Jaice's Project

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
You ever do Front squats for quad work? I’m trying to get them right. Still very uncomfortable for me. [/quote]

No, I find them uncomfortable as well. Because I squat olympic style, I feel back squatting mostly in my quads anyway so I’ve never seen any great need to make the switch.

Besides the hamstring and small amount of quad involvement in deadlifting, squatting is the only leg work I do so I just ramp up the volume and it works just fine.

I can appreciate the benefit of machines for pure bodybuilding or in assisting main lifts, but for someone like me who can’t yet squat 1.5 bw (100 @ 70/71) I don’t see the point.

[quote]Jaice wrote:

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
You ever do Front squats for quad work? I’m trying to get them right. Still very uncomfortable for me. [/quote]

No, I find them uncomfortable as well. Because I squat olympic style, I feel back squatting mostly in my quads anyway so I’ve never seen any great need to make the switch.

Besides the hamstring and small amount of quad involvement in deadlifting, squatting is the only leg work I do so I just ramp up the volume and it works just fine.

I can appreciate the benefit of machines for pure bodybuilding or in assisting main lifts, but for someone like me who can’t yet squat 1.5 bw (100 @ 70/71) I don’t see the point.[/quote]

I hear you. Whenever I use a machine it makes me feel like I should either be doing something with a barbell or resting so I can do something with a barbell tomorrow.

[quote]Jaice wrote:

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
You ever do Front squats for quad work? I’m trying to get them right. Still very uncomfortable for me. [/quote]

No, I find them uncomfortable as well. Because I squat olympic style, I feel back squatting mostly in my quads anyway so I’ve never seen any great need to make the switch.

Besides the hamstring and small amount of quad involvement in deadlifting, squatting is the only leg work I do so I just ramp up the volume and it works just fine.

I can appreciate the benefit of machines for pure bodybuilding or in assisting main lifts, but for someone like me who can’t yet squat 1.5 bw (100 @ 70/71) I don’t see the point.[/quote]

Ive just started doing the front squat. After a couple of weeks of tweaking the form, I f now prefer them over back squats, and apparently they have more carry over into “athletic pursuits”. Also feels like they are so much less likely to cause injury, especially with knees and lower back, although im 6’1 and that may have got something to do with it.

Anyway, give front squats another go.

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[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]Jaice wrote:

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
You ever do Front squats for quad work? I’m trying to get them right. Still very uncomfortable for me. [/quote]

No, I find them uncomfortable as well. Because I squat olympic style, I feel back squatting mostly in my quads anyway so I’ve never seen any great need to make the switch.

Besides the hamstring and small amount of quad involvement in deadlifting, squatting is the only leg work I do so I just ramp up the volume and it works just fine.

I can appreciate the benefit of machines for pure bodybuilding or in assisting main lifts, but for someone like me who can’t yet squat 1.5 bw (100 @ 70/71) I don’t see the point.[/quote]

Ive just started doing the front squat. After a couple of weeks of tweaking the form, I f now prefer them over back squats, and apparently they have more carry over into “athletic pursuits”. Also feels like they are so much less likely to cause injury, especially with knees and lower back, although im 6’1 and that may have got something to do with it.

Anyway, give front squats another go.

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I’m a shortarse at 5ft7 which may be why I like back squats - I think front squats definitely work better for taller guys. That being said, I will give them another go, if I can get used to the bar placement.

[quote]Jaice wrote:
That being said, I will give them another go, if I can get used to the bar placement.
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The bar placement feels strange for the first 2-3 sessions, but after that it almost feel natural. Really good for your posture due to the work done by your thoracic and upper back muscles.

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Chest + Triceps

Barbell Flat Bench - 60 x 5, 70 x 3, 80 x 1) x 3

DB Flat bench - 35s x 5, 32.5s x 5, 30s x 5

DB Incline Bench - 15s x 5 x 8 w/ 30 seconds rest

V Bar pressdown - 50 x 3 x 8

One arm OH extensio - 7.5s x 3 x 5

Can’t really feel traditional bench press in my pecs - my grip moves in naturally on the top sets and the tris do most of the work. I can’t feel my pecs in flyes either so stick with more pressing volume - high reps do absolutely nothing for me so I stick to 8 and below.

Back

Deadlift - 140 x 1, 150 x 1, 160 x 1, 162.5 x f

Strict Pullups - 8,8,6,5

DB Rows - 35s x 3 x 6

Seated Cable Row - 90 x 5 x 12 w/ 30 seconds rest

Wanted to get more in but I’m always pushed for time in the mornings - rowing weights are starting to be a bit less pathetic. Will have to get up a bit earlier.

Shoulders/Traps

Press - 60 x 1) x 3 (no need for push press this time)

Clean - 60 x 1, 70 x 1, 70 x f, 60 x 1

Seated DB Press - 5 sets of 17.5s w/ 30 seconds rest - 8,8,5,4,3 (overestimated weight - should be 5 x 8)

DB Laterals - 7.5s x 12,10,8 (stricter form)

DB Shrugs - 30s x 3 x 10 (struggling to ‘feel’ this in traps, will try barbell)

Today was just going through the motions - I’ve got a virus and felt like death warmed up, but surprisingly didn’t feel any weaker, just less explosive.

No training today. Virus has worsened and I’ve also been lucky enough to damage a muscle in the groinal area somehow. I can’t eat anything either so will probably lose weight.

Fan fucking tastic

[quote]Jaice wrote:
Chest + Triceps

Barbell Flat Bench - 60 x 5, 70 x 3, 80 x 1) x 3

DB Flat bench - 35s x 5, 32.5s x 5, 30s x 5

DB Incline Bench - 15s x 5 x 8 w/ 30 seconds rest

V Bar pressdown - 50 x 3 x 8

One arm OH extensio - 7.5s x 3 x 5

Can’t really feel traditional bench press in my pecs - my grip moves in naturally on the top sets and the tris do most of the work. I can’t feel my pecs in flyes either so stick with more pressing volume - high reps do absolutely nothing for me so I stick to 8 and below.[/quote]

I think feeling BB bench in your pecs is something that comes with time. At least, that’s how it was with me. Honestly though, If I’m looking for a pump in the pecs, I stick to push-ups. For some reason they get the blood flowing in there like no other.

Haven’t dropped by in awhile. Sorry about that man. I’m sorry you’re under the weather as well. Rest up.

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:

[quote]Jaice wrote:
Chest + Triceps

Barbell Flat Bench - 60 x 5, 70 x 3, 80 x 1) x 3

DB Flat bench - 35s x 5, 32.5s x 5, 30s x 5

DB Incline Bench - 15s x 5 x 8 w/ 30 seconds rest

V Bar pressdown - 50 x 3 x 8

One arm OH extensio - 7.5s x 3 x 5

Can’t really feel traditional bench press in my pecs - my grip moves in naturally on the top sets and the tris do most of the work. I can’t feel my pecs in flyes either so stick with more pressing volume - high reps do absolutely nothing for me so I stick to 8 and below.[/quote]

I think feeling BB bench in your pecs is something that comes with time. At least, that’s how it was with me. Honestly though, If I’m looking for a pump in the pecs, I stick to push-ups. For some reason they get the blood flowing in there like no other.

Haven’t dropped by in awhile. Sorry about that man. I’m sorry you’re under the weather as well. Rest up. [/quote]

Don’t worry about it mate and thanks for the concern - I’m content to keep plugging away. Pressups definitely pump up the pecs massively like you say, maybe because of how high you can push the reps.

Found out that I have tonsilitis so I’ll be out of the game for at least another week, but on the plus side in the time I’ve been lying in bed feeling sorry for myself my groin injury has cleared up. Every cloud huh?

You still looking at joining RMC mate?

I just ask because from reading through your log, you seem to be picking up the odd minor injury here and there

Might I recommend doing something to help avoid this. From my experience in the military, more people fail from getting injured that not being fit enough.

Try picking up a cheap yoga DVD or something like that. A bit more flexibility and recovery can never hurt, and I’ve found that having better hip mobility helps a lot of back pain and injuries when pack marching and things like that. Injury rates in the military are always too high, you need to take it on your own head to look after yourself.

[quote]Wahuuga wrote:
You still looking at joining RMC mate?

I just ask because from reading through your log, you seem to be picking up the odd minor injury here and there

Might I recommend doing something to help avoid this. From my experience in the military, more people fail from getting injured that not being fit enough.

Try picking up a cheap yoga DVD or something like that. A bit more flexibility and recovery can never hurt, and I’ve found that having better hip mobility helps a lot of back pain and injuries when pack marching and things like that. Injury rates in the military are always too high, you need to take it on your own head to look after yourself.

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Thanks for dropping in man - yeah the intention is still the RMCs or The Parachute Regiment. I have been picking up a few niggles here and there, but this is definitely less than what it used to be since I actually started stretching out, taking contrast showers etc.

That being said, I’m open to anything that’d make niggles less frequent - yeah they’re sometimes the nature of the game but having a few back to back starts to impeded progress. I’ll check out the charity shops in town, they’re great for random shit like that.

Alright man, I had my tonsils removed when I was young, something like 10 years old. I don’t remember much of it, at that age, but I’m sure it’s not a fun experience.

I know you will bounce back. You’re a tough motherfucker. Do what you can, bounce back, and get back on the track you’re on. You are already miles ahead of the game, man. I don’t think that anything is going to keep you from being the alpha in your game.

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Alright man, I had my tonsils removed when I was young, something like 10 years old. I don’t remember much of it, at that age, but I’m sure it’s not a fun experience.

I know you will bounce back. You’re a tough motherfucker. Do what you can, bounce back, and get back on the track you’re on. You are already miles ahead of the game, man. I don’t think that anything is going to keep you from being the alpha in your game. [/quote]

Thanks for the kind words, they’re a real source of inspiration. Hopefully nothing will stop me from achieving if I go at it hard enough.

Chin up soldier.

Set backs are going to happen to everyone. At least your not throwing up.

"Birds sing after a storm; why shouldn’t people feel as free to delight in whatever sunlight remains to them? "- Rose Kennedy

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Thanks for the support guys.

All better. Just going to run push/pull/legs until I put the couple of pounds that I lost back on.

Pull

Deadlift - worked up to 140 for a tough single

Pullups - strict form 3 x 6

DB Row - 30s x 3 x 5

Seated Cable Row - 90 x 12, 70 x 12,10,8

Neutral Grip pullups - 3 x failure

DB Hammer Curls - 10s x 10,8,8

EZ Bar Curl - 25 x 3 x 8

Definitely noticed a loss in strength and loss of size in the mirror.

Push

Barbell Bench - 60 x 5, 70 x 3, 75 x 1, 80 x 1, 85 x 1
DB Bench - 35s x 3, 32.5s x 3, 30s x 3
DB Incline - 15s x 5 x 8 w/ 30 seconds rest

Press - 20 x 2 x 5, 40 x 3, 50 x 1, 55 x 2 x 1
Laterals - 10s x 10,8,8

V Bar Pushdowns - 60 x 3 x 6
Plate OH Extension - 15 x 8,6,4

Deliberately held back by about 5% - getting up early tomorrow to squat because I haven’t squatted in over 2 weeks and I’m anticipating a bit of a shit session.

[quote]Jaice wrote:

Definitely noticed a loss in strength and loss of size in the mirror. [/quote]

I can just about guarantee it’s all in your head man. I’m the same way. Fuck the mirror.

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:

[quote]Jaice wrote:
Definitely noticed a loss in strength and loss of size in the mirror. [/quote]
I can just about guarantee it’s all in your head man. I’m the same way. Fuck the mirror. [/quote]

Yer, I bet your strength levels will be back in matter of days.

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