[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
No, despite my training, I should notice at least something from my gear… Especially with the amount I have experimented with. I am going to give this another week. If I don’t notice anything, I am going off.[/quote]
Yeah, you should go off. It should then show how much it actually IS/WAS helping you with your ludicrous diet/training etc.
Good idea.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Yeah, you should go off. It should then show how much it actually IS/WAS helping you with your ludicrous diet/training etc.
Good idea.[/quote]
No offense, but who are you to give training advice? I know strength doesn’t necessarily coincide with knowledge, but you have been training your whole life. And despite your level of strength, you somehow think your method is effective. Now I know you’re going say you don’t train for strength, but still, after training for so long you should at least have some strength (not to say I have much more, but still you have been training about 10x longer than me). Now look, I am not one to be an asshole, but maybe it is you who should be reviewing your methods before you so open handedly criticize others.
Just a thought. Please don’t take it personally.
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Yeah, you should go off. It should then show how much it actually IS/WAS helping you with your ludicrous diet/training etc.
Good idea.
No offense, but who are you to give training advice? I know strength doesn’t necessarily coincide with knowledge, but you have been training your whole life. And despite your level of strength, you somehow think your method is effective. Now I know you’re going say you don’t train for strength, but still, after training for so long you should at least have some strength (not to say I have much more, but still you have been training about 10x longer than me). Now look, I am not one to be an asshole, but maybe it is you who should be reviewing your methods before you so open handedly criticize others.
Just a thought. Please don’t take it personally.[/quote]
I know you might be stronger than me in some lifts, but I know there are others I can wipe the floor with your ass too, so no offense taken bubba. And I have had setbacks through injury and other situations where I had to discontinue training at difft times, not to mention I have never trained strictly for strength, but rather bodybuilding style, hence the lack of superhuman strength like what dwells in your mind.
Let’s see your movie already huh?
I can bet if we trained side by side, my lifting form will smoke yours as well. You’re full of shit in half the crap you talk about, where I log my numbers very accurately and honestly. And your training in your own words hasn’t done diddly for you, yet you try to tell me it is working now?
Keep on blowin smoke up everyones ass including your own, Wonderbread.
In the Zone your wasting your time and energy abusing someone on the internet, short of releasing some steam.
Jake im going to make 1 more attempt. Today SHOULD have been my 1st week aniversary into my cycle INSTEAD last week i found a lump which today was confirmed as cancer.
So ya yay for me, so obviously i cannot touch roids probably for a long ass time, while hoping in the next 2 weeks its not malignant (right spelling?)
So as your thinking of COMING OFF as your not “feeling” the supposed benefits, its severely peeving me off.
You obviously have LOST weight while eating 700g of carbs a day… what you think fresh air took it off ???
2nd your programs suck donkey balls, surely you MUST know they do, time to man up and accept you do indeed NOT know what your doing, dont blame it on the gear its your choice of excercises that are at fault.
3rd, who exactly is your trainer ?? I messaged Justin saying one of his trainers was putting an overweight person on 700g of carbs and he practically sent me a mail back full of CAPS LOCK SENTENCES demanding the persons name.
Clearly they are a hoax.
4th Ill leave it with you, you still have time to redeem yourself FOR YOURSELF.
!!!
For your health, Jake.
04/21/08 training
Warmup:
90 degree shoulder
10x1x12
Incline shoulder rotation (facing incline)
5x1x10
Cable triceps pushdowns:
20x12
40x12
Actual training:
Flat bench
45x10
95x12
135x2x8
185x2x5
225x2x5
275x1
300x0 (stalled 1/2 way)
225x9
Notes:
Still not feeling it today. Joints, hips, and glutes are very sore. One common thing I notice is that from the time I inject to about 4-5 days later, my whole body feels like crap. It hasn’t been a one time case either. Every time I inject, I notice this.
Last week Thursday, I injected more as an experiment because I was pissed I hadn’t noticed anything. I was feeling fine up to the next day after i injected. Since then, I have dropped 6 lbs, I am always tired, my body is sore, and I haven’t even made it into the gym because I don’t feel good. I think it is more than just a coincidence.
I promise I will get some videos in once I start feeling better. I swear to god I am not lying about my lifts. I will show you prove. I see it being at least another 2-3 days till I feel normal again. Then, I should be able to resume normal training again.
As for my weight lifting program, I was originally following a program in my gym that a powerlifter created for me. I followed this program for about 5 months, and I had nothing but incredible progress.
My lifts went from
Deadlift 315 to 455 for reps.
squat 250 to 415 for a couple reps
bench 205 to 295
Needless to say, after I followed this program for about 5 months, i got very busy with school and other things and wasn’t making it into the gym. I also was more interested in trying a bodybuilding split because that was my ultimate goal… to pack on size. I followed a bodybuilding split for about 1/2 a year, and made little progress on it. I decided to go back to my original powerlifting split a couple months back because I know it works, and I have seen it do wonders for people who have actually stuck to in in my gym.
In the couple months that I have been following it, I haven’t been following it consistently. With this cycle I am presently on, I have just been playing it by how my body feels. I know once I start feeling better, I will be able to get in the gym more frequently. This is when the results will come. I know this with no doubt in my mind.
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
In the Zone your wasting your time and energy abusing someone on the internet, short of releasing some steam.
Jake im going to make 1 more attempt. Today SHOULD have been my 1st week aniversary into my cycle INSTEAD last week i found a lump which today was confirmed as cancer.
So ya yay for me, so obviously i cannot touch roids probably for a long ass time, while hoping in the next 2 weeks its not malignant (right spelling?)
So as your thinking of COMING OFF as your not “feeling” the supposed benefits, its severely peeving me off.
You obviously have LOST weight while eating 700g of carbs a day… what you think fresh air took it off ???
2nd your programs suck donkey balls, surely you MUST know they do, time to man up and accept you do indeed NOT know what your doing, dont blame it on the gear its your choice of excercises that are at fault.
3rd, who exactly is your trainer ?? I messaged Justin saying one of his trainers was putting an overweight person on 700g of carbs and he practically sent me a mail back full of CAPS LOCK SENTENCES demanding the persons name.
Clearly they are a hoax.
4th Ill leave it with you, you still have time to redeem yourself FOR YOURSELF.[/quote]
Corky,
I agree with everything you said, but I’m not “abusing” Jake anymore than he’s abusing the entire forum with his inane posts and complete shunning of advice from over a zillion good hearted guys who have tried and tried to help the lad…
I am sorry to hear about your cancer. I hope it’s benign for your sake bud. Keep your chin up and keep on trucking through this…
best,
ToneBone
Corky,
I’ll keep you in my prayers bud. Keep your chin up and live life with aggression-- good aggression-- meaning ZEAL!!!
Now to jake, so where have the training logs been? I really needed to a good laugh the past few days and have seen nothing. Damn you.
And by the way, I received an email back from Justin today. To keep things brief, he demanded in no uncertain terms that he get the name of this alleged trainer you paid all sorts of money to. So I’d like his name. And personally, I think you should put it out here in the open so all the new guys around here know to stay away from him.
World
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
And jake.
Sending snidey remarks saying that your source (who is a vet here) scammed you and ripped you off, without even approaching him forst, is just another example of you lack of integrity, and your willingness to throw people under a bus, despite them trying to help you.
The PM you sent to me, accusing X of ripping you off was NOT cool.
You approach him first. That is common ettiquette.
It’s far more likely to be your shocking ‘diet’ and poor training that are ‘ripping you off’ NOT the gear.
Bushy[/quote]
I have spoken to jake abt this and he was/is so confident the gear was fake he took 1800mg in one shot and experiennced neither effects nor even side effects at that crazy dose so maybe the gear was fake
I dunno,
but without gear,
800g of carbs a day and the bullshit training he’s been doing would have packed some serious blubber on him. So if he has fake gear, he also has the worlds greatest metabolism, which seems unlikely from his physique.
[quote]ironmiketyson wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
And jake.
Sending snidey remarks saying that your source (who is a vet here) scammed you and ripped you off, without even approaching him forst, is just another example of you lack of integrity, and your willingness to throw people under a bus, despite them trying to help you.
The PM you sent to me, accusing X of ripping you off was NOT cool.
You approach him first. That is common ettiquette.
It’s far more likely to be your shocking ‘diet’ and poor training that are ‘ripping you off’ NOT the gear.
Bushy
I have spoken to jake abt this and he was/is so confident the gear was fake he took 1800mg in one shot and experiennced neither effects nor even side effects at that crazy dose so maybe the gear was fake
[/quote]
Don’t be stupid enough to buy into anything this twit says about a certain someone. Oh, but then you’re the guy who likes to shoot upwards of 2.5-3 cc’s in your delt, and then figure on “self draining” it when it blows up and gets infected right?
Stop feeding the fire that was lit under someone’s ass who again, went out of their way to help an ignorant moron.
Think it’s about time for this thread to be voluntarily shut down.
There are a lot of ugly insinuations that have gone on for too long and too much talk that endangers this entire community.
Which is about how I think all of us probably should have expected this would end.
THE END.
World
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
ironmiketyson wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
And jake.
Don’t be stupid enough to buy into anything this twit says about a certain someone. Oh, but then you’re the guy who likes to shoot upwards of 2.5-3 cc’s in your delt, and then figure on “self draining” it when it blows up and gets infected right?
Stop feeding the fire that was lit under someone’s ass who again, went out of their way to help an ignorant moron.
[/quote]
Go and fuck yourself,if i wanna post something il post it,with or without ur approval,fuckhead.my post wasnt directed at you or anyone else,i just said if hes taking huge amounts of the gear without effects or side effects maybe it is fake
Maybe his training is lazy and thats the problem but either way its got fuckall to do with u
[quote]ironmiketyson wrote:
Go and fuck yourself,if i wanna post something il post it,with or without ur approval,fuckhead.my post wasnt directed at you or anyone else,i just said if hes taking huge amounts of the gear without effects or side effects maybe it is fake
Maybe his training is lazy and thats the problem but either way its got fuckall to do with u
[/quote]
Iron it has EVERYTHING to do with them. Go back to page 1 and you will find LOADS of good advice, good help, good nutrition, good programs…lot of GOOD there…
Now if they INVESTED that much GOOD into this thread then yes it has got “fuckall” to do with them. They care about whether he lives or dies why people KEEP making MORE posts, trying to make him see sense.
Now besides that, im going to go out on a limb and say YOUR Jake on a 2nd character…
Why ?
You have the same attitude, happen to be on cycle… made a silly mistake injecting THAT much oil into a delt that Jake would make…
And also just so happens your his only “mate” that ISN’T saying he is insane…
And your account was made in this month… you wouldn’t be the 1st to make an alt to “support” you other account.
As I said before, despite my training and diet, I still should have noticed AT LEAST something from the testosterone especially with the dosage I was taking. I noticed nothing and, in fact as I said before, felt I would have made much better progress if I hadn’t taken it.
After week three, I gradually increased the dosage with each injection. For a couple of weeks, I was injecting well over 1.5g of test-e. This did nothing except make me feel tired and sore. Now that I am off, I feel much better and have resumed normal training again.
About a couple of months before my cycle, I had experimented with taking nolvadex at a small dosage daily for a little over a week. I would say I noticed much more benefit out of that than I did the “alleged” testosterone.
I still find this thread somewhat amusing at times.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I still find this thread somewhat amusing at times.[/quote]
He’s very fired up with me at the moment eh Jakers?
If there was an award for “Phalus,(ie: Schlong in between hard and soft, or semi-rigid state), of the Decade”…well…do the math. 