I’m not trying to be a jerk or anything but there are new lifters posting in here and readjg this that will probably be influenced by what they read.
The Internet is such a vast place that anyone can post anything they’d like and I just dont want new lifters getting the wrong ideas in their heads.
NEW PROGRESS PICTURE:
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[quote]MiJuggernaut wrote:
[quote]Antitheist wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Antitheist wrote:
but what you guys dont know is that im hardgainer Ectomorph[/quote]
Everyone is a fucking “hardgainer”
Do you think there are people here who barely go to the gym or eat anything and look amazing?[/quote]
coach in my gym eats only protein no carbs no fat 1200 cal and is 3 times biiger than me with 45 arm … dont you think that genetics play big role ?[/quote]
This is not true. He may not be lying but most people have no idea how many calories they eat, and it is physically impossible to be a large man eating 1200calories. That is like saying he can fly by wiggling his nose.[/quote]
The ignorance of that post hurts my brain.
OP, please read about the law of conservation of mass.
Also realize that if this guy actually ate no fat, he would be dead.
[quote]BHappy wrote:
I too read that is about the max. Nobody needs more than 6 times 30 grams. Billions are made selling scrap that does not make it a fact. Just like politicians they repeat stuff adnauseaum and lots believe. You may see studies that say other wise but they finance studies . . .
I have grown with less than 1 gram per body pound at 54 and many others have even with 1200 cal. or 1000 for woman.[/quote]
Please provde the source stating nobody needs 30 grams. You know, provide title, author, publication, and date please.
And you’re flat out wrong for stating this as well considering there are people on this earth who need more than 180 grams of protein because of their situations.
How much have you grown in six months of training on less than 1 gram of protein per pound? (Yes, you can grow with a BIT LESS if caloric amount is adequate.) Can you provide us with the people (pictures prefered) of men and women with good performance and growth AND HEALTH MARKERS from consuming STARVATION diets of 1000 to 1200 calories per day while working on most days of the week, pretty much a recipe for serious health problems–or death if over the long term. 1000 to 1200 calories doesn’t even provide enough food volume for adequate micronutrient intake.
LOL 1200 CALORIES!!! THATS HOW MUCH MY GIRLFRIEND WOULD BE EATING IF SHE WAS CUTTING FOR A COMPETITION AND SHE IS < 130 LOL
[quote]BHappy wrote:
Objectives: get a little stronger.
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[quote]Ethan7X wrote:
OP, Here , I will help you . serious. First let’s start with putting you on the right training routine.
4 main days:
Mon - SQUAT [Quad/Ham]
Tue - BENCH [Chest/Bi]
Thu - DLIFT [Back/Tri]
Sat - PRESS [Deltoids]
Day1) SQUAT
#1. Back Squat Periodized 2 sets
#2. Front Squat 2x8-10
#3. Stiff Deadlift 2x8-12
#4. Leg Press(paused) 2x8-12
#5. Leg Exten 2x8-12
#6. Leg Curl 2x8-12
Day2) BENCH
#1. Flat Bench Periodized 2 sets
#2. CG Bench(paused) Periodized 2 sets
#3. Incline Bench *Periodized 2 sets
#4. Incline DB Bench 2x8-10
#5. Flye Movement 2x8-12
#6. 4 Curl Movements 2x8-12 each
Day3) DEADLIFT
#1. Deadlift Periodized 2 sets
#2. BB Row 2x8-10
#3. Chins 2x8-10
#4. TBAR Row 2x8-12
#5. Lat Pulldown 2x8-12
#6. DB Rows 2x8-12
#7. 4 Tri Movements 2x8-12 each
Day4) PRESS
#1. Press Periodized 2 sets
#2. DE Bench Periodized 2x10
#3. DB PRESS 2x8-10
#4. Front Raise 2x8-12
#5. Side Raise 2x8-12
#6. Rear Raise 2x8-12
#7. Face Pull 2x8-12
PERIODIZATION SCHEME: USE THESE ON SQUAT/BENCH/DLIFT/PRESS
I will make an example for a 250 BENCH…
Week1 2x10x170
Week2 2x10x180
Week3 2x8x190
Week4 2x8x200
Week5 2x5x210
Week6 2x5x220
Week7 2x5x230
Week8 2x3x240
Week9 2x3x250 (Grats! You just tripled your previous max)
Week10 2x2x260
Week11 2x2x270
Week12 1x1x280 (You are doing +30 pound PR here!)
THE TEMPLATE IS SIMPLE. ADD +30 POUNDS to WEEK12 FROM YOUR CURRENT PERSONAL BEST; then SUBTRACT 10 POUNDS EACH WEEK TO GET THE NUMBERS AND FOLLOW THE SETXREP SCHEME I WROTE FOR YOU.
Note : For Close Grip Bench/Incline Bench; just use 88% and 80% respectively of what your flat bench is. This is just an estimate; just drop the weight from your flat bench for those 2 kinds of bench on bench day. You might be able to use 90% and 80% or something else, I just gave you rough estimated numbers.
Speed Bench day, just take 80% of what you benched on Week1, and add 2.5 pounds a week or so. It shouldn’t be super hard, it is a SPEED BENCH afterall; but it shouldn’t be very easy either.
If this doesn’t work , you honestly don’t have any hope. It is pretty much a guaranteed program, I don’t possibly see how you can mess it up.
Eat 200 grams of protein a day,have carbs before and after your workouts; eat lots of food. Stop with the “exactly 2800 calories” B/S, go to 3-3.5-4K .
Message us back and report when you suddenly are blowing up.
Enjoy ;)[/quote]
where have you been my friend 
im printing this and starting on monday
Speed Bench day, just take 80% of what you benched on Week1, and add 2.5 pounds a week or so. It shouldn’t be super hard, it is a SPEED BENCH afterall; but it shouldn’t be very easy either.
Well there is bench day and where is specificialy speed bench day i cant see
@ gregron
I understand your point, i just modified my profile to
About Me (Click text to add/edit)I am 54, 5 11, 147. Objectives: be healthy, happy, live long, keep feeling young, get a little stronger. I was inspired by Ghandi and a few energy masters i was fortunate to work with. Also i had the priviledge to be at 1 of the dalailama speech/presence. When i was 20 i met Jack Rabbit, he was 104 and he impressed me alot. He died at 111 only sick the last 6 months. When i meet him he was chopping wood and cross-country skiing daily and very funny. In a way he was half his age.
I tought about asking the moderators to create a forum for people like me, not into BB nor powerlifting but i guess we should be paying members because we do not buy powder, creatine and other bottled stuff.
[quote]Antitheist wrote:
Speed Bench day, just take 80% of what you benched on Week1, and add 2.5 pounds a week or so. It shouldn’t be super hard, it is a SPEED BENCH afterall; but it shouldn’t be very easy either.
Well there is bench day and where is specificialy speed bench day i cant see
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After you complete Shoulder Press on “Shoulder” Day, you should see it as the second exercise.
It goes :
Shoulder Press Periodized
Speed Bench 2x10
High Incline DB Press
etc.
Also, I want to add , that the speed bench on week 12 should equal to 70% of your previous max. I don’t know if this quite makes sense to you, but just calculate 0.70% X Your current max. That’s what the speed bench day for Week12 should basically equal on the final week. All the weeks before should be about 2.5-5 pounds less each week; like I said it’s a SPEED BENCH, it shouldn’t be straining,but it shouldn’t be too easy.
@ BrickHead
I am not trying to convince anyone. Over the last 8 months i trained 6(4 weeks off unlucky bicycle fall end of january we have ice here, broken wrist i asked the therapeute i was hoping to train lower half she said no. Also july 22 crazy work schedule 4 weeks off).
I gained 2 pounds and from mirror, shower i estimate i gained 6-8 pounds of muscle.
@Antitheist Listen I know I’ve only just joined but seriously no way you’ve reached your genetic potential, yes you might have shit genetics but all that means is you’ve got to compensate with diet and training. Seriously about 7 months ago I started training again after a shoulder injury(still not 100%) got my weight down from 120kg down to 101kg all while getting my Deadlift from 170kg to 220kg, and training for a charity 10k(didn’t do an amazing time though lol).
I was in the gym 4-6 days a week sometimes for over 2 hours. Stick to the big compound lifts Squats , deadlifts, bench press, military press rows. Work for 6 months building up a good amount of strength, it will pack on good lean muscle, then move to working on hypertrophy and incorporating more isolation work if need be.
Even if you’re switch training programs if you don’t fluctuate your training frequency, volume and intensity your body will stall, the body gets use to things very quickly (at least for me everyone is different). The same applies to diet if you are constantly eating the same 2800 calories your body will get use to it, don’t be anal about calories, just eat and eat big and clean aim for anywhere between 3000-5000 and stick to calorie dense foods (but again clean foods not all calories are equal) and plenty of protein. 2800 is way too low I’m hitting around and I’m cutting. You need to keep your body guessing simple as that.
[quote]BHappy wrote:
I was inspired by Ghandi and a few energy masters i was fortunate to work with. Also i had the priviledge to be at 1 of the dalailama speech/presence. When i was 20 i met Jack Rabbit, he was 104 and he impressed me alot. He died at 111 only sick the last 6 months. When i meet him he was chopping wood and cross-country skiing daily and very funny. In a way he was half his age. ``
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BEST POST OF ALL TIME
Was Jack Rabbit more of a practical joker or dead pan one liner kind of guy?
[quote]BHappy wrote:
@ BrickHead
I am not trying to convince anyone. Over the last 8 months i trained 6(4 weeks off unlucky bicycle fall end of january we have ice here, broken wrist i asked the therapeute i was hoping to train lower half she said no. Also july 22 crazy work schedule 4 weeks off).
I gained 2 pounds and from mirror, shower i estimate i gained 6-8 pounds of muscle.[/quote]
You estimated from looking in the mirror that you gained six to eight pounds of muscle?! You have a unique ability then, the ability to tell body composition stats from looking in a mirror rather than using a scale and skinfold calipers or any other bodyfat measuring device.
You aren’t trying to convince people, but you provide downright absurd information. I don’t wish to fight with you, but what you say here is just ridiculous to us. I really don’t like flaunting credentials here–I think bodybuilding has far more to do with practical application and creativity and experience rather than formal academic credentials or certifications–but I think it applies here to say that I have a BS in nutrition and an MS in nutrition and exercise physiology and I’m a registered dietitian. So when someone says they have PROOF (ie, decently designed academic studies) of a certain phenomenon or practice in nutrition and they can’t provide or it or I KNOW or I have a strong suspicion that it’s not the case, I might point it out, not to be malicious, but so that others don’t get the wrong information.
No offense, but this thread is sad. Seriously. Someone like this doesn’t need encouragement to eat more. They need encouragement to move out of their mother’s basement.
If you are the type to even think that point of development is the most you can accomplish, it isn’t like you will suddenly turn into Lee Priest.
I am all for constructive criticism. I am also for not coddling people who clearly don’t have the drive for this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but this thread is sad. Seriously. Someone like this doesn’t need encouragement to eat more. They need encouragement to move out of their mother’s basement.
If you are the type to even think that point of development is the most you can accomplish, it isn’t like you will suddenly turn into Lee Priest.
I am all for constructive criticism. I am also for not coddling people who clearly don’t have the drive for this. [/quote]
Good post!
I think this also should apply to grown adults who can’t understand the most basic concepts.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]BHappy wrote:
I was inspired by Ghandi and a few energy masters i was fortunate to work with. Also i had the priviledge to be at 1 of the dalailama speech/presence. When i was 20 i met Jack Rabbit, he was 104 and he impressed me alot. He died at 111 only sick the last 6 months. When i meet him he was chopping wood and cross-country skiing daily and very funny. In a way he was half his age. ``
[/quote]
BEST POST OF ALL TIME
Was Jack Rabbit more of a practical joker or dead pan one liner kind of guy?[/quote]
God help us! I missed that post of BH’s.
[quote]BHappy wrote:
@ gregron
I understand your point, i just modified my profile to
About Me (Click text to add/edit)I am 54, 5 11, 147. Objectives: be healthy, happy, live long, keep feeling young, get a little stronger. I was inspired by Ghandi and a few energy masters i was fortunate to work with. Also i had the priviledge to be at 1 of the dalailama speech/presence. When i was 20 i met Jack Rabbit, he was 104 and he impressed me alot. He died at 111 only sick the last 6 months. When i meet him he was chopping wood and cross-country skiing daily and very funny. In a way he was half his age.
I tought about asking the moderators to create a forum for people like me, not into BB nor powerlifting but i guess we should be paying members because we do not buy powder, creatine and other bottled stuff.[/quote]
They have forums for people who want to talk about stuff not related to bodybuilding, powerlifting, etc. If you want to talk about politics and world issues, there’s a forum for that. The Get a Life forum seems like it would suit you better. Any and all topics are welcome there. Highly recommended.
If you don’t like what this site is about (bodybuilding, selling supplements, etc), then why are you here? Serious question, you just bashed the entirety of who/what this site is here for. What’s the point of that?
Hi guys. I’m off to the Martha Stewart Living website. Those bitches have been wasting time talking about laced lounge doilies for far too long!!!
What the fuck is ghandi’s name doing in this thread, or in this forum