Is It Ever Okay to Hit a Woman?

Maybe we can all agree to hit Eva Braun and/or Hitler’s mom.

[quote]Nards wrote:
Maybe we can all agree to hit Eva Braun and/or Hitler’s mom.[/quote]

Whattt?? Eva baby, never did anything to me, Hitlers mom…mmmm naaa from what I hear she was into the brothers so I got no hate for her…

And for the OP - I can give you a Dozen Good reasons to Drop Kick a Old woman down a flight of stairs…but that dosent mean you should want to or that you should be proud of it. Treat everyone and every threat to yourself the same even when you must use physical means.

And chances are if you had time to reason out the “Hit” you had time to walk away.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that.

They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.[/quote]

Hahahahahah, Man I had a nice little paragraph all typed out then yours hit. I swore I would not get drawn into this type of conversation…at least not today. But I do love the way people know a couple people from a certain race and decided to use them as the rep for the whole. “I know some Blacks this Or some Blacks that”
Well how about you just know some dumbfucks that this or that Yes dumbfucks one word.
See nothing wrong with this way of talking but will look at you odd if you said.

“I know some white people that enjoy burning down churches and get upset if try to stop them”
“I know some Germans that enjoy killing Jews”
“Some Romans enjoy killing Christ”
People stop this silly shit. REALLY

And its everywhere I once heard my wife say “most Ethiopeans work in banks” why becuase the 3 banks she went into had ethiopean clerks, of course it had nothing to do with the fact that she worked near a Ethiopean neiborhood.

Yeah…I can only shake my head and chuckle when this stuff happens.

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
What the hell does “being equal” mean?

This implies the assumption that all men (and here I mean the gender) are equal. Guess what, we are not. Nor are all of our experiences the same. We do not have the same access to jobs, opportunities for education, the same skills and abilities, as all other men.

Who are women wanting to be “equal” to and how is this defined?

Let me give an example. Sitting in a fancy NE private college I was listening to the female professor and two female students discuss in class how the night is gendered against women because women are prey to men in the dark. There was all sorts of academic articles supporting this.

So I asked them “How often do you see guys walking alone at night?”
Them “Occasionally”
Me “Okay, how many guys do you see that aren’t big?”
Them “Rarely”
Me “Okay, so you usually see guys in groups at night?”
Them “Yes”
Me “That’s because we know we might get jumped. This is something often learned before high school. Guys move in groups to protect themselves. So explain to me how the night is gendered?”
One female student “Most violence against women is done by men!”
Me “Sure. And the most common victim of male violence is other men.”

Followed by silence.

Professor “We should rethink some of the base assumption of these authors.”

[/quote]

not a good example. Women are also the most common victim of violence by other men and their damage is more significant and it happens more often, including where they should be safest, in their homes.

man I wish I had been in your class.

[/quote]

My point is that one way equality was being measured was freedom to walk alone at night. Not every guy has that freedom (or feels they have it).

Its either men or women as the most common victim, cannot be both. Also, most I have read is that wives abusing husbands is way under reported because of the social stigma attached to it. The term hen-pecked usually implies a level of emotional and continual verbal abuse. Though usually treated as the man’s fault.[/quote]

Men are the most common victims of both verbal and physical domestic violence but they often don’t report it. The biggest problem in my opinion is that if an officer does come to handle the situation and a man was slapped by a woman then he hit her in return that man most likely wont show signs of physical contact and the woman will. The officer has to use those bruises, cuts, or red marks to make his decision and will side with a person who’s those signs of abuse.

[/quote]

SO if it is under reported how do you know it actually happens? Something personal you want to share? [/quote]

I don’t know if I can go that far, it’s painful to talk about. She expected me to have the house spotless and give up my body to her whenever she wanted it.

I’m only kidding. There have been studies on it, what I’m posting in this thread are just the findings of said studies.
[/quote]

Im fucking with you, but again how do you study something that is under reported. I can say I am studying about the anal raping of african american midgets by ginger women wearing stap-ons. Does that make it a valid study? [/quote]

By speaking to the parties involved or just asking individuals in general. If I asked you “has your spouse every assaulted you?” to which you replied “Yes!, I didn’t report it though.” and multiple men were to have the same response it’d be safe to assume that men simply let the assault go unreported.
[/quote]

So the assumption is a guy will not report to police out of fear of looking like a pussy, but will report to some random phone call stating they are doing a study? [/quote]

If that’s the case then any study which gains information in the same manner lacks credibility and isn’t accurate. I wouldn’t call it much of an assumption either, it’s an anonymous interview where a sample group of people are asked questions related to the study. There’s not much to lose by telling some random person who wont disclose your information something that to some degree remains confidential.
[/quote]

Thank you sir that was my point. These studies are worthless and are used by the media to hype things when and if they need it. [/quote]

There is a margin of error as there’s a margin of error with everything however calling them worthless is completely unfounded. [/quote]

Sorry but they are, in the medical field we do not do medicine based off phone surveys labeled a study. The people who do these have an agenda and could really care less. They structure the “study” so they prove there results which is not the true scientific method. Which is to disprove your theory.
Honestly this takes away from the real problem of domestic abuse which is much more than just physical abuse.

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.[/quote]

Jeez, I sure stepped in it, didn’t I? Yes, I would just nod and agree, never say the word. I can’t even say the word on the internet for crying out loud!

Okay, if she’s just Panamanian, then you are just American, right? My point was that people see her skin color and see her as black, not Panamanian.

See, I know people like that too! One chick, named Kirby, who graduated in my college class is a single mom, living in a bad neighborhood on the Southside of Chicago. She got shot in the arm. Due to complications, she will never use that arm again (thank Goodness she’s right handed). She has numerous slings (even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.

She is an inspiration and she would always tell us about the other girls in her neighborhood who were single moms, living on welfare, barely graduated high school, etc., and didn’t understand why she was going to college and in her words “trying so hard”.

She said she wanted to give her son a better life than she had, to get out of that neighborhood, to get away from the guns so that her son wouldn’t have to live in fear, like she did growing up. She said she wanted to raise a strong black man, not a statistic.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
She has numerous slings [/b](even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.[/b][/quote]

I am truly sorry for her injuries, but this I found to be hilarious.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
She has numerous slings [/b](even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.[/b][/quote]

I am truly sorry for her injuries, but this I found to be hilarious.[/quote]

Good lord, Mak.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.[/quote]

Hahahahahah, Man I had a nice little paragraph all typed out then yours hit. I swore I would not get drawn into this type of conversation…at least not today. But I do love the way people know a couple people from a certain race and decided to use them as the rep for the whole. “I know some Blacks this Or some Blacks that”
Well how about you just know some dumbfucks that this or that Yes dumbfucks one word.
See nothing wrong with this way of talking but will look at you odd if you said.

“I know some white people that enjoy burning down churches and get upset if try to stop them”
“I know some Germans that enjoy killing Jews”
“Some Romans enjoy killing Christ”
People stop this silly shit. REALLY

And its everywhere I once heard my wife say “most Ethiopeans work in banks” why becuase the 3 banks she went into had ethiopean clerks, of course it had nothing to do with the fact that she worked near a Ethiopean neiborhood.
[/quote]

That is not what I was saying at all. Having worked with, gone to school with, and actually conversed with black people about black people, these are my observations. I don’t base anything on just one or two people I happen to know.

I actually took a class that was about slavery in America, taught by the grandson of slaves, and learned a lot of interesting things. Africans did not start out as slaves, they started out as indentured servants. A few even bought their freedom and became wealthy. Before this could become widespread however, the idea of slavery reared it’s ugly head, the plantation economy happened, and “black” laws started to be enacted. It took a couple of generations before slavery was considered the “norm” for people of African descent.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
She has numerous slings (even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.[/quote]

I am truly sorry for her injuries, but this I found to be hilarious.[/quote]

I don’t know if they were actual LV slings, but they were made out of the signature LV cloth.

^ Once again your generalizing a whole group on a few.

YES there were some Africans/Italians/Irish/English that came over here as indentured servants but there were many more Africans that came over not as servants but as slaves and this was from the VERY begining. I’m not going to demean your class or the friends you have made.

But I don’t and didn’t think that the 10-20 White people I met growing up in my small little world of Brooklyn NY stood as the reps for an entire group of people. They were Good or Bad just that the people I knew from that area.

[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Once again your generalizing a whole group on a few.

YES there were some Africans/Italians/Irish/English that came over here as indentured servants but there were many more Africans that came over not as servants but as slaves and this was from the VERY begining. I’m not going to demean your class or the friends you have made.

But I don’t and didn’t think that the 10-20 White people I met growing up in my small little world of Brooklyn NY stood as the reps for an entire group of people. They were Good or Bad just that the people I knew from that area.[/quote]

Again, I’m saying that this is what I know, as far as my experiences are concerned. I don’t lump the whole group into a stereotype based on a few. I take each person on a case by case basis. I’m just stating my observations, thus far.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.[/quote]

Jeez, I sure stepped in it, didn’t I? Yes, I would just nod and agree, never say the word. I can’t even say the word on the internet for crying out loud!

Okay, if she’s just Panamanian, then you are just American, right? My point was that people see her skin color and see her as black, not Panamanian.

See, I know people like that too! One chick, named Kirby, who graduated in my college class is a single mom, living in a bad neighborhood on the Southside of Chicago. She got shot in the arm. Due to complications, she will never use that arm again (thank Goodness she’s right handed). She has numerous slings (even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.

She is an inspiration and she would always tell us about the other girls in her neighborhood who were single moms, living on welfare, barely graduated high school, etc., and didn’t understand why she was going to college and in her words “trying so hard”.

She said she wanted to give her son a better life than she had, to get out of that neighborhood, to get away from the guns so that her son wouldn’t have to live in fear, like she did growing up. She said she wanted to raise a strong black man, not a statistic. [/quote]

I was just giving you shit, Grnie! lol. I don’t get bent out of shape over that stuff. And sure, I’ll settle for American. I prefer to be known for my heroic deeds and not the color of my skin. But, yeah, I’ve made that mistake in the past with the nationalities I mentioned.

Your friend sounds like she’d be a source for inspiration, and I wish her and her son all the best. Now, it’s time for me to go boots up. Gotta put in work in the morn.

[quote]four60 wrote:

“I know some white people that enjoy burning down churches and get upset if try to stop them”
“I know some Germans that enjoy killing Jews”
“Some Romans enjoy killing Christ”

And its everywhere I once heard my wife say “most Ethiopeans work in banks” why becuase the 3 banks she went into had ethiopean clerks, of course it had nothing to do with the fact that she worked near a Ethiopean neiborhood.
[/quote]

Ya know what? I don’t think you actually know any people like you said above. I don’t believe it.

Oh and eeeeeeeeeeeeveryone knows most Ethiopean people in America are cab drivers… Geez

[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
She has numerous slings (even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.[/quote]

I am truly sorry for her injuries, but this I found to be hilarious.[/quote]

Good lord, Mak.[/quote]

I know! I’m terrible. Oh well, c’est la vie.

[quote]Dread wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BreStruction wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
No.

don’t ever hit a woman. period.

Don’t hit a transexual, or transgender, or skinny faggot either.

my $.02[/quote]

agreed. even if the woman started something with you, hitting her as a reaction to something they said or did- or emotionally fucking with them for weeks (see DB above); especially when you know they are weaker or more fucked up than you - that is classic douche baggery. Just walk away and stop trying to prove something to a messed up person.[/quote]

Have you ever been hit by a woman hard enough to feel real pain?

This is NOT about some woman talking and then some guy hitting her. This is about VIOLENT women who think they can haul off and hit a guy with no repercussions because society thinks no man can hit a woman no matter what she does.[/quote]

Then subdue and restrain, that’s still no reason to hit. Unless it’s the absolute last resort and this chick is stronger than you (judging by your pics, doubting that’s ever going to happen) and seriously causing you injury/threatening your life.
[/quote]

I am 100% agreeing here…unless the chick is the friggin´She-Hulk on a roid rage rampage and you are suffering from Osteogenesis Imperfecta or she´s chasing you with a chainsaw, don´t ever hit a oman and also, brainiacs out there can cite that it is not that hard to incapacitate someone by subduing the person via joint locks and pressure points, and you can even see vids on youtube about it, and trust me, as my nephew demonstrated on me, little punk, they work…

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I also know some blacks consider education or bettering themselves as trying to “be white” so they refuse to do that. They’d rather be poor and ignorant than educated with a good paying job. That’s why stereotypes still exist.
[/quote]

Seriously? People cant be that fucking dumb?

also… am I the only one who thinks it comes across racist someone reefers to black people as “blacks”??? Every time I see that I think “ohhh!”[/quote]

You know, I’ve kind of stopped caring. There are people who get offended if you call them “black people” or “blacks” or “African Americans” or “people of color”. We just can’t win. So I say what I’m comfortable with. Sometimes it’s one or any or all of the above. I’ve never called anyone the “N” word, unless it was said by a black person first. At my old hotel some of my coworkers would be like “She is such a N. She gives black people a bad name.” And I would agree.

I worked with one chick who was black, but from Panama and spoke Spanish, which is the native language in Panama. When the Hispanic housekeepers heard her speaking Spanish they would bombard her with questions: “How you know speak Spanish? Why you speak Spanish?” And she’d point to her name tag and be like “I’M FROM PANAMA.” They still didn’t like that she spoke Spanish so well, but they would leave her alone after that. They never did that to any of the white associates who spoke Spanish fluently. She also referred to whites as “your peoples.” She’d say to me, “Grneyes, I don’t understand your peoples. You’d never see a black person out running at 5am in mid-December in Chicago. Why do your peoples do that?” And I tell her that runners are a special sub-species of white human: homo sapien runnerus. Because you’d never see a white non-runner running at 5am in mid-December in any city anywhere. :)[/quote]

Let me make sure I’m straight on this, when a black/aa/woc/negro woman would drop the ‘N’ bomb in your presence, you would simply nod your head and agree? Did you SAY IT??? DID YOU??? :wink:

And with the woman referenced above, she’s not black. She’s Panamanian. Just like Cubans and Dominicans. I’m offended. Don’t make that mistake again.

And another thing! I can only nod my head at some of your other experiences, as I’ve been down those roads myself. I especially hate going to a restaurant with a woman, any woman, who harrasses the staff for no reason. Hell, I’ve had to check my mother for that shit. As for the education piece, yeah…I caught a lot of flak for that as well when I was coming up. From being labelled “uppity” to “oreo” to “sellout.” The fun just kept coming. It’s a small reason why I enjoy Facebook. Those same people who labelled me hit me up. They are still in the same city. One has even become a member of the justice system, if you’re picking up what I’m putting down. But, I don’t lump all of “my people” together. Some of those very people know what they are lacking, so they push their kids to obtain what they didn’t. Those are the people I want to try and help when I take off this uniform permanently. But…enough for now. Interesting twist from the OP.[/quote]

Jeez, I sure stepped in it, didn’t I? Yes, I would just nod and agree, never say the word. I can’t even say the word on the internet for crying out loud!

Okay, if she’s just Panamanian, then you are just American, right? My point was that people see her skin color and see her as black, not Panamanian.

See, I know people like that too! One chick, named Kirby, who graduated in my college class is a single mom, living in a bad neighborhood on the Southside of Chicago. She got shot in the arm. Due to complications, she will never use that arm again (thank Goodness she’s right handed). She has numerous slings (even a couple of Louis Vuitton ones) that go with various outfits.

She is an inspiration and she would always tell us about the other girls in her neighborhood who were single moms, living on welfare, barely graduated high school, etc., and didn’t understand why she was going to college and in her words “trying so hard”.

She said she wanted to give her son a better life than she had, to get out of that neighborhood, to get away from the guns so that her son wouldn’t have to live in fear, like she did growing up. She said she wanted to raise a strong black man, not a statistic. [/quote]

I was just giving you shit, Grnie! lol. I don’t get bent out of shape over that stuff. And sure, I’ll settle for American. I prefer to be known for my heroic deeds and not the color of my skin. But, yeah, I’ve made that mistake in the past with the nationalities I mentioned.

Your friend sounds like she’d be a source for inspiration, and I wish her and her son all the best. Now, it’s time for me to go boots up. Gotta put in work in the morn. [/quote]

Oh, I know you were giving me shit! :slight_smile: Thank you for your service and any ass kicking that you do over there.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Oh right. So punching her would be better right choice?[/quote]

No. Living in a society that doesn’t give women a free pass to be insane is the better choice. Watch any live performance of ANY comedian and if a comment is stated about a woman hitting a man, the crowd filled with women will likely cheer.

Why is that?

Violence is violence and if my life is at stake, why shouldn’t I be able to defend myself as I see fit? If a woman pulls a knife, I should wait until she stabs me to defend myself?

[quote]
And no, I never had a woman pull a knife on me (though an ex did punch me repeatedly in the face, neck and chest once, while I resisted retaliating the whole time until she “got it all out” and stormed out of my apartment. [/quote]

That’s you. That sounds pretty damn pussified to ALLOW someone to wail on you while you just stand there unless she was doing no damage at all. If she was the type to try to hit me at all she wouldn’t be living there.

I was about 230lbs and she was maybe 220. This was at a restaurant/club and she was the type who would instigate shit so her man could take up the slack. He looked at me and quit talking so she decided to act as if she was untouchable.

I get it, some of you have been sheltered and think we are talking about sane calm women who are so petite and quiet that any brush of our hand will damage them.

My advice is to stay out the hood.[/quote]

I´d give you a better advise, Professor, with all due respect…try to improve the hood.

I say this not because of any personal feeling, but because, let´s face it, you are right that a person, regardless of gender, has the right to defend against violence no matter who the source is, and considering that proportions are kept and that there are big, heavy, strong women out there who can come at you with a baseball bat or knife,a nd know how to use it properly, you can punch a woman, you may do a joint-lock and such, sweep them and take them down, but…you are not supposed to consider it such a normal and easy thing and you should feel bad about it. Even if they did deserve it.

Also, there´s a difference between hitting a woman and beating a woman. I once saw a woman attack a fellow marine. She was a big badass biker chick, I´d say about 250 pounds and I´d go as far as to say that she packed those 250 pounds with about 10% bodyfat…in a 5’9’’ height wearing steel-toed boots, and sporting a big, 10-inch blade, bowie knife-looking, spiked brass knuckle-handle knife which she knew how to use just like some kung-fu chick.

My friend waved at us to stand down, walked to her, dodged and parried her kick and thrusting stab and then tiwsted her arm while kicking her knee on the side, bringing her down on one knee, wrist locked, his other hand pressing down the elbow as if to snap it and holding her arm at a mean armbar, and shaking her hand to make her let go of the knife.

Did he really go on and hit her? No. Did he had an advantage because of training? Yes. Could he have reacted differently and punched her like a boxer at a 12th round’s last seconds for the points or knock-out ? Yes. As long as he knew how much to give and when to stop giving, according to the person receiving it. My friend stopped at the right moment, gave as much as needed and controlled himself, he did not like it, he was not justifying it and he felt bad for it, because even if the woman was definetly no lady, he sure regretted not being able to prove himself as a gentleman and an officer.

It´s not good to hit a woman, it´s not good to be beat up by one but people, do a quick package check and realize that even a crippled retard could block, parry, dodge and evade or walk away without going too hard on a woman, and if you should apply force, know how much to give and until when, so you don’t cross a line that makes you less than a man.

Because after all, you were born with balls and a dick and you should act like it.