The one I followed was in the book “Winning the Arms Race.” It’s out of print, I just looked at a copy some nerd scanned to the internet.
There’s a similar 6 month arm plan in “The Poliquin Principles.” That one is on kindle for a few dollars.
2 Likes
All the outrageous stuff of his that I saw at first for sure made me kind of dismiss him, and not look to deeply into his work for a long time.
Then, last year I was following a program that drew inspiration from Poliquin and referenced one of his books. After that I had to look again.
1 Like
Yes… isometric does elicit MT as well
1 Like
I follow him and Beardsley and some others too.
2 Likes
Bought that one just to be nosey, 6 months of arms training, 3 times per week! I just skimmed the arm section thus far (the kindle version is just a scan of the original, which isn’t bad but doesn’t totally work), so I haven’t quite figured out what on earth you’d do for the rest of your training, I know it’d have to take a back seat - I’ll have to read the programming section to see what’s what.
1 Like
I still have the book
2 Likes
The split recommended in “Arms Race” was like
Arms
Legs
Off
Chest/Back
Off
Repeat
So you’d get to arms again every 5 days.
I was following a different split, either Push/Pull/Arms/Legs or Chest/Back/Shoulders/Arms/Legs and did the Poliquin arm stuff once a week on Arm Day. So there is some flexibility.
1 Like
Beardsley has great graphs and charts.
He’s a genius at explaining things too
1 Like
Robert Cameron (Gardner Jameson), a San Francisco bon vivant, wrote a pamphlet The Drinking Man’s Diet in the early 60s. He worked with a woman (Agnes Fay Morgan) who I believe held the department chair for the nutrition department at Berkley. Her approach was 60 carbs a day was enough. When his pamphlet/booklet came off the press the other dieticians/nutritionists went ape scheit, calling it murder. It is still in print and a pretty good guideline. I might hunt my copy down and start getting ready for swimsuit season.
1 Like
Sorry but Poliquin’s protocol is crap…? He (as many on those years) use to plan specific workouts around an athlete where muscle growth was guarranteed. On these, different parameters were manipulated through months in advance (as even Arnold did) in order to make it effective so you might find sets of 15 for weeks followed by sets of 6 and then some other numbers each month on every parameter because they knew how to make it happen…
On modern days we just get broken pieces of these well planned workouts and we worship them when we get results (as it happens that it was in resonance with our genetics) BUT, when we get no results, we start to speculate and the problem is we never saw the whole picture neither follow the complete process as it should be…
Muscle growth principle haven’t change since the 70s… People has change and must of all, there are now way more people trying to get muscles so we may find working, many more protocols than it use to because of different genetics… Some people could skip some parts of those complete workouts and get results that are enough for them… The rest, when they get stall, will definitely realize they should follow the whole process as it should be…
His books are more than workouts… I don’t think we should be picky about any workout without reading/knowing the whys…
Assuming you are at a desired weight and want to maintain your muscle and maintain health and metabolic function, carbs are the cleanest energy source. You have to get your energy from somewhere if you rely on protein as energy, that is a horrible source and fat is a dirty burning energy source. I am talking about maintaining health (a healthy metabolism); longevity and also maintaining muscle. I used to be a carnivore and most carnivores ditch it after a few years because long term it isn’t healthy…Some stay with it but for the majority it doesn’t work.
What negative health outcomes did you start experiencing after a few years of carnivore eating?
The issues I had started coming up including bad muscle cramps, especially during sleep, being cold regularly (especially hands and feet), was losing too much weight and muscle. I was also walking up during the night and couldn’t get back to sleep.
I still do meat daily (and eggs) but have added back fruits, greek yogart, Whey, Potatoes, white rice and sweet potatoes. All those issues went away and I am gaining much more muscle back. I think it is good for a short term of time but not sustainable for me. (I think my testosterone was affected although I didn’t measure it).
1 Like
How many years did you eat that way?
I found supplemental electrolytes helpful as far as sleep, cramping, and strength went. Did you ever employ those?
A little over three years. I took electrolytes but that didn’t solve my issues. The more I researched I do not think that carnivore is for me. It creates alot of ROS via energy from Fatty acids and not best for metabolic health. I hope it works for you.
. What does that mean?
I appreciate that man. It definitely works for me, but bodies be weird. I do include a weekly meal that includes carbs, and that may be a contributing factor to my success. In doing so, it leads me to believe that, if carbs are necessary, we don’t need THAT many of them, haha. Which lends some credence to what Charles was saying.
Not to be disrespectful to Charles but he died at 57 from a heart condition.