Inmate Fitness

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…
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I would believe you. In general, I find most Bens to be very trustworthy: Ben Franklin, Ben Stein, Ben Gay, and Gentle Ben just to name a few. One exception I would note is a guy named Ben Ghazi. I don’t know who he is, but I remember his name being mentioned in the news a lot and being tied to scandals and cover-ups.

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…
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I would believe you. In general, I find most Bens to be very trustworthy: Ben Franklin, Ben Stein, Ben Gay, and Gentle Ben just to name a few. One exception I would note is a guy named Ben Ghazi. I don’t know who he is, but I remember his name being mentioned in the news a lot and being tied to scandals and cover-ups.
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You forgot Ben Rice, the most trustworthy Ben there ever was.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…
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I would believe you. In general, I find most Bens to be very trustworthy: Ben Franklin, Ben Stein, Ben Gay, and Gentle Ben just to name a few. One exception I would note is a guy named Ben Ghazi. I don’t know who he is, but I remember his name being mentioned in the news a lot and being tied to scandals and cover-ups.
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You forgot Ben Rice, the most trustworthy Ben there ever was.[/quote]

I think you meant Uncle Ben, who makes rice. If that’s the case, then yes he would definitely be included.

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…

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Are you being serious here? No one could look at a physique like this and think, “damn, that guy can probably move some serious weight”? Rubish is a monster, and he looks like it too.

Google image ‘pete rubish’, plenty of impressive pics out there. His back is just stupid. I don’t really understand where you’re coming from here.[/quote]

I know who he is, and if you didn’t know who he was and I posted that picture… no way anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding would look at those quads and think he could squat 500x15. His pound for pound strength is insane, and you would have to see it to believe it.

Edit: The point is, there are people who can move tons of weight for reps who don’t look the part, and by that same token there are people who can build tons of muscle with way less drugs than you would assume.
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I guess I’m too immersed in the powerlifting world to think like this, because I’ve seen so many ridiculous weightlifting accomplishments. Some of the Eric Spoto videos out there are just insane. He makes a 500 lb bench look like he’s moving fake plates, so I get where you’re coming from. I’ve been aware of Rubish for quite some time, so that probably clouds my judgement.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…

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Are you being serious here? No one could look at a physique like this and think, “damn, that guy can probably move some serious weight”? Rubish is a monster, and he looks like it too.

Google image ‘pete rubish’, plenty of impressive pics out there. His back is just stupid. I don’t really understand where you’re coming from here.[/quote]

I know who he is, and if you didn’t know who he was and I posted that picture… no way anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding would look at those quads and think he could squat 500x15. His pound for pound strength is insane, and you would have to see it to believe it.

Edit: The point is, there are people who can move tons of weight for reps who don’t look the part, and by that same token there are people who can build tons of muscle with way less drugs than you would assume.
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I guess I’m too immersed in the powerlifting world to think like this, because I’ve seen so many ridiculous weightlifting accomplishments. Some of the Eric Spoto videos out there are just insane. He makes a 500 lb bench look like he’s moving fake plates, so I get where you’re coming from. I’ve been aware of Rubish for quite some time, so that probably clouds my judgement.[/quote]

Eric Spoto is an ENORMOUS man though, lol. You’d sort of expect him to be able to move some weight. And I’m pretty sure he could outbench me natural, no matter how many drugs I was on or how many years I train. Life is just unfair like that.

I have no problem looking at someone like Rubish and thinking he can move a ton of weight for a single or triple, but 15 reps, goddamn that’s something else entirely.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
****4. Before and after prison photos would be INFINITELY more interesting than just random pictures that were taken at some point during a prison stay. That would give us something to talk about. Even just a few would be worthwhile. I would love to see photos of a guy come out of an extended prison sentence significantly more muscular than when he went in.[/quote]
It’s definitely an interesting topic, but obviously one that’s hard to investigate accurately.

I found this one guy’s “blog” (it’s really just one post). The before/after pics are from a 4 month stint in prison. In his own words:
“Prior to heading in, I had been using Wendler’s 5/3/1 program for about 1.5 years. Prior to that I had been doing Crossfit for about 2 years, and prior to that I was following the workouts in the book The New Rules of Lifting for about 6 months.”

“[In prison] I only had access to a pullup bar, back extension station, dip station, and ab wheel, so all of my workouts were bodyweight. I have read Convict conditioning and did a lot of research into good bodyweight workouts before going in. In addition to the workouts, I got up at 5am everyday to do 1 hour of yoga next to my bunk, 20 minutes of tai chi, 20 minutes of pranayama breathing exercises, and 30 minutes of meditation. I would make an effort to walk for at least an hour per day …”

His training week was:
“Day 1 - Upper Body
Day 2 - Lower Body + 5x40 Burpees (burpees done in a separate workout - usually first thing in the morning then the lower body workout done later in the day)
Day 3 - Abs / Lower Back + 5x40 Burpees (burpees done first thing in AM, other workout later)
Day 4 - Upper Body
Day 5 - Lower Body + 5x40 Burpees
Day 6 - Abs /Lower Back + 5x40 Burpees
Day 7 - Rest”

He details what he did each session, including handstand push-ups for sets of 10-12, working up to one-arm push-ups for sets of 20, and working up to pistols for sets of 12. A quick Google of any random sentence here should bring up his blog. (No links here).

After getting out, he wrote: “I’ve been in the gym for about a week, re-testing my max lifts. My squat went from 475 → ~435, deadlift 525 → 475, OHP 195 → 185, and did not test bench. I’ve very pleased with these numbers, as I’ve been able to maintain significant strength. Also considering I’ve lost about 20 lbs, I’m pound for pound as strong, if not stronger than before.”

Nutrition-wise, he said he had previous success with a form of intermittent fasting, so he tried to stick with that by simply skipping breakfast.

“Fortunately I had access to commissary, and with a $75 per week spending limit, I loaded up on tuna (25 g protein), mackeral (18 g protein), protein shake packets (238 calories, 44 protein, 22 carb), oatmeal, and beef crumbles (275 calories, 38 g protein). I would take a few packets of meat with me to each meal in order to add protein. So for example at lunch I would add 2 packets of tuna to the “slop”, and eat only one cup of the carbs.”

Obviously this is just one dude and he was incarcerated for a fairly short time, but it’s something.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Lanfair wrote:
A common trick played on new guys is daring them to take a pack of cards, squat down and set a card on the ground, stand up, squat and set another on the ground, so forth and so on until the entire deck is laid out, then squat and pick them all up. One guy did this and woke up the next morning with his legs so swollen they had to cut his state issued khakis off his legs.[/quote]

Do I believe this is something that’s done in prison? Sure, sounds about right. Do you really expect 100 deep body weight squats to turn someone into the Hulk? Give me a fucking break. That’s the some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read on this site.[/quote]

When you said 100 deep bodyweight squats, I realized I explained that wrong, you squat once each for every previous card and then once for the new card, so by the time you lay the 52nd card down, you’re squatting 52 times to lay that once card. And then you do it all the way in reverse as you pick them back up. Take an untrained person and have him do that many deep bodyweight squats and see how much trouble he has climbing down from his bunk the next day. That’s why they do it as a trick to new guys, bodyweight squats seem super easy to a macho guy trying to show how tough he is, but down consecutively for an insane amount like that (I’m not even going to waste the time to do the math), that shit is going to cause some serious swelling that day.

That being said, I didn’t claim THAT was what turned these guys into monsters. In fact, I didn’t claim anything about how big guys get in prisons with no weights, just shared my experience of what I saw guys improvise while I was in jail. I was talking about the big, strong guys I was in prison with, where there lots of weights and squat racks.

There was no need to be inflammatory in your reply, the misunderstanding was due to your lack of reading comprehension.

There is an old video series that I’m sure can be found on the web that the Ruff Ryders record label put out a long time ago focusing on prison yard and playground workouts. It showed all the different bodyweight stuff they did. You can definitely get ripped and add size that way. Work out on the jungle gym for four years then walk in and bench press 400 lbs? Prob not, but you can still get a pretty good physique. Consider the recent studies that show that training with a light weight for 30 reps to failure produced similar mass gains to training with a weight for 8 reps. Or look at the light weight/pump style training Serge Nubret used to do…

But my experience was where there were weights and guys spent several hours a day working out in several sessions doing heavy compound exercises.

Also, in regards to the guy who saw somebody get fucked up while inclining 315, I have a similar story. I didn’t see it but my good friend did when he was at a different prison before they shipped to where I was. A guy was in the middle of benching when another guy walked up with a 100 lb dumbbell and smashed it right on his face. He said the guy’s skull popped like a watermelon.

[quote]Lanfair wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Lanfair wrote:
A common trick played on new guys is daring them to take a pack of cards, squat down and set a card on the ground, stand up, squat and set another on the ground, so forth and so on until the entire deck is laid out, then squat and pick them all up. One guy did this and woke up the next morning with his legs so swollen they had to cut his state issued khakis off his legs.[/quote]

Do I believe this is something that’s done in prison? Sure, sounds about right. Do you really expect 100 deep body weight squats to turn someone into the Hulk? Give me a fucking break. That’s the some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read on this site.[/quote]

When you said 100 deep bodyweight squats, I realized I explained that wrong, you squat once each for every previous card and then once for the new card, so by the time you lay the 52nd card down, you’re squatting 52 times to lay that once card. And then you do it all the way in reverse as you pick them back up. Take an untrained person and have him do that many deep bodyweight squats and see how much trouble he has climbing down from his bunk the next day. That’s why they do it as a trick to new guys, bodyweight squats seem super easy to a macho guy trying to show how tough he is, but down consecutively for an insane amount like that (I’m not even going to waste the time to do the math), that shit is going to cause some serious swelling that day.

That being said, I didn’t claim THAT was what turned these guys into monsters. In fact, I didn’t claim anything about how big guys get in prisons with no weights, just shared my experience of what I saw guys improvise while I was in jail. I was talking about the big, strong guys I was in prison with, where there lots of weights and squat racks.

There was no need to be inflammatory in your reply, the misunderstanding was due to your lack of reading comprehension.
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The ‘Hulk’ reference was referring to the pants ripping, not the guys turning into monsters. I guess that wasn’t clear.

So now you’re telling me untrained guys are doing 2,756 bodyweight squats? That’s more ridiculous than how I interpreted your statement originally. Come on man, think about this stuff.

[quote]Lanfair wrote:
There is an old video series that I’m sure can be found on the web that the Ruff Ryders record label put out a long time ago focusing on prison yard and playground workouts. It showed all the different bodyweight stuff they did. [/quote]

New Vid

Nobody finishes the whole deck of cards, that’s why they bet new guys too stupid to know better. They’ll bet them cigarettes or something that they can’t do it, and every once in a while some dumbass will be dumb enough to take the bait.

I dunno why you’re so determined to make it seem like I’m lying. Wtf would be the point? Impress strangers on the internet for cool points?

This is why I usually only lurk on these forums. You all spend more time arguing about dumb shit than any other board I get on.

[quote]Lanfair wrote:
Nobody finishes the whole deck of cards, that’s why they bet new guys too stupid to know better. They’ll bet them cigarettes or something that they can’t do it, and every once in a while some dumbass will be dumb enough to take the bait.

I dunno why you’re so determined to make it seem like I’m lying. Wtf would be the point? Impress strangers on the internet for cool points?

This is why I usually only lurk on these forums. You all spend more time arguing about dumb shit than any other board I get on. [/quote]

I would appreciate it if you didn’t stop posting because of that.

That attitude is what keeps anyone with a differing point of view than the masses from posting.

[quote]Lanfair wrote:
Nobody finishes the whole deck of cards, that’s why they bet new guys too stupid to know better. They’ll bet them cigarettes or something that they can’t do it, and every once in a while some dumbass will be dumb enough to take the bait.

I dunno why you’re so determined to make it seem like I’m lying. Wtf would be the point? Impress strangers on the internet for cool points?

This is why I usually only lurk on these forums. You all spend more time arguing about dumb shit than any other board I get on. [/quote]

Honestly? The first thing you posted was ridiculous. I didn’t misread it. Go back and read what you wrote and see if anyone would have interpreted it the way you meant it. But you decided to come back at me and tell me I had a reading comprehension problem. That’s why I came right back at you. It wasn’t until this post that you even mentioned that people don’t finish it.

I’m not calling you a liar, I’m saying that what you were posting made no sense. If you can’t translate information from your head into coherent wording, then that’s a you problem. I still don’t believe someone had to have their pants cut off because their legs were so swollen, but I’m not gonna hold that against you because you didn’t say you actually saw it.

As far as the way you have now explained it - that makes sense. It’s akin to the gallon of milk challenge, tablespoon of cinnamon, whatever. Something that sounds easy/do-able that really isn’t. That’s fine. I honestly don’t even think you need to throw in the part about having to go back down from 52. Nobody’s making it past the first 1400 squats, lol.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That attitude is what keeps anyone with a differing point of view than the masses from posting.[/quote]

The irony here is precious…we had good, productive and supportive threads before you thundered back in here.

It’s amazing to me that you cannot see it’s you.

lol @ everyone who said they got like that because their environment is more hostile. thats funny as hell.

why don’t we see brolic and shredded mexicans like the black people in prison? its genetics with a little bit of “help” .

and if you ask why the people in bad neighborhoods are shredded and muscular when they workout , well again most people in the ghettos of American are black .

also for those posting the videos of the guys working out in the park with the bars , notice that most of them are black. on top of that you are a fool if you think they dont hit the gym as well.

a lot of these guys do bar competitions and they go to the gym as well to do accesory work to help them at the competition. i follow a lot of these guys on my instagram and a lot of them juice as well.

[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
also for those posting the videos of the guys working out in the park with the bars , notice that most of them are black. on top of that you are a fool if you think they don’t hit the gym as well.

a lot of these guys do bar competitions and they go to the gym as well to do accessory work to help them at the competition. i follow a lot of these guys on my instagram and a lot of them juice as well.
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Bro, prepare yourself for the “duurrrrr if you can’t see the needle going in how do you know for sure huuurrrr durrrrrr” quotes.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Here’s something for you all to consider though, in the middle of this internet penis waving you all are so inexplicably fond of. If this guy in the video was my training partner or brother or whatever, and didn’t have any youtube videos… and, stay with me here… I posted a picture of him on this forum saying: “this is my bro, he squats 500x15, beltless, ass to grass.”

Is there a chance in hell anyone would believe me? No? There are more freaks of nature out there than you know, on drugs or not…
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I would believe you. In general, I find most Bens to be very trustworthy: Ben Franklin, Ben Stein, Ben Gay, and Gentle Ben just to name a few. One exception I would note is a guy named Ben Ghazi. I don’t know who he is, but I remember his name being mentioned in the news a lot and being tied to scandals and cover-ups.
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You forgot Ben Rice, the most trustworthy Ben there ever was.[/quote]
Bin Rahs. Bin Rahs, man.

[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
i follow a lot of these guys on my instagram and a lot of them juice as well.
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you follow a lot of black guys on instagram? interesting.

I thought about making a joke about the ‘bar competitions’… I’ll leave that to someone else.