sorry i cant comment comment on soreness or redness i have never shot “but i will say tolona that was the best get fucked ive read in a long time”
gotta give him props on a graceful fuck you anyways
Point taken. I have experienced redness, warmth, even itches on occasion. This has happened with various injectables, but not always the same ones. Sometimes one brand will leave nothing, while the same substance from a different company may leave some sort of a reaction. Wouldn’t worry unless the problem persists more than a week, or becomes painful.
-M
[quote]tolona wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Where are all of you disrespectful fuckstains coming from?
The reason you are receiving feedback that you don’t like is because you are doing something moronic. I don’t care if your friend is Jay Cutler, he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about.
Cortes:
If you would simply have taken the time to read MY very first entry, you would realize that the reason I am dismissing critiques of my cycle is because of presumptuous assholes like you who can’t wait to download your vast knowledge of bodybuilding to the world when, in fact, no one has asked for your worthless opinion.
I will assume for argument’s sake, that you do not have experience with redness and/or warmth at an injection site using oil based AAS. Thank you.
Now, do both of us a favor and go find another thread where someone actually asks to be talked down to and belittled…
This is not that thread, Dipshit…[/quote]
Your avatar looks like an electric blue butthole.
Oops, I’m off topic again.
[quote]Contrl wrote:
Being a “competition level” BB does not parallel being knowledgeable in regards to AAS. In your case, being a pompous and spontaneous prick apparently doesn’t either. Believe it or not, my remark wasn’t meant to sound offensive, but have it your way.
Now, if he’s doing this at “much larger quantities”, ask him why he has you at this incredibly low level for “jumping off” ? I don’t know where he’s done his research, but I was unaware that androgen receptors and 19-nor compounds with incredibly long ester half-lives merited “jumping off” points. Must be some new mutation in the leydig cells I’m unaware of, because this is all Greek to me. But obviously the fact that he’s a “competition level” BB, and your hanky panky friend, equates to you kissing his ass and assuming he can do no wrong. Do what you want, either way you slice the pie your approach to this pseudo cycle is just what I said: A horrible idea. Your credulence only adds to it.
As to the redness and warmth, it’s a very natural reaction to foreign agents being introduced to the tissue, as you’ll have a flooding of RBCs rushed to the area for a few days (as you mentioned, about 5). This has the tendency to subside the more injections you take, as well as, naturally, the more cycles you run. But I’m sure your “competition level” BB friend told you this already, no?
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Dear Contrl:
Unfortunately, my friend is not at my beck and call and as I had already left a message to get input their into this apparent reaction, I decided to ask for…
OTHER OPINIONS…Another “horrible idea” I’m sure you would agree???
Now if you had seen fit to simply dispense with all of the superfluous judgment/erroneous assumption bullshit and tendered the very sound advice you included in your last paragraph, to wit:
“AS TO THE REDNESS AND WARMTH, IT’S A VERY NATURAL REACTION TO FOREIGN AGENTS BEING INTRODUCED TO THE TISSUE, AS YOU’LL HAVE A FLOODING OF RBC’S RUSHED TO THE AREA FOR A FEW DAYS (AS YOU MENTIONED, ABOUT 5). THIS HAS THE TENDENCY TO SUBSIDE THE MORE INJECTIONS YOU TAKE, AS WELL AS< NATURALLY, THE MORE CYCLES YOU RUN.”
…I would have taken no issue with you…
This specific information was what I was looking for and was HELPFUL and MEANINGFUL and NOT JUDGMENTAL. THANKS!
Tolona, it appears you have found your answer and that there is little more to be gained by further posting on this thread. I implore you to let this thread die.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
If you’re getting guidance on your cycle from a competition bodybuilder then why the fuck are you on a message board asking people for their “shit opinions”? Can’t you direct that question to the genius who has you shooting .25ml in different sites?
Fuck off, dickhead.[/quote]
Dear Inner Hulk…
You assume far too much my friend and, further, epitomize the stereotypical brainless drivel being spewed from muscleheads who apparently know it all and can’t seem to contain themselves when someone else who apparently doesn’t seem to know as much as you asks for opinion, advice or direction.
I know it’s a stretch, but, try to focus for a moment and understand that simply because you think it is right and correct, does not make it so.
You have done yourself no favors here and your inability to control your emotions speaks volumes about you…
[quote]mbaina wrote:
Point taken. I have experienced redness, warmth, even itches on occasion. This has happened with various injectables, but not always the same ones. Sometimes one brand will leave nothing, while the same substance from a different company may leave some sort of a reaction. Wouldn’t worry unless the problem persists more than a week, or becomes painful.
-M[/quote]
mbaina:
Thanks…I truly appreciate the input…The more I hear from those like you who have had similar reactions to injectables, the more I sense it is something my body will get used to… I have also experienced the “itching” you mentioned at about day 4, post-injection, jsut when the redness is disappearing… I can live with it, I was simply curious…
btw… As I seem to have breached etiquette by introducing a method of injecting that has been the genesis of so much vitriol and negativity, I am going to revisit this with my source as soon as I am able in order to determine if he has given me poor advice.
As I stated before, though, he is in phenomenal shape and I also seem to be gaining lean muscle at a frantic pace… I do not aspire to be a competitor like you (or others who seem to think that I do)…I just want to add some size and harden up… It seems to be working…
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Your avatar looks like an electric blue butthole.
Oops, I’m off topic again.[/quote]
Dear Cortes:
You continue to reveal the depth of your inanity, as well, your lack of self-control…
You would do better to read the posts of others who have seen fit to share their relevant experience in a courteous and respectful manner…
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Tolona, it appears you have found your answer and that there is little more to be gained by further posting on this thread. I implore you to let this thread die.[/quote]
2thepain:
I have not had any problem with the way you have treated me here. You have been polite and succinct. Thankfully, I have gleaned some very useful information from a few individuals here…
In all fairness though, your request to have this thread die should be properly addressed to those who are dispossessed of the wherewithal to focus on my actual question. I did not invite their invective, nor was it either helpful to me or this forum.
I haven’t pooped in almost 3 days. Can anybody recommend a tasty food with plenty of fiber?
Try some milled flax Contrl. It does wonders to keep me regular. I poop out things like IAAN on at least a twice daily basis.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Try some milled flax Contrl. It does wonders to keep me regular. I poop out things like IAAN on at least a twice daily basis.[/quote]
LillgGuy01:
Maybe you and Contrl should check out your mutual Exits together…
You know what they say… Two dicks are better than one…
[quote]Contrl wrote:
I haven’t pooped in almost 3 days. Can anybody recommend a tasty food with plenty of fiber?[/quote]
Hey Contrl:
Try some Dilaudid…It’ll really help…Be sure you have a big BP at the ready though…You may need it… 
[quote]tolona wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Your avatar looks like an electric blue butthole.
Oops, I’m off topic again.
Dear Cortes:
You continue to reveal the depth of your inanity, as well, your lack of self-control…
You would do better to read the posts of others who have seen fit to share their relevant experience in a courteous and respectful manner…
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The only one showing a lack of self-control is you, buddy. We are baiting you, and you are so obviously in love with the mellifluous resonance of the components of your venerably superior monologues that you fail to even notice when someone is taking the piss out of you.
Oh, and I guess I must have gotten to you with the anus comment, because I notice you have a new avatar. No need to thank me. I’m sure you have an excuse ready as to why you changed both that and your screen name.
IAAN or whatever you are, the reason a lot of us on this board pay no respect to drivel like you is primarily because you are not nearly so special or unique as you obviously assume yourself to be. Certainly not superior. Truth is, guys like you come in here all the time, like a skinny white boy on his first day in prison. All attitude. Ready to show the rest of us he can hang.
If little wet penis noodles like yourself actually hung around for more than a few days, we might not be this way. But you’ll be like all the rest. This will be about the last we’ll ever hear from you. But not, of course, before you first fire off one more scathing, pithy retort to this post.
Godspeed your fiery fingers, you uppity weasel.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Try some milled flax Contrl. It does wonders to keep me regular. I poop out things like IAAN on at least a twice daily basis.[/quote]
I don’t know, this entire thread has done wonders for my bowels.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
The only one showing a lack of self-control is you, buddy. We are baiting you, and you are so obviously in love with the mellifluous resonance of the components of your venerably superior monologues that you fail to even notice when someone is taking the piss out of you.
Oh, and I guess I must have gotten to you with the anus comment, because I notice you have a new avatar. No need to thank me. I’m sure you have an excuse ready as to why you changed both that and your screen name.
IAAN or whatever you are, the reason a lot of us on this board pay no respect to drivel like you is primarily because you are not nearly so special or unique as you obviously assume yourself to be. Certainly not superior. Truth is, guys like you come in here all the time, like a skinny white boy on his first day in prison. All attitude. Ready to show the rest of us he can hang.
If little wet penis noodles like yourself actually hung around for more than a few days, we might not be this way. But you’ll be like all the rest. This will be about the last we’ll ever hear from you. But not, of course, before you first fire off one more scathing, pithy retort to this post.
Godspeed your fiery fingers, you uppity weasel.[/quote]
Dear Cortes:
I hate to rain on your pathetic little self-indulgent parade, but I’m not going anywhere. I have every intention of continuing to seek answers to my questions, guidance and direction from individuals on this site who, unlike you, are courteous, respectful and lack your aimless, driving need to set others straight without the benefit of any depth of knowledge as to their particular situation, coupled with no desire to gain such.
It is my hope that you will find as you grow up and decide what kind of person you want to be (which from the sound of it may take you a while), that people of your ilk won’t ever make a positive dent in the human experience simply because you are much too inwardly-focused.
Next time, try (1) actually reading the question posed by the threader, then (2) make an attempt to reflect on it for longer than a few seconds before you (3) engage in your apparent modus operandi of bashing and flaming…
If you really, truly, make a good-faith effort to do this, you might even find that you DO have something positive to say to others as a matter of first impression.
I know you can do it… I’m pulling for you, bakayaro!!!
[quote]Cortes wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
Try some milled flax Contrl. It does wonders to keep me regular. I poop out things like IAAN on at least a twice daily basis.
I don’t know, this entire thread has done wonders for my bowels.[/quote]
Oh btw Cortes:
I know something that will help your bowels even more so than this thread…
Take LillGuy001’s 2-inch deca-pecker out of there. Now, THAT will do wonders.!!!
Have a great day buddy!
Knew you couldn’t keep yourself from replying, chinkasu-me 
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Knew you couldn’t keep yourself from replying, chinkasu-me
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Mondai nai ne. Omae wa atama ga tottemo warui dakara, ore wa itsudemo Cortes ni tasukete kure ne!
Douzo, Cortes…Ganbatte ne! Omae wa aho da kendo, seikatsu wa taihen des,n ga…! Zannen
Ja mata wani!
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Knew you couldn’t keep yourself from replying, chinkasu-me
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I’m really dissapointed in you Cortes… I was really enjoying our witty repartee…
I suppose though that you couldn’t do another brainless Google search for a passage of actual Japanese…
I’ll forgive you this time…
Maybe on your way home from flipping burgers at McDonalds this afternoon, you could pick up a Rosetta Stone?