[quote]forlife wrote:
Yes, but again the point is that the majority of these women in Africa contracting the AIDS virus aren’t getting it from men that sleep with men. They are getting it from men that only sleep with women.[/quote]
Well Africa and The U.S. are different places. You cant put them both on the same standard. You cant compare Atlanta to Swaziland.
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
[quote]forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.[/quote]
Why do many people with HIV live, while others get ‘AIDs’? What virus acts like that?
Is it some sort of magical virus?
If two people in a house have bubonic plaque, would you expect one to die a horrible death and the other to be just fine?
AIDs = one of the biggest scams in history.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.[/quote]
It can’ possibly be that logical or simple.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
Why do many people with HIV live, while others get ‘AIDs’? What virus acts like that?
Is it some sort of magical virus?
If two people in a house have bubonic plaque, would you expect one to die a horrible death and the other to be just fine?
AIDs = one of the biggest scams in history.
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What are you babbling about? You think a virus is not real because the trajectory and course is different for different people. Medicine works differently in some.
And incidentally, there’s nothing magical about it. To take your example, a percentage of people in the Middle Ages who got the bubonic plague recovered. Some never got sick at all despite exposure.
You’re clearly not a doctor. You don’t play one on tv. You didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
forlife wrote:
Yes, but again the point is that the majority of these women in Africa contracting the AIDS virus aren’t getting it from men that sleep with men. They are getting it from men that only sleep with women.
Well Africa and The U.S. are different places. You cant put them both on the same standard. You cant compare Atlanta to Swaziland.[/quote]
A human body is a human body. If we engaged in the same behaviors Africans did (promiscuity and failure to practice safe sex), we would have an epidemic just the same.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61182/gay_propaganda_deception_from_start_pg2.html?cat=9
No matter how you put it, you cant blame anyone but homos and bi men for spreading it.[/quote]
Whatever, idiot. That may well be true. But it’s here now. And rampant unsafe sex in the heterosexual population spreads it damn easy.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
Why do many people with HIV live, while others get ‘AIDs’? What virus acts like that?
Is it some sort of magical virus?
If two people in a house have bubonic plaque, would you expect one to die a horrible death and the other to be just fine?
AIDs = one of the biggest scams in history.
What are you babbling about? You think a virus is not real because the trajectory and course is different for different people. Medicine works differently in some.
And incidentally, there’s nothing magical about it. To take your example, a percentage of people in the Middle Ages who got the bubonic plague recovered. Some never got sick at all despite exposure.
You’re clearly not a doctor. You don’t play one on tv. You didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. [/quote]
But the ones who survived getting the plague got very sick and nearly died. Why don’t some HIV carriers have symptoms?
I guess this very ‘virulent’ virus has a mind of its own and picks and chooses its victims. LOL!
Ah well, the same people who voted for Obama will swallow just about anything. The Age of Reason is about over and we’re living on its last few rays before the darkness.
But look, i dont say violence against gas is right, because it’ll just land you in jail. Besides, I listent to Luther who they say was probably gay, but despite that, I think he was one of the best singers in modern history.
And to be gay…he got a lot of women pregnant. If you ever want to set the mood with your woman, put on some Luther. Just a side note.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
clip11 wrote:
forlife wrote:
Yes, but again the point is that the majority of these women in Africa contracting the AIDS virus aren’t getting it from men that sleep with men. They are getting it from men that only sleep with women.
Well Africa and The U.S. are different places. You cant put them both on the same standard. You cant compare Atlanta to Swaziland.
A human body is a human body. If we engaged in the same behaviors Africans did (promiscuity and failure to practice safe sex), we would have an epidemic just the same.[/quote]
Im not an idiot, you are because you dont read. The head of the World Health Orginization, Dr. Kevin de Cock admitted that outside of sub saharan Africa there would most likely never be a heterosexual AIDS epidemic. So who am I to believe, the head of the largest health group in the world, who bases his opinion on various facts and mathematical probability…or you, who bases your opinion on nothing but the way you feel about homosexuals?
Here in the U.S. if men stopped practicing homosexuality and if gay and bi men were celibate, it would be better for everyone. Because based on the information I was able to gether from several sources, which i have posted throughout this thread if you care to read them, if men stopped practicing homosexuality the HIV rate would plumet!
[quote]forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.[/quote]
Give me proof of it not being a gay disease. Im not talking about some isolated incidents, im talking some proof of heterosexual, especially heterosexual men, here in the U.S.A getting HIV in mass numbers.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
Here in the U.S. if men stopped practicing sex and if men were celibate, it would be better for everyone. [/quote]
I fixed it for you.
What is so hard to understand about this? It’s obvious that gays, bisexuals, and heterosexuals can all catch HIV through unprotected vaginal or anal sex.
It’s also obvious that people who practice safe sex, gay or straight, are at low to no risk of catching HIV.
Why are you targeting gays when the real issue is safe sex?
[quote]clip11 wrote:
Give me proof of it not being a gay disease.[/quote]
Step back for a second and think.
If a man is infected with HIV, do you think a woman having unprotected vaginal or anal sex with him is at significant risk of catching the virus?
If that woman happens to be another man, do you think he is at any higher risk of catching the virus?
Obviously, it is a high risk in both cases. Whether it is a man and a woman or two men makes zero difference.
The lowest risk group would actually be two women having sex. Or do you exclude lesbians when you call it a “gay disease”?
In both of those scenarios, where did the man get it from? According to medical evidence, it was either from same gender sex or IV drug using.
If he man didnt have it, the woman wouldnt be at risk.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
Why do many people with HIV live, while others get ‘AIDs’? What virus acts like that?
Is it some sort of magical virus?
If two people in a house have bubonic plaque, would you expect one to die a horrible death and the other to be just fine?
AIDs = one of the biggest scams in history.
What are you babbling about? You think a virus is not real because the trajectory and course is different for different people. Medicine works differently in some.
And incidentally, there’s nothing magical about it. To take your example, a percentage of people in the Middle Ages who got the bubonic plague recovered. Some never got sick at all despite exposure.
You’re clearly not a doctor. You don’t play one on tv. You didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
But the ones who survived getting the plague got very sick and nearly died. Why don’t some HIV carriers have symptoms?
I guess this very ‘virulent’ virus has a mind of its own and picks and chooses its victims. LOL!
Ah well, the same people who voted for Obama will swallow just about anything. The Age of Reason is about over and we’re living on its last few rays before the darkness.
[/quote]
Your own posts verify that last statement. Especially since everything you “discuss” as of late gets tied to Obama somehow…so sad. You have a man crush.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
Give me proof of it not being a gay disease. Im not talking about some isolated incidents, im talking some proof of heterosexual, especially heterosexual men, here in the U.S.A getting HIV in mass numbers.[/quote]
HIV is spreading like wildfire among AA’s and Hispanics here in NYC, and alot of people are taking it very serious at the moment. It makes me very suspicious as to who I’d like to date. I think the rates among Hispanics and AA’s are five times higher than caucasians.
Edit:
While I don’t doubt that homosexuality is having an impact here it is much harder to measure said impact among minorities that might live double lives because of culture, dogma, religion, etc…so I say it’s probably a mix of both.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
In both of those scenarios, where did the man get it from? According to medical evidence, it was either from same gender sex or IV drug using.
[/quote]
It’s possible for men to catch HIV from women, just not as high a risk as women catching HIV from men.
You would still be a fool to have unprotected sex with a woman, especially knowing that she has HIV.
[quote]forlife wrote:
clip11 wrote:
In both of those scenarios, where did the man get it from? According to medical evidence, it was either from same gender sex or IV drug using.
It’s possible for men to catch HIV from women, just not as high a risk as women catching HIV from men.
You would still be a fool to have unprotected sex with a woman, especially knowing that she has HIV.[/quote]
/thread
[quote]forlife wrote:
clip11 wrote:
In both of those scenarios, where did the man get it from? According to medical evidence, it was either from same gender sex or IV drug using.
It’s possible for men to catch HIV from women, just not as high a risk as women catching HIV from men.
You would still be a fool to have unprotected sex with a woman, especially knowing that she has HIV.[/quote]
Thats obvious. If I knew a woman had hiv i certainly wouldnt.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
forlife wrote:
The problem is, you are trying to paint AIDS as the “gay disease” based on information from the U.S. only. Unless you consider the global facts, and update your information here in the U.S. as well, you aren’t making an educated judgment on the issue.
The fact is, AIDS is no respector of persons and sexual orientation is irrelevant. If you are having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, you are at risk of catching HIV.
Bottom line: have safe sex, whether you are gay or straight.
Why do many people with HIV live, while others get ‘AIDs’? What virus acts like that?
Is it some sort of magical virus?
If two people in a house have bubonic plaque, would you expect one to die a horrible death and the other to be just fine?
AIDs = one of the biggest scams in history.
What are you babbling about? You think a virus is not real because the trajectory and course is different for different people. Medicine works differently in some.
And incidentally, there’s nothing magical about it. To take your example, a percentage of people in the Middle Ages who got the bubonic plague recovered. Some never got sick at all despite exposure.
You’re clearly not a doctor. You don’t play one on tv. You didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
But the ones who survived getting the plague got very sick and nearly died. Why don’t some HIV carriers have symptoms?
I guess this very ‘virulent’ virus has a mind of its own and picks and chooses its victims. LOL!
Ah well, the same people who voted for Obama will swallow just about anything. The Age of Reason is about over and we’re living on its last few rays before the darkness.
[/quote]
HIV carriers do have systems. Some have minimal symptoms because we have a very sophisticated cocktail of drugs that works well. Better in some than others. Judging by your comments in this and other threads, you’ve always lived in the dark. So, nothing to worry about.