[quote]mrodock wrote:
[ Now I need one for special occasions . . . I’ll just use my Metal king squat suit, perfect.[/quote]
weddings, funerals etc. I feel your pain!
My federation president seems to think that this will blow over and an agreement will be made, I just hope it’s soon and the matter is decided one way or another. There are a lot of lifters getting ready for spring meets and making new gear purchases.
The Metal dealer I ordered my suit from has yet to respond to my e-mails and that makes me a bit nervous. I’d rather get a centurion and know that I’ll be able to use it more than once.
If there was another fed that was single ply or raw in Canada with a presence on the east coast, I’d drop the IPF affiliate fed I am in. They are not thinking of the lifters at all with this money grab and maybe should start looking outside the manufacturers of gear for sponsorship money if they are that tight.
[quote]dianab wrote:
My federation president seems to think that this will blow over and an agreement will be made, I just hope it’s soon and the matter is decided one way or another. There are a lot of lifters getting ready for spring meets and making new gear purchases.
The Metal dealer I ordered my suit from has yet to respond to my e-mails and that makes me a bit nervous. I’d rather get a centurion and know that I’ll be able to use it more
than once.
If there was another fed that was single ply or raw in Canada with a presence on the east coast, I’d drop the IPF affiliate fed I am in. They are not thinking of the lifters at all with this money grab and maybe should start looking outside the manufacturers of gear for sponsorship money if they are that tight.[/quote]
Very, very interesting! If there is an agreement struck then I will have a shit load of legal gear, woohoo!
[quote]dianab wrote:
If there was another fed that was single ply or raw in Canada with a presence on the east coast, I’d drop the IPF affiliate fed I am in.[/quote]
I know!
I’m in Nova Scotia, and the cpu is the only option out here, too. Fuck.
[quote]mrodock wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Any comment from the manufacturers?
Isn’t the IPF the same fed that doesn’t allow the use of a false grip on the bench press?
If so, fuck them… And the horse they rode in on.
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Ano Turtianen of Metal said they offered the IPF money, but they are unwilling to take it. I translate that as he offered the same amount of money they paid last year. Rickey Dale Crain had said back in September that he has supported the IPF for over 40 years and that they are requiring a ridiculous licensing fee and he refuses to pay it. I have not read anything from APT to date.
Yep, that’s the organization alright, haha.
edit: just noticed that aut-x-rs included a quotation.[/quote]
Here’s what Ano wrote:
“METAL has offered money for IPF, but they are not yet able to give as written contract concerning the co-operating. Is the IPF so rich, that they do not want money for the contract or are they going to cheat??”
At first I too assumed that he’d just offered the same ammount as last year, but I’m not so sure anymore. Might just be that before he pays he wants to work out a written contract that ensures they don’t do something silly like doubling the fee again like last year. If that’s the case then they might come to an agreement eventually after all.
I don’t compete but I still certainly hope this issue gets worked out, the loss of those brands will hurt the lifters no doubt. It seems very greedy and inconsiderate by IPF, they’re not thinking of the lifters at all. And it’s not just the gear either, there’s also racks etc that will no longer be competition approved. How many clubs will be unable to host competitions because of this?
[quote]Matsa wrote:
Here’s what Ano wrote:
“METAL has offered money for IPF, but they are not yet able to give as written contract concerning the co-operating. Is the IPF so rich, that they do not want money for the contract or are they going to cheat??”
At first I too assumed that he’d just offered the same ammount as last year, but I’m not so sure anymore. Might just be that before he pays he wants to work out a written contract that ensures they don’t do something silly like doubling the fee again like last year. If that’s the case then they might come to an agreement eventually after all.
I don’t compete but I still certainly hope this issue gets worked out, the loss of those brands will hurt the lifters no doubt. It seems very greedy and inconsiderate by IPF, they’re not thinking of the lifters at all. And it’s not just the gear either, there’s also racks etc that will no longer be competition approved. How many clubs will be unable to host competitions because of this?[/quote]
A bunch of really good points made
Gear lifting is big business, and not much else but business.
its all about the money. that really stinks for the lifter. the gear manufatuerers are just going to pass the price increase along to their customers. i am sure it won;t be the last increase if the organization sees that it can make more money by extorting the equipment manufactuerers.
Its not like the organization really has to do anything other than collect the money. There is no testing of the equipment or anything.
i still am holding out hope for more raw lifting.
A guy on a swedish forum emailed the IPF, here’s their reply:
"Dear Mr. ********!
The reason was, that they did not pay the outstanding approval fees!
Metal normaly had to pay the fee for the racks for 2009 latest at 31st of
January 2009 ( as written in a valid and signed contract) but they payed it
last week (one year later) and for 2010 they did not pay the fees for the
racks and also not for the supportive equipment (shirts, suits, wraps)
The same problem was with APT
The other manufacturers payed all fees in time and it would be unfair if one
ore two companies can pay later or maybe not.
But we are in negotiations with Metal and also with APT and hopefully we
will find a solution until Monday!
About your concerning about the “poor” manufacturers and that they can not
afford the fees: These companies are earning thousends and thousends euros
and some of them
Millions of euros with powerlifting equipment and also with the lifters in
the IPF. You can belive me, that I know, that these fees are not to high for
them!
Best regards,
Emanuel SCHEIBER
Secretary General IPF"
[quote]mrodock wrote:
I’m not happy with the IPF, APT, or Metal. As for Crain, not even sure what they sell.
All that being said, I had already ordered two new Titan squat suits after I got two huge runs in my Metal King after about 10 times in it. I can just look at the Titan Super Centurion and tell it is a hell of a lot better suit than the Metal King V-type.[/quote]
Crain sells gear that is uh… wishful thinking. I touched 135 lbs in a double-ply ultra super mega mondo something shirt.
And since you mentioned Titan…
Ken Anderson is a helluva guy and Titan shirts just feel “right”. I can’t really speak for their squat and DL suits… for obvious reasons.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
There is NASA, and AAU is starting up in Colorado. I really like being able to lift at the international level with the IPF, but this just feels sleazy.[/quote]
Don’t forget about the WABDL. Yes, they catch some flack for not squatting, but he world championships is a blast. There are a lot of national lifters and teams from around the world.
From the CPU forum, and a reliable person with much involvement in the CPU:
“I got an email this weekend from APT ensuring me not to worry that APT is going to pay the fee and they will be on the IPF approved list.”
The saga continues. The dealer who I ordered my suit from seems to think it’s just a licensing fee issue. Keeping my eye on this.
[quote]dianab wrote:
From the CPU forum, and a reliable person with much involvement in the CPU:
“I got an email this weekend from APT ensuring me not to worry that APT is going to pay the fee and they will be on the IPF approved list.”
The saga continues. The dealer who I ordered my suit from seems to think it’s just a licensing fee issue. Keeping my eye on this.[/quote]
I saw that earlier today, too. Things are starting to look a little better in this situation.
Hopefully it all gets sorted out soon.
[quote]4est wrote:
Crain sells gear that is uh… wishful thinking. I touched 135 lbs in a double-ply ultra super mega mondo something shirt.
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That is pretty darn hilarious
Thank God for the SPF
Another reason to support the APF/WPC
[quote]4est wrote:
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
There is NASA, and AAU is starting up in Colorado. I really like being able to lift at the international level with the IPF, but this just feels sleazy.[/quote]
Don’t forget about the WABDL. Yes, they catch some flack for not squatting, but he world championships is a blast. There are a lot of national lifters and teams from around the world.[/quote]
But the only thing I’m GOOD at is squatting!
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
But the only thing I’m GOOD at is squatting![/quote]
Lol if that was the case, why would you put you benching as your main avatar then? I’m quite sure you total more than half the people here who post.
[quote]ALKoHoLiK wrote:
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
But the only thing I’m GOOD at is squatting![/quote]
Lol if that was the case, why would you put you benching as your main avatar then? I’m quite sure you total more than half the people here who post.[/quote]
Squat face is not very pretty, and she likes to show off her chest muscles.
Apparently Metal has reached a deal with the IPF?
Anyone got info?