I started working out seriously about a month ago. During the first two weeks I really went nuts when I did shrugs, until one day I felt this horrible spasm/twinging in my left trap. I put down the dumbell and the pain went away, but since then whenever I try and shrug any serious weight, I feel the same twinge of pain. I guess it can be described as if there’s a loose electric wire in my left trapezius muscle. I’m not sure if this is a tear or what…anyone experience anything similar or have any ideas what may be going on? what I should do?
[quote]pete h. wrote:
I started working out seriously about a month ago. During the first two weeks I really went nuts when I did shrugs, until one day I felt this horrible spasm/twinging in my left trap. I put down the dumbell and the pain went away, but since then whenever I try and shrug any serious weight, I feel the same twinge of pain. I guess it can be described as if there’s a loose electric wire in my left trapezius muscle. I’m not sure if this is a tear or what…anyone experience anything similar or have any ideas what may be going on? what I should do?[/quote]
go to the doctor, sounds like your torn your traps muscle. It’s definitely more than a spasm
Sounds like you have nothing wrong with you but a little imbalance, maybe residual scar tissue from an injruy. Did you ever disocate your shoulder or suffer any memorable falls or other injuries? Very rarely does a muscle actually tear in the process of weightlifting.
Maybe you should be patient from now on, stop shrugging with your current weights, and work on ROM of your shoulders. If you tore a trap, you have managed to hurt yourself more in 2 weeks than most pro athletes do in a career. Try chess? See a doc if you want. But docs don’t make you a more intelligent trainer
[quote]Kanada wrote:
Very rarely does a muscle actually tear in the process of weightlifting.
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I completely disagree, Train wrong and you can tear up muscles really eassily. How many times have you heard a bodybuilder had to stop competing due to torn muscles? examples: doria yates, ronnie coleman (although I don’t think he tore a muscle, can’t remember what was wrong with him)
However in a way you’re correct because usually biceps muscles, and front deltoids are most in the danger of getting torn, I have not heard that many times for trap muscles.
p.s. don’t risk training till you see a doctor and make sure there is nothing wrong with u. it’s better not to train for one week rather than not training for a longer period
p.s. don’t risk training till you see a doctor and make sure there is nothing wrong with u. it’s better not to train for one week rather than not training for a longer period
Shit is 9 years old…
Doria Yates.
lol
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
Shit is 9 years old…[/quote]
haha very god point. Thank you for mentioning! I am kinda new to the forum so I assumd everything in the first page of the steroids forum means that its “new” post, so I didn’t even bother to look at the date. But i guess from now on I will
LOL @ Bodybuilding = Steroids
Edit: …and mad more LOL @ Doria Yates
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
LOL @ Bodybuilding = Steroids
Edit: …and mad more LOL @ Doria Yates[/quote]
u’re a fucking retard and I am not even gonna bother explain why
[quote]Kanada wrote:
Sounds like you have nothing wrong with you but a little imbalance, maybe residual scar tissue from an injruy. Did you ever disocate your shoulder or suffer any memorable falls or other injuries? Very rarely does a muscle actually tear in the process of weightlifting.
Maybe you should be patient from now on, stop shrugging with your current weights, and work on ROM of your shoulders. If you tore a trap, you have managed to hurt yourself more in 2 weeks than most pro athletes do in a career. Try chess? See a doc if you want. But docs don’t make you a more intelligent trainer[/quote]
I know this thread is old and all so it doesn’t really matter but this was terrible advice. First off, it sounds like the guy did something along the lines of pinching a nerve in his neck. Not ‘nothing wrong but a little imbalance’. Telling a guy he’s not really injured when you actually have no idea is not something you should do. Also, people tear muscles often in the process of weightlifting. Dave Tate has probably torn 12 muscles in his weightlifting career. So telling a guy that muscles rarely tear in weightlifting, and that if he tore one right off the bat he should just quit, is also awful.
So, what I’m saying is, learn more, but more importantly, don’t give people advice on what to do about their injuries until you do.
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]Kanada wrote:
Sounds like you have nothing wrong with you but a little imbalance, maybe residual scar tissue from an injruy. Did you ever disocate your shoulder or suffer any memorable falls or other injuries? Very rarely does a muscle actually tear in the process of weightlifting.
Maybe you should be patient from now on, stop shrugging with your current weights, and work on ROM of your shoulders. If you tore a trap, you have managed to hurt yourself more in 2 weeks than most pro athletes do in a career. Try chess? See a doc if you want. But docs don’t make you a more intelligent trainer[/quote]
I know this thread is old and all so it doesn’t really matter but this was terrible advice. First off, it sounds like the guy did something along the lines of pinching a nerve in his neck. Not ‘nothing wrong but a little imbalance’. Telling a guy he’s not really injured when you actually have no idea is not something you should do. Also, people tear muscles often in the process of weightlifting. Dave Tate has probably torn 12 muscles in his weightlifting career. So telling a guy that muscles rarely tear in weightlifting, and that if he tore one right off the bat he should just quit, is also awful.
So, what I’m saying is, learn more, but more importantly, don’t give people advice on what to do about their injuries until you do.[/quote]
So we are clear, I had no idea this thread was 7 years old at the time of posting. Nor of the time of thinking of my response to these points.
First off, on the points regarding Dave Tate, Dorian Yates; they are more chemically enhanced than the average, though to what extent I will not speculate. When a pro bodybuilder tears a muscle, it is because they operate under enhanced guidelines. I am not aiming to denigrate their accomplishments, just that the average trainee cannot fathom the stressors the musculature, theirs in extreme, can endure.
Second point, everyone should have a doctor who you are completely 100% involved with. You do not rely on your doctor to diagnose you when you are sick, you must give your doctor a body of work with which to draw upon. I won’t go so far as to say get a full body cat scan, but this doctor should either be very well educated in the physiological nuances of the body, both textually and kinetically. Meaning they need to know medical textbook latin, but they also must understand how to feel a patient and be as talented as BBB seems to be. No joke, every doc should have to become a very skilled chiropractor.
Third point, I’ve had injuries where “I could not walk without a sharp pain through my groin” but sometimes life is too short to watch from the sidelines. You must understand as a trainee that you will begin to hurt more and more the longer you lift. The quicker you start learning when your going to get bit the better.
Fourth, Dorian Yates is a great example of both why it is retarded to push your body like that, and why its worth it. Kid everyone else is right though, if you existed today, you should see a doctor.
[quote]Kanada wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]Kanada wrote:
Sounds like you have nothing wrong with you but a little imbalance, maybe residual scar tissue from an injruy. Did you ever disocate your shoulder or suffer any memorable falls or other injuries? Very rarely does a muscle actually tear in the process of weightlifting.
Maybe you should be patient from now on, stop shrugging with your current weights, and work on ROM of your shoulders. If you tore a trap, you have managed to hurt yourself more in 2 weeks than most pro athletes do in a career. Try chess? See a doc if you want. But docs don’t make you a more intelligent trainer[/quote]
I know this thread is old and all so it doesn’t really matter but this was terrible advice. First off, it sounds like the guy did something along the lines of pinching a nerve in his neck. Not ‘nothing wrong but a little imbalance’. Telling a guy he’s not really injured when you actually have no idea is not something you should do. Also, people tear muscles often in the process of weightlifting. Dave Tate has probably torn 12 muscles in his weightlifting career. So telling a guy that muscles rarely tear in weightlifting, and that if he tore one right off the bat he should just quit, is also awful.
So, what I’m saying is, learn more, but more importantly, don’t give people advice on what to do about their injuries until you do.[/quote]
So we are clear, I had no idea this thread was 7 years old at the time of posting. Nor of the time of thinking of my response to these points.
First off, on the points regarding Dave Tate, Dorian Yates; they are more chemically enhanced than the average, though to what extent I will not speculate. When a pro bodybuilder tears a muscle, it is because they operate under enhanced guidelines. I am not aiming to denigrate their accomplishments, just that the average trainee cannot fathom the stressors the musculature, theirs in extreme, can endure.
Second point, everyone should have a doctor who you are completely 100% involved with. You do not rely on your doctor to diagnose you when you are sick, you must give your doctor a body of work with which to draw upon. I won’t go so far as to say get a full body cat scan, but this doctor should either be very well educated in the physiological nuances of the body, both textually and kinetically. Meaning they need to know medical textbook latin, but they also must understand how to feel a patient and be as talented as BBB seems to be. No joke, every doc should have to become a very skilled chiropractor.
Third point, I’ve had injuries where “I could not walk without a sharp pain through my groin” but sometimes life is too short to watch from the sidelines. You must understand as a trainee that you will begin to hurt more and more the longer you lift. The quicker you start learning when your going to get bit the better.
Fourth, Dorian Yates is a great example of both why it is retarded to push your body like that, and why its worth it. Kid everyone else is right though, if you existed today, you should see a doctor.[/quote]
As for the ‘but Dorian Yates and Dave Tate and those guys are on steroids’ argument, yes that is true, but plenty of unassisted trainees tear things too. The rest of your points I pretty much agree with, but that was my point: We on this forum really couldn’t tell exactly what was wrong with him, but it was something to go get checked out. Not something to tell the guy it just sounds like a muscular imbalance, and if he’s already injured himself he should just give up.
Same thing happened to me when doing SDLs…I stopped doing those for about a week, worked the shit out of the area with a Theracane, and when I got back to SDLs I backed off the weight a little bit.
No problem since
9 year old thread is 9 years old.
I get this all the time on the right side when DLing. Chiro said it’s from either A) Constantly hitting the traps with too much volume B) having chronically shortened upper traps and levator scapulae and get suddenly stretched (initial pull from the floor, rack pull, bottom of a shrug)
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]Kanada wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]Kanada wrote:
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I just don’t think you can tear a trap and not know. It is very easy to tweak your shoulder shrugging too much, but that isn’t a good reason to stop working out, and at some point I believe inciting a pain response is essential to properly healing from such an injury.
[quote]cnobari wrote:
[quote]pete h. wrote:
I started working out seriously about a month ago. During the first two weeks I really went nuts when I did shrugs, until one day I felt this horrible spasm/twinging in my left trap. I put down the dumbell and the pain went away, but since then whenever I try and shrug any serious weight, I feel the same twinge of pain. I guess it can be described as if there’s a loose electric wire in my left trapezius muscle. I’m not sure if this is a tear or what…anyone experience anything similar or have any ideas what may be going on? what I should do?[/quote]
go to the doctor, sounds like your torn your traps muscle. It’s definitely more than a spasm[/quote]
Do you have any idea how hard it would be to tear your traps doing shrugs? Especially someone who is new to lifting and is probably not doing that much weight? Seriously, any clue how shit works?