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What the hell does “being equal” mean?
This implies the assumption that all men (and here I mean the gender) are equal. Guess what, we are not. Nor are all of our experiences the same. We do not have the same access to jobs, opportunities for education, the same skills and abilities, as all other men.
Who are women wanting to be “equal” to and how is this defined?
Let me give an example. Sitting in a fancy NE private college I was listening to the female professor and two female students discuss in class how the night is gendered against women because women are prey to men in the dark. There was all sorts of academic articles supporting this.
So I asked them “How often do you see guys walking alone at night?”
Them “Occasionally”
Me “Okay, how many guys do you see that aren’t big?”
Them “Rarely”
Me “Okay, so you usually see guys in groups at night?”
Them “Yes”
Me “That’s because we know we might get jumped. This is something often learned before high school. Guys move in groups to protect themselves. So explain to me how the night is gendered?”
One female student “Most violence against women is done by men!”
Me “Sure. And the most common victim of male violence is other men.”
Followed by silence.
Professor “We should rethink some of the base assumption of these authors.”
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not a good example. Women are also the most common victim of violence by other men and their damage is more significant and it happens more often, including where they should be safest, in their homes.
man I wish I had been in your class.
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My point is that one way equality was being measured was freedom to walk alone at night. Not every guy has that freedom (or feels they have it).
Its either men or women as the most common victim, cannot be both. Also, most I have read is that wives abusing husbands is way under reported because of the social stigma attached to it. The term hen-pecked usually implies a level of emotional and continual verbal abuse. Though usually treated as the man’s fault.[/quote]
Men are the most common victims of both verbal and physical domestic violence but they often don’t report it. The biggest problem in my opinion is that if an officer does come to handle the situation and a man was slapped by a woman then he hit her in return that man most likely wont show signs of physical contact and the woman will. The officer has to use those bruises, cuts, or red marks to make his decision and will side with a person who’s those signs of abuse.
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SO if it is under reported how do you know it actually happens? Something personal you want to share? [/quote]
I don’t know if I can go that far, it’s painful to talk about. She expected me to have the house spotless and give up my body to her whenever she wanted it.
I’m only kidding. There have been studies on it, what I’m posting in this thread are just the findings of said studies.
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Im fucking with you, but again how do you study something that is under reported. I can say I am studying about the anal raping of african american midgets by ginger women wearing stap-ons. Does that make it a valid study? [/quote]
By speaking to the parties involved or just asking individuals in general. If I asked you “has your spouse every assaulted you?” to which you replied “Yes!, I didn’t report it though.” and multiple men were to have the same response it’d be safe to assume that men simply let the assault go unreported.
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So the assumption is a guy will not report to police out of fear of looking like a pussy, but will report to some random phone call stating they are doing a study? [/quote]
I doubt it. A guy gets slapped or mildly attacked in some way, it doesn’t occur to him to call the police. I think unless a guy feels he’s in danger he’s not going to call the police. I know I wouldn’t.
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That fact also makes it hard to compare the two scenarios. A woman being hit by a man far more capable will almost always make her feel like she’s in danger, even if she isn’t, because that’s not within her control.