Israel Invades Lebanon

Tehran Times Political Desk
TEHRAN – ?Israel?s dream to dominate Lebanon will never be realized,? Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Khamenei said here on Sunday during a ceremony held to celebrate the birth anniversaries of the daughter of Prophet Muhammad (S), Hazrat Fatima (SA), and the Founder of the Islamic Republic, the late Imam Khomeini.

Ayatollah Khamenei condemned the Zionists? recent atrocities in Palestine and Lebanon and denounced the United States and some Western countries for their support for Israel, saying that the progressive and open-minded people of the world judge and condemn the atrocities of the Zionists, and this will definitely be effective.

He also denounced some Islamic and Arab countries for their silence about the recent crimes of the Zionists, and said that the human rights violations in Palestine and Lebanon over the past few days have once again proven that the Zionists? presence in the region is a satanic and cancerous phenomenon that threatens the Islamic world.

Declaring that the current U.S. administration is the most shameless one in the history of the United States due to its support of the massacre of defenseless men, women, and children in Palestine and Lebanon, Ayatollah Khamenei said that, on the contrary, the current truth-seeking movement in the Islamic world is in no way comparable with the situation in the past, and its independence, development, and dignity is a promising sign for all Muslim nations.

The Leader also pointed out that Muslim nations are proud of Hezbollah?s brave response toward the Zionist assaults and added that such sentiments did not exist in Arab or Islamic countries in the past, but now Lebanon, a country which was scheduled to become the main base of Western cultures, has turned into a base for jihadi and resistance cultures.

?This is quite contrary to the ideals of the domineering and dictatorial powers of the world,? Ayatollah Khamenei opined.

Commenting on U.S. President George W. Bush?s call for the disarmament of the Lebanese Hezbollah, the Leader said that Hezbollah will never be disarmed because the Lebanese people are grateful and know that it has been the independent Hezbollah that has resisted the Zionists and frustrated their dream of dominating Lebanon.

President: Zionist regime lying about peace

President Mahmud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that the Zionist regime?s mission is to create division and tension among regional countries.

?They are lying that they want peace. Every day, they come up with a pretext to impose their demands,? Ahmadinejad told a ceremony to inaugurate the Mehr-Reza fund.

Ahmadinejad censured the international organizations for keeping silent over Israel?s brutal attacks on Lebanon and Palestine. He called upon the major world powers to make their stances clear and say whether they support or condemn the occupying regime.

?This regime?s barbarities were worse than Genghis Khan and Nero,? he added.

Lebanon accused Israel on Sunday of using banned weapons against Lebanese civilians in its military offensive against the country. President Emile Lahoud said Israeli forces have fired “phosphorus incendiary bombs, which are a blatant violation of international laws, …against Lebanese civilians.”

He called on the United Nations to help “deter Israel from using destructive weapons which violate human rights and the United Nations charter.”

“We are facing a real annihilation carried out by Israel,” Information Minister Ghazi Aridi told reporters after the cabinet meeting.

“Israel is using internationally prohibited weapons against civilians,” he said.

Military sources told AFP that Israel had used phosphorus incendiary bombs and implosion bombs, which suck up the air and collapse buildings.

Pakistan strongly stands by Lebanon: PM

Pakistan stands by the people of Lebanon, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz on Sunday told his Lebanese counterpart Fouad Siniora.

The mainly Muslim nation “strongly condemns the violence being committed against Lebanon” and urges that the loss to life and property stop immediately, officials said Aziz told Siniora in a phone call.

“Pakistan strongly stands by the Lebanese people and fully respects their sovereignty and territorial integrity,” he said.

“We appeal to the world community, the permanent members of the Security Council, the UN and other relevant bodies to intervene.”

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait pledge $70m to help Lebanon

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait pledged $70 million on Sunday to help Lebanon after its prime minister said Israeli attacks turned the country into a disaster area.

Siniora said late on Saturday Beirut needed a comprehensive plan to rush aid into the country.

The official Saudi Press Agency said King Abdullah ordered the immediate transfer of $50 million “for the (Lebanese) prime minister to spend on emergency aid and basic services to alleviate the suffering of the Lebanese people”.

It said the move was in response to Siniora’s call.

The cabinet of Kuwait allocated $20 million “to provide urgent aid to brothers in Lebanon to help them in the face of this barbaric aggression and ease their suffering”.

More than 110 people have been killed in Israeli attacks on Lebanon since Hezbollah forces captured two Israeli soldiers and killed eight on Wednesday. The attacks destroyed key infrastructure, including bridges, power stations and ports.

In Israel at least 12 people have been killed in attacks by Hezbollah.

Iraq parliament expresses support for Lebanon

Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish lawmakers in Iraq’s U.S.-backed parliament often fail to see eye to eye, but on Sunday they stood united in their condemnation of Israel’s military offensive against Lebanon.

Shiite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has been pleading with fellow Iraqis to put aside deep sectarian and ethnic divisions of the kind that plunged Lebanon into civil war 30 years ago.

His pleas have gone largely unheeded, but Israel’s five-day-old assault on Lebanon that has killed well over 120 people, all but four of them civilians, has evoked strong feelings of solidarity among Iraqis, bridging the sectarian divide.

Hundreds of supporters of the Shiite Fadhila party, a small but locally powerful party in Basra, Iraq’s oil export hub, staged a street demonstration, rare in Iraq, in support of the Shiite group, chanting “Yes, yes to Hezbollah”.

Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, the Sunni speaker of parliament, sent a personal message to his Lebanese counterpart on Sunday, telling him that Iraqis supported Lebanon’s efforts to defend its “sovereignty … against outrageous Israeli aggression”.

The Iraqi parliament earlier passed a motion unanimously condemning the Israeli offensive and urging the UN Security Council and Group of Eight leaders meeting in St Petersburg to intervene “to stop the … Israeli criminal aggression”.

It followed a statement by Maliki on Saturday, in which the Shiite Islamist prime minister, making a rare foray into foreign affairs, denounced Israel and warned of the dangers of escalating tensions in the region.

Civilians killed

At least 10 civilians were killed and 20 others wounded in an Israeli air strike Sunday on the southern Lebanese port town of Tyre, hospital sources said.

They had been in a building housing a Lebanese military office and topped by a radar installation that was targeted in the attack, police said. An Israeli helicopter fired two missiles at the building, they said.

An AFP correspondent at the scene said several families had been in the basement of the building after fleeing Israeli assaults in their nearby home villages.

One of the missiles destroyed the top two floors of the building while the second hit lower where the civilians were huddled. Hizbollah rockets also killed eight people in the Israeli city of Haifa on Sunday. It was Hizbollah’s deadliest rocket

Hizbollah said the attack was retaliation for Israel’s killing of civilians and destruction of Lebanese infrastructure.

Solana in surprise visit to Beirut

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana arrived in Beirut on Sunday.

Lebanese officials said Solana was set to meet Siniora shortly.

Solana, who was to hold a news conference after the meeting, could also talk with the head of Lebanon’s parliament, an EU official said in Brussels.

The EU has called Israel’s attacks in Lebanon, “disproportionate” and urged both sides to show restraint.

Solana is due back in Brussels for a meeting of EU foreign ministers on Monday.

Syria vows to respond directly to any Israel strike

Syria warned Sunday it would respond directly and by all means necessary to any Israeli attack on its territory, in its first official reaction to Israel’s offensive on neighboring Lebanon.

“Any Israeli attack against Syria will provoke an unlimited, direct and firm response using all means necessary,” Information Minister Mohsen Bilal told the official SANA news agency.

Bilal accused Israel of “state terrorism” and “operating above the law … ignoring UN Security Council resolutions” and sabotaging efforts toward Middle East peace, as he vowed Syria’s support for Lebanon’s Shiite Hezbollah movement.

“Syria supports the national Lebanese resistance against Israeli aggression. The resistance will triumph and Israel will be conquered,” he said, using a term that refers to Hezbollah.

“Resistance is a legitimate and sacred right,” he added, saying it was necessary to “make a distinction between resistance and terrorism”.

A coalition of Syrian political parties led by the ruling Baath party echoed Bilal’s comments and announced a series of measures aimed at “supporting the Lebanese people’s resistance” against Israel.

Damascus will arrange “facilities” for those Lebanese who wish to reside in Syria or pass through the country, send medical and food aid to Lebanon and “contribute to the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed by the barbaric Israeli raids”, the National Progressive Front said.

Tehran also warned arch-enemy Israel of “unimaginable losses” if it makes “the mistake of attacking Syria” and vowed that it was standing by the Syrian people.

U.S. Disengagement Contributed To Middle East Crisis
By Andrew Tully

WASHINGTON, July 18, 2006 (RFE/RL) – Aggressive acts like the ones Hizballah and Hamas have perpetrated against Israel in recent weeks are rare against a country that has the strongest military in the region and the world’s only military superpower as its chief sponsor.
The raids are attributable less to U.S. engagement in Iraq, for instance, than to Washington’s disengagement in recent years from the Middle East peace process.

Since the start of his administration in 2001, U.S. President George W. Bush has put very little pressure on Israel to use restraint when dealing with its enemies, says Nathan Brown, who studies the Middle East at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

The Bush Administration Seen As Out Of Step

As a result, Brown says, the Israeli government has dealt more harshly with Palestinian militants and their leaders since Bush came to office. Brown notes that while United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are calling for a cease-fire and a UN force to stabilize southern Lebanon, the Bush administration is merely calling for restraint on all sides.

“The United States has taken itself out of the equation,” Brown said. "And by doing that it is, in essence, allowing this confrontation to continue. The United States could step in and say, ‘We’ve got to find a way out.’ And instead what they seem to be saying [to Israel] is: ‘We understand what you’re going through. Do what you need to do; just try not to inflict too many civilian casualties.’ "

According to Brown, one way to stop the fighting would be to bring pressure on Iran and Syria, both of which are said to be strong supporters of Hamas and Hizballah. But, Brown says, the United States has few opportunities to exert indirect pressure on Hamas and Hizballah because Syria’s troops have been withdrawn from Lebanon and Iran has Washington preoccupied with its nuclear program.

Reduced Options

“We want to deter them [Hizballah and Hamas],” Brown said. “The Israelis want to deter them, and we have absolutely no way of doing so: the Iranians, we have a full nuclear agenda with, and, the Syrians, we pressured to leave Lebanon. So at this point, the Americans and the Israelis really don’t have a lot of options when dealing with [Hizballah and Hamas].”

Brown adds that if the United States chose to get involved, it could achieve at least a short-term diplomatic or political resolution because of its influence with Israel. But its failure to do so, Brown contends, is creating the power vacuum that emboldened Hamas and Hizballah to challenge Israel.

Murhaf Jouejati, the Syrian-born director of Middle East studies at George Washington University in Washington, believes the Bush administration is hoping Israel will cripple or even destroy Hizballah. Otherwise, he says, Washington would have led the drive to end the bloodshed by now.

“[U.S. disengagement] is a major factor, and this is why we do not have a cease-fire in place today,” Jouejati says. “I believe the United States is delaying discussions of [a cease-fire] – or at least delaying a [UN] resolution that would impose a cease-fire – in order to give time for Israel to try, as best as it can, to destroy Hizballah. Now of course the down part of this is that in the process, many civilians are being killed.”

Coordinated Actions?

Another possible reason for the timing of the Hizballah raid is that it was coordinated with Hamas. After all, the two actions had close similarities. Jouejati concedes that Hizballah may have felt some solidarity with Hamas, but he stresses that it had more compelling reasons of self-preservation.

“I believe that Hizballah was under domestic pressure from the Lebanese government to disarm or disband or to integrate itself into the Lebanese Army,” Jouejati says. “And we know that the Lebanese government has been holding talks about national unity and national reconciliation. So I think it is within this context that this happened.”

Jouejati says he expects Hizballah will survive, despite the punishing artillery and rocket barrages from Israel. He says Hizballah is far too well rooted in southern Lebanon to be defeated militarily, much less eradicated.

And eventually, Jouejati predicts, Hizballah will return to haunt both Israel and the United States.

[quote]mazilla wrote:
U.S. Disengagement Contributed To Middle East Crisis
By Andrew Tully

… blah blah blah…
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I don’t understand why anybody feels it is up to the USA to dictate the behavior of Israel?

Personally, as much as armed conflict sucks for the population in the area, I think it is high time that terrorist groups and those that support them are reminded that war is hell and that they can’t lob rockets at civilians with impunity.

Really, the way through this situation is with fairness and strength. Countries, such as Israel, have the right to defend themselves against armed agression. This is true no matter how someone feels about Israel.

In fact, I am both amazed and happy to see that other countries in the region are realizing that having a terrorist group ignore the will of the local government is a bad thing.

There is every possibility that this situation is provoking dialog in the region, and not just hysteria amongst the general populace within the greater region.

If at some point in the future the US can actually draw down to low levels in Iraq and let the Iraqi government security forces look after most of the country, and it doesn’t dissolve into warring factions for decades, then this dialog should be greatly strengthened.

We are at a crossroads, which means we have both risk and opportunity in this situation.

Vroom the key is you will NEVER get fair mediation with a biased mediator. It’s the same as having 2 kids in the same house and giving one free reign and money to burn while you treat the other one like shit and punish them repeatedly. It WILL NOT WORK. No matter how much “lip service” you feed them. Never. Why do people think Middle Easteners are this stupid? They see it, right in front of their own eyes. Not to mention they are not gettting “Western Biased Press” but Al-Jazeera. Israel dominates US Middle Eastern policy, not the other way around. They know this, thus the anger at the Hipocracy of the United States. Do you think the U.S. would give ANY Middle Eastern country 2 weeks to “defang” anything involving Israel interests? LoL.

Who said the US was supposed to be a mediator?

I’m saying that Israel doesn’t answer to the US, though it may decide to listen from time to time.

Having the Muslim community crying to the US to save them seems a bit silly in the first place if you ask me.

[quote]Odogg wrote:
Vroom the key is you will NEVER get fair mediation with a biased mediator. It’s the same as having 2 kids in the same house and giving one free reign and money to burn while you treat the other one like shit and punish them repeatedly. It WILL NOT WORK. No matter how much “lip service” you feed them. Never. Why do people think Middle Easteners are this stupid? They see it, right in front of their own eyes. Not to mention they are not gettting “Western Biased Press” but Al-Jazeera. Israel dominates US Middle Eastern policy, not the other way around. They know this, thus the anger at the Hipocracy of the United States. Do you think the U.S. would give ANY Middle Eastern country 2 weeks to “defang” anything involving Israel interests? LoL.[/quote]

Fairly accurate.

[quote]Odogg wrote:
Vroom the key is you will NEVER get fair mediation with a biased mediator. It’s the same as having 2 kids in the same house and giving one free reign and money to burn while you treat the other one like shit and punish them repeatedly. It WILL NOT WORK. No matter how much “lip service” you feed them. Never. Why do people think Middle Easteners are this stupid? They see it, right in front of their own eyes. Not to mention they are not gettting “Western Biased Press” but Al-Jazeera. Israel dominates US Middle Eastern policy, not the other way around. They know this, thus the anger at the Hipocracy of the United States. Do you think the U.S. would give ANY Middle Eastern country 2 weeks to “defang” anything involving Israel interests? LoL.[/quote]

The UN is the mediator. They resolved that Hezbollah disarm and get out of southern Lebanon. They did not.

Hezbollah is the spoiled child that never gets punished. Your analogy is backwards.

[quote]hedo wrote:
From Rueter’s. If this comes to pass. I predict Iran gets hit hard by the US and Israel.

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As well we should. Iran’s had an ass-kicking coming for 27 years now, and it’s way overdue. We kick Iran’s ass and I guarantee you we’ll have no more problems out of Syria.

I already knew that Israel’s pull-out from Gaza and the West Bank would only provoke the kooky Jihadists into doing something stupid. Nobody ever listens to me.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
vroom wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
We as in the World. If Isreal went into Iran, all out shit will hit the fan in the region.

Rockscar,

I’m just suggesting that I suspect some folks somewhere are just chomping at the bit for this to happen…

Yes it’s an obvious attempt by Iran to destablize the area and unite arabs against Isreal and the US. Iran has already proactively said an attack on Syria is an attack on all Islamic states…

Iran WANTS this to happen…and on the very day they are supposed to get resolution on their nuke program.
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There unfortunately is only one option - Israel should nuke Tehran and Damascus off the face of the earth.
If they don’t, the Iranians will do it to them as soon as their bombs are ready - they’ve said as much. In the late 1920s and 1930s no one took Hitler’s words seriously. In Mein Kampf he clearly stated the policies he intended implementing. The Iranians have clearly stated their intentions. Do we think they are joking?
Islam is in a war against the rest of the humanity - and we don’t seem to understand it. Their paradigm is so foreign to our way of thinking that we misinterpret the obvious. Their world is different - there is no separation of Church and state - the Church is the state and their overarching goal is simple - the world MUST be conquered for Islam. It’s a religious imperative.

And don’t forget, Israel is always right…

Israel has a lot of rolling stock on the border right now and the reserves that were called up are in place.

Looks like they will roll in a day or so. I saw the tanks being loaded with munitions on TV this afternoon. Only one reason to do that.

[quote]hundfuhrer99 wrote:
hedo wrote:
From Rueter’s. If this comes to pass. I predict Iran gets hit hard by the US and Israel.

As well we should. Iran’s had an ass-kicking coming for 27 years now, and it’s way overdue. We kick Iran’s ass and I guarantee you we’ll have no more problems out of Syria.

I already knew that Israel’s pull-out from Gaza and the West Bank would only provoke the kooky Jihadists into doing something stupid. Nobody ever listens to me.[/quote]

We’re going to “kick Iran’s ass” how exactly? With an army that is, by most available measures, losing in Iraq? An army that even the most deranged Bush cheerleader has to admit is dangerously overstretched already?

Or with airpower? Read up on Kosovo sometime, or examine the success of shock and awe. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
We’re going to “kick Iran’s ass” how exactly? With an army that is, by most available measures, losing in Iraq? An army that even the most deranged Bush cheerleader has to admit is dangerously overstretched already?

Or with airpower? Read up on Kosovo sometime, or examine the success of shock and awe. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.[/quote]

I think they could be contained with airpower. There is no way a convoy of heavy armor could get out of the country without having the lead elements bombed. Bridges, railways, major highways and so forth would simply be gone once the radar, aa and missile locations were neutralized.

Basically, the US could take out all the command and control as well as any identified military barracks within a period of a month. Don’t even imagine that every target has not already been mapped.

A war with Iran, if it wasn’t for control and ownership of the land, would be much different than a land battle for the purpose of establishing a new government in Iraq. Basically, it would be a neutralization of all their military assets.

However, all that said, I’m not exactly an advocate of it.

[quote]vroom wrote:
However, all that said, I’m not exactly an advocate of it.[/quote]

I am.

It’s still a bit early to go in, though. Israel has to handle their shit first, and then we will deal with Iran.

My prediction: It will take a lot less than a month to wipe the military infrastructure of Iran off of the planet. This whole situation is bullshit. Everybody knows where hezbollah’s rockets came from. Time to roll up the sleeves very soon.

[quote]hundfuhrer99 wrote:
hedo wrote:
From Rueter’s. If this comes to pass. I predict Iran gets hit hard by the US and Israel.

As well we should. Iran’s had an ass-kicking coming for 27 years now, and it’s way overdue. We kick Iran’s ass and I guarantee you we’ll have no more problems out of Syria.

I already knew that Israel’s pull-out from Gaza and the West Bank would only provoke the kooky Jihadists into doing something stupid. Nobody ever listens to me.[/quote]

The US will not be doing any ‘ass-kicking’ in Iran any time soon. You’re bogged down enough in Iraq as it is, starting on Iran too would be a pretty stupid move.

On a side note, I personally would like to see the bully-boys Israel get bitch slapped by Syria.

That is all.

[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
vroom wrote:
However, all that said, I’m not exactly an advocate of it.

I am.

It’s still a bit early to go in, though. Israel has to handle their shit first, and then we will deal with Iran.

My prediction: It will take a lot less than a month to wipe the military infrastructure of Iran off of the planet. This whole situation is bullshit. Everybody knows where hezbollah’s rockets came from. Time to roll up the sleeves very soon.
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why exactly are you an advocate of this??

Some of the shit you have said as a community makes me sick. like rainjacks comment about a free reign- this has been the case for decades. Do your homework. And how many times will people talk about 'they’ve been warring for millenia? YOU talking about this is as stupid as me writing an article on cluster training (i know NOTHING about it)

The peoples that inhabit this region have no more been warring forever than say, france and UK, or America and UK! PUT it in perspective.
Don’t know how many zealots are in here, but chill.

And please understand one thing objectively-

When people say ‘wipe israel off the map etc’ they mean it. Just that. when you consider the geographical growth of Israel at the expense of the nation of Palestine, then you will better understand what is meant.

Palestine has been (internationally sanctioned, or illegally) making itself larger, and palestine small, since 1948, especially since 1967. recently they built a big wall which stole land wherever they saw fit. this wall is protected by 70m high sniper towers. Can you see how such an agent might be resented?

[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
"It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.

-Zec 12:3

Seems rather pertinent… [/quote]

good point

[quote]vroom wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I thought this topic was about Lebanon. He is trying to discredit Lebanon’s legitimate government in his support for Hezbollah to do whatever the fuck they want to.

No, I think the point he made about the rise of government or autonomy is not support for Hezbollah, it is simply a reflection on world history, which might be an encouraging principle for the actions of people like Hezbollah.

US freedom came from revolution but our govenment came from a long process of writing a constution and electing a government. That is why we remain free today.

Sure, but they are related. You grab and defend the land and then put in place your desired form of government. It is through strength that the process is initiated and maintained-- historically.

That is why Lebanon needs their legitimate government to stand and Hezbollah to fall if they are to have any hope of freedom and prosperity on the future.

I agree. Lebanon not only needs the legitimate government to stand, but it must be powerful enough to exert control over it’s own domain. This is actually one of the tests of whether a government governs. Right now, Lebanon has failed to do this, to govern it’s own land.

Hopefully, if Hezbollah is weakened enough, the Lebanese government can take control of it’s entire claimed geography and enforce it’s policies and allow a peace to develop.

It is still about power. If Hezbollah is more powerful than the Lebanese government, and works counter to it, then the government is effectively unable to govern. Israel is in the process of trying to do something about this situation.

External parties may also be trying to influence the balance of power…[/quote]

i agree that hizbollah is more powerful than the legitimate government, no doubt, but don’t agree that invasion (let’s not call it anything else) by America, Israel or any other agent of the west is primarily a selfish action to preserve our own existence, not enrich their political situation. What are Israel doing? ‘Bombing the Lebanese for their own good’?

And i read that Iran has like the 4th largest standing military in the world?

[quote]hundfuhrer99 wrote:
hedo wrote:
I already knew that Israel’s pull-out from Gaza and the West Bank would only provoke the kooky Jihadists into doing something stupid. Nobody ever listens to me.[/quote]

Not with statements like this. It was admittedly a prtial withdrawal, and is akin to me hijacking your house because my great grandmother lived there then wrote a book about it, then expecting u to stop bitching if i let you have half the spare bedroom and didning room back. Not really viable.