Em hi.
I think bodybuilding is as hard or as easy as you want it to be.
Same with any other sport you play.
[quote]FutureKing wrote:
Em hi.
I think bodybuilding is as hard or as easy as you want it to be.
Same with any other sport you play.[/quote]
Please check your E2 levels.
[quote]Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
[/quote]
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.
[quote]will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.[/quote]
It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
[/quote]
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.
[quote]will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.[/quote]
Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
[/quote]
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?
[quote]will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?[/quote]
I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves. [/quote]
There are many fights where it is questionable how many punches were actually landed based on the perspective of the judges. You somehow overlook this in some lame attempt to keep this discussion going.
We get it. You don’t like bodybuilding. Big fucking deal.
It isn’t easy because if it were YOU would be extremely built by now.
Post pics please.
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[quote]Alffi wrote:
I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves. [/quote]
How hard are those punches? Did they really effect the opponent? Part of the judging is looking at the condition of the fighters to determine who held up the best. I’m not an expert on boxing or anything, but I’ve watched enough boxing matches to tell that people can have different ideas as to who did better in a round.
You also write as if there aren’t controversial decisions in boxing. Do you even follow this sport that you’re using as a standard?
As for your comments, ‘as far as you know’, yeah, it’s pretty clear you don’t know much about bodybuilding judging.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves.
There are many fights where it is questionable how many punches were actually landed based on the perspective of the judges. You somehow overlook this in some lame attempt to keep this discussion going.
We get it. You don’t like bodybuilding. Big fucking deal.
It isn’t easy because if it were YOU would be extremely built by now.
Post pics please.
[/thread][/quote]
It is the people,like you,who keep this discussion going because I don’t want to be rude and not answer points that most likely were meant to be answered, unless they are just slander,like a few of your posts.
Let’s say there are many fights like that as opposed to bodybuilding which does not only have subjective judging but subjective or non-existent competition objectives as well,or so it seems judging by the lack of responses criticizing me for presenting that view. This is the same thing I answered a little earlier. Rules are set,controversies can arise. Maybe those rules could use a little fixing to prevent those controversies but they are still there.
And I never said I dislike bodybuilding.
After much detailed discussion you have correctly managed to establish that boxing and bodybuilding are not the same thing and, in fact, have different rules.
This is a towering achievement.
If you want to stage a debate on whether or not bodybuilding is a sport you need to define what a sport is.
Thefreedictionary defines it as follows “Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively”.
By this definition bodybuilding is indeed a sport.
However, so is competitive baking.
This post is not designed to clarify but to confuse. To obfuscate rather than illuminate.
Their are no black and white rules for these things.
This discussion is pointless.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves.
There are many fights where it is questionable how many punches were actually landed based on the perspective of the judges. You somehow overlook this in some lame attempt to keep this discussion going.
We get it. You don’t like bodybuilding. Big fucking deal.
It isn’t easy because if it were YOU would be extremely built by now.
Post pics please.
[/thread]
It is the people,like you,who keep this discussion going because I don’t want to be rude and not answer points that most likely were meant to be answered, unless they are just slander,like a few of your posts.
Let’s say there are many fights like that as opposed to bodybuilding which does not only have subjective judging but subjective or non-existent competition objectives as well,or so it seems judging by the lack of responses criticizing me for presenting that view. This is the same thing I answered a little earlier. Rules are set,controversies can arise. Maybe those rules could use a little fixing to prevent those controversies but they are still there.
And I never said I dislike bodybuilding.
[/quote]
There are rules in bodybuilding.
Please list them for us since you follow the sport so closely.
You do know them, right?
I mean, you would have to in order to not look like a fool right now.
Hint: You keep getting responses because you are an easy target (too easy) and people are bored.
sigh
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Thefreedictionary defines it as follows “Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively”.
By this definition bodybuilding is indeed a sport.
However, so is competitive baking.
[/quote]
Hey, if you competitive baked like I competitive bake you would know it’s a sport.
Bodybuilding is not easy.
[quote]will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.[/quote]
Hahahah. I was gonna say, if he thinks it’s so clear, go talk to the multitude of fighters who get ripped off in split decisions every year… or ask Roy Jones about his gold medal…
[quote]Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Alffi wrote:
will to power wrote:
Freaky Styley wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
So boxing’s not a sport, huh?
And not that I consider BB’ing a sport, because I don’t (not like the title really means anything), but don’t make blanket statements like this. Makes you seem foolish.
Boxing’s different as there is direct competition against an opponent as well as a judging system.
Yeah, because in bodybuilding there isn’t direct competition against opponents as well as a judging system.
Some people need to take their stupid with them and leave.It does not have clear rules like boxing etc.
You go there and prance around and pray that the judges like what they see,or maybe the music they hear. Could it be less mysterious if they simply tested the contestants’ for bone structure,muscle size,BF level and proportions etc. rather than having the contestants rely on creating an illusion. Of course that would not be as fascinating,but as it stands,it is not much different from a beauty contest.
Clarity of rules does not define whether or not something is a sport.
Even if it did, your point would still be retarded, because scoring in boxing is also subjective. That’s why they have multiple judges nowadays.Boxing referees are fallible men (like referees/judges in all sports) but the rules themselves are clear. Big difference.
And you are making this based on your detailed knowledge of the rules and judging criteria for both sport are you?I know that in boxing you get ahead by landing punches and dodging them. Crazy decisions like declaring the beaten boxer a winner do not pass by that easily,the referee will have to answer to someone. For all I know,a bodybuilder could get ahead or shafted for having a certain type of face or skin colour. And I don’t know if the judges would have to answer to anyone but themselves. [/quote]
LOL. You really don’t know what you’re talkig about.
I’m leaving this alone.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
A BB’er can be happy with getting sore and lactic in the right places. He does not need to care about strength,speed,mobility,technique etc. and to psychologically push himself to new heights with maximum weights. He can employ methods that retard strength development,like lifting fatigued and slowing down a small weight to get that time under tension and the pump.Even partial ROM may be excused. He can switch exercises on and off, if strength in one goes down it’s allright,as long as the target muscles are torn. Just pump out a moderate weight for a while. That’s pretty fun and not stressful at all.
[/quote]
I don’t understand why you would write this. Bodybuilding is hard work and requires planning out routines and diets. Since appearance is part of the sport, unlike any other sport I can think of, it is actually more complicated than other sport.
I am sorry to say this but you are very wrong.
[quote]kova wrote:
FutureKing wrote:
Em hi.
I think bodybuilding is as hard or as easy as you want it to be.
Same with any other sport you play.
Please check your E2 levels.
[/quote]
I dont know what E2 levels are ??
What do they do ?