I recently got the Ironmind Wicked Wrist Roller. I need to mount it to a bar on the power rack. The bar, as I understand, needs to be 1" diameter, and 50" long, medium carbon steel, and with some sort of end caps to keep it from coming off of the power rack. Does anyone have a source for such a bar?
How about the safety pins? I think those should be 1" in diameter and long enough (depending on the rack). I’m not sure if I know exactly what your asking, but try that. lol.
What do you need to mount it for?
I have and love that thing.
[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
What do you need to mount it for?
I have and love that thing. [/quote]
Ironmind says “it can be used in free-standing mode or on a 1” or 1-1/16" bar." That means it can either be used standing on something with the arms hanging down, or with the arms out in front, with the wrist roller supported on a bar.
The document that comes with it says “The reason for letting your arms hang down as you train with the wrist roller, or for supporting it on the Vulcan RackII+ Wrist Roller Bar or in a power rack, ist o take the strain off your shoulders–otherwise you will turn an excellent forearm movement into a mediocre deltoid movement. Remember, your goal is to work your forearms to the hilt, so make sure that your forearm work isn’t limited by what other muscle groups can stand.”
[quote]blw3 wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
What do you need to mount it for?
I have and love that thing.
Ironmind says “it can be used in free-standing mode or on a 1” or 1-1/16" bar." That means it can either be used standing on something with the arms hanging down, or with the arms out in front, with the wrist roller supported on a bar.
The document that comes with it says “The reason for letting your arms hang down as you train with the wrist roller, or for supporting it on the Vulcan RackII+ Wrist Roller Bar or in a power rack, ist o take the strain off your shoulders–otherwise you will turn an excellent forearm movement into a mediocre deltoid movement. Remember, your goal is to work your forearms to the hilt, so make sure that your forearm work isn’t limited by what other muscle groups can stand.”[/quote]
So why don’t you stand on something and let it hang down as you roll it?
Balconies are fun to do it off of. I usually just use a tall bench or chair.
[quote]elusive wrote:
How about the safety pins? I think those should be 1" in diameter and long enough (depending on the rack). I’m not sure if I know exactly what your asking, but try that. lol.[/quote]
Question 1: Where do you get a 50" long, 1" diameter, medium carbon steel bar?
Question 2: What kind of end caps can you use, which will allow the wrist roller to be threaded onto the bar, but keep the bar from coming off of the power rack?
[quote]LiftSmart wrote: So why don’t you stand on something and let it hang down as you roll it?
Balconies are fun to do it off of. I usually just use a tall bench or chair.
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There are two ways to use it. That is one way, but not the only way. Variety is the spice of life. That’s what she said. 
[quote]blw3 wrote:
elusive wrote:
How about the safety pins? I think those should be 1" in diameter and long enough (depending on the rack). I’m not sure if I know exactly what your asking, but try that. lol.
Question 1: Where do you get a 50" long, 1" diameter, medium carbon steel bar?
Question 2: What kind of end caps can you use, which will allow the wrist roller to be threaded onto the bar, but keep the bar from coming off of the power rack?[/quote]
I’ve never actually used a wrist roller so I’m not sure how it mounts to a power rack. However, the safety pins that you adjust depending on how low you squat or how high you rack dead should be 1" in diameter. The “end caps” should be the rack itself, by threading the roller onto the safety pins as you lock them into the set height of the rack. This should work. Maybe someone can explain what I’m trying to say better.
[quote]elusive wrote:
I’ve never actually used a wrist roller so I’m not sure how it mounts to a power rack. However, the safety pins that you adjust depending on how low you squat or how high you rack dead should be 1" in diameter. The “end caps” should be the rack itself, by threading the roller onto the safety pins as you lock them into the set height of the rack. This should work. Maybe someone can explain what I’m trying to say better. [/quote]
Okay, imagine a 50" bar. Just a straight bar. Now thread the wrist roller onto it, so that it is in the center. Now place it on the power rack. Then start using the wrist roller. There is now weight in the air, as you roll it up. What is to keep that straight bar from coming off of the power rack? That is what I meant by end caps. Really, I just need to find a source of medium carbon bars first. That is what a guy at Ironmind told me they use on their bar for the Vulcan rack. I do not have a Vulcan rack. I have a Weider power rack. Ironmind’s bar will not work with a generic power rack. So, I need to get a bar. I do not shop very often for steel bars, and when I do, they are already made. This is one that is not in existence, although Ironmind does mention mounting the wrist roller to a power rack. Home Depot and Lowes are not going to carry medium carbon steel bars to use for weightlifting. Where do I get one, when I can’t get one from Ironmind? Perhaps this explains my question better. Thanks for the help.
Maybe this site can help:
http://www.fractionalplates.com/cgi-bin/edatcat/PDAstore.cgi?user_action=link&link=mainpage
They can custom build just about anything.
Try fitting that onto a standard 7ft straight bar instead of the olympic style…Im pretty sure it would slide on there, the you can just rack the bar at whatever hight you need and use it that way.
Just a though.
[quote]thaiclinch wrote:
Try fitting that onto a standard 7ft straight bar instead of the olympic style…Im pretty sure it would slide on there, the you can just rack the bar at whatever hight you need and use it that way.
Just a though.[/quote]
Actually I know that it will fit on there because a standard bar is 1", so I would try that.
hey blw3
what elusive suggested is a good idea as you should already have the safety spotter bars on your rack . they are 1" in diameter and lock in place . you would be using the roller from the side of rack but so what . As far as the pic im posting , if this is the style of rack you have then just get a 1" diameter Uni-Bit or 1 1/2 " steel drill bit from home depot etc , and drill an extra hole or two in the rear support to match the holes in the front , its a hell of a lot easier to do then search for custom bar and it will not effect tower .
the only potential prob is if you are using the power rack that has the non removable bars . in that case you would need to order a bar from a forge or local machine shop something like 50 bucks at least .
[quote]thaiclinch wrote:
Try fitting that onto a standard 7ft straight bar instead of the olympic style…Im pretty sure it would slide on there, the you can just rack the bar at whatever hight you need and use it that way.
Just a though.[/quote]
This was the first approach I was going to try. However, Ironmind said it would not work, because of the two places on the bar designed to stop the weight plate. The wrist roller would not fit over those. No part of the bar can be greater than 1-1/16" in diameter. The wrist roller would not make it to the middle of the bar. After reading your post, I double-checked, and it appears that Ironmind is correct. The standard weight bar would not work.
[quote]traps3616 wrote:
hey blw3
what elusive suggested is a good idea as you should already have the safety spotter bars on your rack . they are 1" in diameter and lock in place . you would be using the roller from the side of rack but so what . As far as the pic im posting , if this is the style of rack you have then just get a 1" diameter Uni-Bit or 1 1/2 " steel drill bit from home depot etc , and drill an extra hole or two in the rear support to match the holes in the front , its a hell of a lot easier to do then search for custom bar and it will not effect tower .
the only potential prob is if you are using the power rack that has the non removable bars . in that case you would need to order a bar from a forge or local machine shop something like 50 bucks at least .
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Thank you for the idea. It took me awhile to understand, but it would work if I had that kind of power rack. Unfortunately, my power rack has 2" steel tubes instead of the removable safety bars. The bar rests on the front as shown in your picture. Apparently, I will have to get the custom bar. It seems I should be able to go into a commercial steel supply distributor, but I don’t know who to go to. So, I will probably use the custom forge shop referred to above. Thanks again for the idea though.
[quote]blw3 wrote:
thaiclinch wrote:
Try fitting that onto a standard 7ft straight bar instead of the olympic style…Im pretty sure it would slide on there, the you can just rack the bar at whatever hight you need and use it that way.
Just a though.
This was the first approach I was going to try. However, Ironmind said it would not work, because of the two places on the bar designed to stop the weight plate. The wrist roller would not fit over those. No part of the bar can be greater than 1-1/16" in diameter. The wrist roller would not make it to the middle of the bar. After reading your post, I double-checked, and it appears that Ironmind is correct. The standard weight bar would not work.[/quote]
Are you able to get a 7ft 1" bar at like Lowes or home Depot and you could just get 2 1" spring collars to lock it in place, just another idea.
[quote]thaiclinch wrote:
blw3 wrote:
thaiclinch wrote:
Try fitting that onto a standard 7ft straight bar instead of the olympic style…Im pretty sure it would slide on there, the you can just rack the bar at whatever hight you need and use it that way.
Just a though.
This was the first approach I was going to try. However, Ironmind said it would not work, because of the two places on the bar designed to stop the weight plate. The wrist roller would not fit over those. No part of the bar can be greater than 1-1/16" in diameter. The wrist roller would not make it to the middle of the bar. After reading your post, I double-checked, and it appears that Ironmind is correct. The standard weight bar would not work.
Are you able to get a 7ft 1" bar at like Lowes or home Depot and you could just get 2 1" spring collars to lock it in place, just another idea.[/quote]
neither depot nor lowes carries anything that would work safely (i happen to wrk as management for depot) but you can find all you need usually under STEEL DISTRIBUTORS/ STEEL WAREHOUSES in yellow pages or better yet online search under google - ie. Steel distributors in chicago …you should find someone fast .
I finally got a 5’ carbon steel bar, 1" in diameter, from a client. It was almost a piece of junk … rusted, painted, pitted … but I used Prep & Etch phosphoric acid & a wire brush attachment on a drill to clean it off. Then it was a simple matter to place it on the power rack with the wrist roller on it. Why something this simple has to be complicated is beyond me. It works great. It makes all the difference to have all the weight supported, and be able to focus on the forearm movement. The bar Ironmind sells is too short for most power racks. But their product, the wrist roller, is a piece of art, works great, and is worth every penny. Pictures are attached.
Looks like a great set up. Enjoy and thanks for the update.