)
Foam rolling and dynamic effort stretches
Squats (done with safety squat bar)
20
(30 second rest, increase weight)
12
wt used: 155/205, 155/175, 155/175 (3 cycles)
Stationary lunges (done with safety squat bar)
15 on each leg
wt used: 65, 65, 65
Single leg leg Extensions
12
wt used: 90, 105, 105
Seated Calf Raises (6 second negative)
20
wt used: 45, 105 (had to use standing calf for this one), 45
(rest 15 seconds, increase weight)
10
Elliptical
4.5 minutes @ 145-160 heart rate (done mostly at 155)
REPEAT CYCLE 3 TIMES
Workout notes:
This workout caused me to sweat my ass off, literally. I was soaked in sweat by the time I was done with this workout. I drank 1 gallon of water during this. While I feel this kind of training is excellent for conditioning, I would think it would not be all that great for building strength. Reason being: you can’t really workout heavy with this kind of template.
Also, I took it a little easier today because my legs, low back, and quads were still sore from saturday’s training.
02/18/08 monday diet (will update as day progresses)
Meal 1:
1 orange
1 banana
1 cup egg beaters
Meal 2 (PWO):
50g waxy maize
25g egg white protein powder
15g BCAA’s
Meal 3:
8oz raw turkey breast
7oz green beans
25g EV olive oil
Meal 4:
8oz raw turkey breast
7oz green beans
25g EV olive oil
Meals 5-6:
60g egg white protein powder
20g olive oil
Meal 7:
8oz raw buffalo top round
7oz green beans
10g EV olive oil
10g macadamia nut oil
10x1g fish oil caps
Diet notes:
I am going to start consuming BCAA’s before and during training. I think this should help a little with retaining more muscle.
02/18/08 BW (lbs): 182.0
I am going to have to hold off on the pics today. I have a lot of shit going on, so I am not going to have time.
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
02/18/08 monday diet (will update as day progresses)
Meal 1:
1 orange
1 banana
1 cup egg beaters
Meal 2 (PWO):
50g waxy maize
25g egg white protein powder
15g BCAA’s
Meal 3:
8oz raw turkey breast
7oz green beans
25g EV olive oil
Diet notes:
I am going to start consuming BCAA’s before and during training. I think this should help a little with retaining more muscle.[/quote]
That diet is not sounding too much better yet…Is this complete?
[quote]Cortes wrote:
That diet is not sounding too much better yet…Is this complete?
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Well, that was just part of my diet for the day. I just updated the rest. Also, my first two meals are P+C and all my subsequent meals are P+F. So, while it may not seem like my diet has changed a whole lot, it has in the sense that I am not doing F+C anymore.
Which makes a big difference for someone built like jake, no offense bud. If you look at his previous diet, it was all over the place. At least now he has worked on eating proper foods at the proper times…i.e. carbs in the morning, and fats thereafter, but never together…
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Cortes wrote:
That diet is not sounding too much better yet…Is this complete?
Well, that was just part of my diet for the day. I just updated the rest. Also, my first two meals are P+C and all my subsequent meals are P+F. So, while it may not seem like my diet has changed a whole lot, it has in the sense that I am not doing F+C anymore.[/quote]
Okay. Seen and noted. Now that you’ve updated it it makes a lot more sense and looks a lot better. Keep it up.
02/19/08 BW (lbs): 180.2
Yesterdays weight: 02/18/08 BW (lbs): 182.0
Seems to be moving in the right direction. hopefully, this isn’t too fast.
02/19/08
Training:none
Cardio:
Evening 30minutes
10 minute walk
I wanted to do cardio this morning, but I had to get up too early because I needed to get some stuff done for one of my classes. Anyways, I am going to go do cardio right now;
02/19/08 diet (will update rest later)
Meal 1:
1 orange
1 banana
1 cup egg beaters
Meal 2:
8oz raw turkey breast
7oz green beens
20g olive oil
Meal 3:
8oz raw turkey breast
7oz green beans
20g olive oil
Meal 4:
8oz raw buffalo top round
7oz green beans
20g macadamia nut oil
Meal 5:
8oz cooked chicken breast
7oz green beans
20g macadamia nut oil
Diet notes:
I want to order some walnut oil. Hear it is a good source of polyunsaturated fat.
02/20/08 BW (lbs): 178.0
Yesterday weight:02/19/08 BW (lbs): 180.2
2 days ago weight: 02/18/08 BW (lbs): 182.0
It has been over 2 years since I weighed in the 170s. As I said before, I take off weight fast. I just hope this is not too fast.
02/20/08 wednesday training
Cardio: 20 minutes
Foam roll
DE stretches
Day 3 (45 second rest between exercises, 4 minute rest between cycles)
10 minute warm-up on bike
Dumbbell bench press
15
wt used: 70,70,70,65,65
Lat pull down
12
wt used: 150,150,135,15,135
Flat DB flies
15
wt used: 40,40,35,35,35
Deadlift
10
wt used: 275, 275, 315, 275, 275
Hanging leg raises
15
BW, BW, BW, BW, BW
5 minutes on bike
REPEAT CYCLE 5 TIMES
Training notes:
Again, I sweated my ass off which was great. I just need to remember to bring a second set of clothes with me to the gym from now on.
I need to quit being so fucking lazy and get up in the morning to train. I really hate training in the evening.
02/20/08 diet (will update rest later)
Meal 1:
1 orange
1 banana
1 cup egg beaters
Meal 2:
8oz cooked skinless chicken breast
7oz green beans
20g olive oil
Meal 3:
8oz cooked skinless chicken breast
7oz green beans
20g olive oil
Meal 4:
8oz cooked skinless chicken breast
7oz green beans
20g olive oil
Meal 5 (training):
Sipped on during training:
20g waxy maize starch
10g egg white protein powder
20g BCAA’s
Post workout shake:
50g waxy maize starch
20g egg white protein powder
10g BCAA’s
Meal 6:
8oz raw buffalo top round
7oz broccoli
20g olive oil
You should really increase your morning protein intake. Should be something like 50-70 grams after having no protein during your sleep…
Also, certain features of physique are explained by some of your lift numbers… especially the lat pulldowns…