[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
So the Abomination approves 200+ grams of protein a day?[/quote]
I wouldn’t even count protein now. Just eat lots of protein in each meal. And if you are gaining, keep it. If over several months you find yourself gaining too musch fat, trim down the calories overall.
[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
I’m just concerned about taking too much protein, where I get to the point that my body can’t process all of it. Should I be worrying about this?[/quote]
It’s nearly impossible to consume too much protein.
When you eat 1g of protein per lbs of BW daily you are already on the “safe side”, getting more protein than your body can synthesize even under optimal (natural) conditions. But additional Protein does not harm you in any way, your body will use it for caloric purposes, and since calories is another thing almost every beginner lacks, thats a good asüect.
Don’t get too confused about the whole thing, first it was low fat or no fat, than it was no carbs, the latest thing seems to be massive amounts of protein. Trends come and go.
Excess of any of the three macronutrients will make you fat, lack of any will limit your gains.
[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
I’m just concerned about taking too much protein, where I get to the point that my body can’t process all of it. Should I be worrying about this?[/quote]
No. You’re tiny. Eat and lift dammit.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
blue_star_cadet wrote:
I’m just concerned about taking too much protein, where I get to the point that my body can’t process all of it. Should I be worrying about this?
No. You’re tiny. Eat and lift dammit.[/quote]
Should I be eating past fullness when I eat, or just eat whenever my body tells me to?
This is being cross-posted on at least two threads. Sorry for anyone who happens onto both. I think the forum shrunk the image though…
How is this for an average daily intake? Should I bump up my calories, lower my carb intake, up my protein? That’s the most I’ve ever eaten (clean!) in one day, but it seems like I might need to go even higher to gain muscle (with the pre-requisite Rippetoes, of course.)
[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
Should I be eating past fullness when I eat, or just eat whenever my body tells me to?[/quote]
I’d say past fullness for a while. At least until you have some decent size on you.
[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
This is being cross-posted on at least two threads. Sorry for anyone who happens onto both. I think the forum shrunk the image though…
How is this for an average daily intake? Should I bump up my calories, lower my carb intake, up my protein? That’s the most I’ve ever eaten (clean!) in one day, but it seems like I might need to go even higher to gain muscle (with the pre-requisite Rippetoes, of course.)[/quote]
Your skinny ass will gain muscle, believe me.
You had better not be training with machines, sir. You need to Squat, Deadlift, Bench press, Pull ups, Dips, Chin ups, Skull crushers, Bent Over rows, Lunges, and calf raises.
Your nutrition program looks fine, but you might not have access to all those foods.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
You need to Squat, Deadlift, Bench press, Pull ups, Dips, Chin ups, Skull crushers, Bent Over rows, Lunges, and calf raises.[/quote]
Most arousing thing I’ve heard all day.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
blue_star_cadet wrote:
This is being cross-posted on at least two threads. Sorry for anyone who happens onto both. I think the forum shrunk the image though…
How is this for an average daily intake? Should I bump up my calories, lower my carb intake, up my protein? That’s the most I’ve ever eaten (clean!) in one day, but it seems like I might need to go even higher to gain muscle (with the pre-requisite Rippetoes, of course.)
Your skinny ass will gain muscle, believe me.
You had better not be training with machines, sir. You need to Squat, Deadlift, Bench press, Pull ups, Dips, Chin ups, Skull crushers, Bent Over rows, Lunges, and calf raises.
Your nutrition program looks fine, but you might not have access to all those foods.[/quote]
I’ve been doing compound movements almost exclusively. Rippetoes taught me to love dips and deadlifts. That’s actually everything I ate yesterday, so access is no issue. 
Would bumping up the calorie count hurt, or lead to fat gain? (I understand there’s always some fat gain with muscle gains, but I want to minimize it.)
[quote]blue_star_cadet wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
blue_star_cadet wrote:
This is being cross-posted on at least two threads. Sorry for anyone who happens onto both. I think the forum shrunk the image though…
How is this for an average daily intake? Should I bump up my calories, lower my carb intake, up my protein? That’s the most I’ve ever eaten (clean!) in one day, but it seems like I might need to go even higher to gain muscle (with the pre-requisite Rippetoes, of course.)
Your skinny ass will gain muscle, believe me.
You had better not be training with machines, sir. You need to Squat, Deadlift, Bench press, Pull ups, Dips, Chin ups, Skull crushers, Bent Over rows, Lunges, and calf raises.
Your nutrition program looks fine, but you might not have access to all those foods.
I’ve been doing compound movements almost exclusively. Rippetoes taught me to love dips and deadlifts. That’s actually everything I ate yesterday, so access is no issue. Would bumping up the calorie count hurt, or lead to fat gain? (I understand there’s always some fat gain with muscle gains, but I want to minimize it.)
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Good. Your meal program looks fine. Just STICK TO IT! Lift, eat, sleep, drink water, and repeat.
Consistency, Intensity, and Rest. The last one doesn’t rhyme, but whatever.
So today was my first day on Rippetoes Workout B (3x5 Squat, 3x5 Standing military press, 3x5 Power cleans, 2x8 Chin-ups) and I just had a few questions about the exercises, if anyone has answers.
Is your military press/power clean supposed to be significantly lower than your bench? I know they use different muscles, but I wasn’t expecting to go so much lower from my bench (a paltry 110 to a more paltry 50 lbs.) However, my power cleans were easier to complete than my MPs, where I only got 2 sets of 50x4 and 1 set of 50x5 - it was really difficult to get the last press over my head.
What’s the main difference between military presses and power cleans? As a whole, the movements felt very similar (almost identical) - or am I just doing something wrong?
What level of progress should I be expecting each session? So far, I’ve been going about 10+ lbs an exercise per session from the previous one, although my bench improved twenty (at the time I thought it actually went down, long story.) Can I bump it past that to 15+, 20+ lbs a session? I know this level of progression can’t hold permanently, but how long can I expect it to last at this rate?
Thanks, everyone’s been really helpful and I appreciate it.
Dude just wait and see. You’ve been lifting for like 2 hours and you already worry about how much you’re gonna be lifting next time. Go get a postworkout meal and get your mind off training, relax.
And no, Power cleans are not at all the same as military presses. Go check out some youtubes.
Edit: Actually I did your homework 
Just to add, focus on lifting with very good form instead of very high weights. You’re on a program called “starting strenght”, but to get strong you need to lift properly. Good luck
[quote]ninjaboy wrote:
Alright, I was doing something wrong then - I’ll correct my form. Thanks for the advice.
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki
That link will have the answer to all your questions for the next year or so. You seem to have an inquisitive nature (which is great), so absorb as much of that wiki as you can. I’d also recommend buying the books, Starting Strength and Practical Programming, both by Mark Rippetoe.
And for food, just eat. Lots. If it’s real food, it’s good. Include plenty of meat or eggs with each meal. When I bulk, my daily plan looks something like this:
Breakfast
In a blender:
2 scoops whey
1 banana
1-2 cups frozen fruit or berries
enough whole milk to blend well
Lunch
large chicken breast, grilled with cheese on top
big helping of rice
spinach, broccoli, or other veggie or salad
large glass of whole milk (about 24 oz.)
Dinner
big steak or salmon filet
large baked potato w/ butter, sour cream, and cheese
veggies in olive oil or a salad
large glass of whole milk (about 24 oz.)
Pre-bed
in a blender:
2 scoops chocolate casein powder
1 cup cottage cheese
banana
2 spoonfuls of peanut butter
enough whole milk to blend well
For snacks I either make a quick shake, or I’d have plain yogurt (made from whole milk) with berries, honey, and granola mixed in. Sometimes I’ll snack on dates and walnuts. Or, my favorite lately is a quart of whole milk, 12 eggs (yes, raw), and a few tablespoons of honey, mixed in a blender. Sometimes I blend a banana or two into it, too. I drink a glass here and there throughout the day. It’s really tasty.
I know you said you don’t handle dairy products well. That’s not the point. Look at how much food that is. It’s a lot of calories, and it may not be a squeaky clean bodybuilder’s diet, but it’s still pretty healthy and it’s all real food (except the powders). Pair that diet with a solid lifting program that you stick to consistently and your mom won’t recognize you in a few months.