Hello fellow T-nationers, watched Game Changers on Netflix last night, a doco about renowned athletes and scientists who prove that everything we have been taught about protein was a lie. Has anyone here gone from being a meat-eater to a vegan based diet and still able to build quality muscle, compared to when they were on meat?
The only downsides I can see is the need for B12, iron, zinc supplements and the hassle of sourcing quality edible foods that actually taste good. Arnold is his usual funny-as-fuck self, āwho the fuck are you too tell me I carānt eat meatā
Worth a watch. 
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good old doco that made me became a vegan for a monthā¦ NEVER AGAIN
Youāve got to rename this thread:
āBeating meat for a better penisā
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Good point
Their deadlift spotter was playing tricks on them.
(Its for better glute activation bro!)
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Cooking meat is more the risk honestly: thatās why I quit frying bacon naked.
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True, with the amount of water in bacon nowadays, it can spit like fuck, abit like my penis on a good morning hahaha
100% sure it is not. 
Vegan takes a lot of work to make work. When people think Vegan, they think of those wonderfully nutritious indian or Vietnamese dishes. What I see most Vegans put down is fries cooked in canola oil, soy based meat substitute, rice/pasta with a sauce from a jar, chips, etc
Just taking the meat out of an awful diet does not make it a good one. Similarly, that many with poor diets eat meat does not make meat bad.
But that movie did a great job at embarrassing itself, not much need to go over it again.
I have been vegetarian for long periods of time while still maintaining/building muscle and performance.
I have eaten meat for long periods of time while still maintaining/building muscle and performance.
I had no drop offs from ālack of nutrientsā
Eat and train with purpose and it doesnāt matter what diet you follow.
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For provocation/discussion: What is wrong with the lionās diet? Followers swear by the health benefits, being cured for all forms of hellish disease.
Anyone here following it?
(My take on the lionās diet: ā¦I donāt think soā¦)
Pure propaganda.
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No, it is not.
No, they did not.
Years back, I went vegetarian for a month and vegan for the following month. In 8 weeks, I ended up losing 12 pounds while trying to maintain size.
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The main thing wrong is that Iāve never heard of it. Heard of the Carnivore Diet, heard of the Predator Diet, never heard of the Lionās Diet.
Based on the masculine sounding names I guess itās all the same thing: Meat, and meat only.
Brother, you are in for a ride: The Predator Program
Separately, this article talked about some issues with a meat-only diet.
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My god! Iāve just finished reading the whole predator diet thread and now I regret it. You did warn me (didnāt you) - but I never expectedā¦ that! There is something deeply disturbing with that thread (and the main character), initially presented in all itās grandeur, and then - absolutely nothing!
I just had to google the āauthorā and behold - he recently spent some time in a psychiatric facility, and wrote a ābookā about that experience also.
Have you considered putting warning signs on threads that make you feel ill?
Thank god then for a well written T Nation article on the issues with a meat only diet. My thoughts exactly. Iād better head off for some heavy iron threads now to be heal again!
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